Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[FlubberPuddy]

If it was a request, then it would have concluded a long time ago, but it became some kind of fucked up cause that bled tears. That does not sound like people who are not expecting something.

And it's ironic you have so much understanding for the poor Helf crowd but not for the guys they would piss off.

So let's stop pretending, it's whining, it has been for a long time. If it makes someone uncomfortable cause it's being called what it is, then maybe they should stop for a second and AT LEAST reconsider their methods, cause coming to accept reality seems to be far beyond these people.

Anyway, Blizzard was clear, no Helfs. You may expect the Silver Covenant to become the Void Covenant and there's no "reward" for it. No smooth, untainted Belf skin.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable, just seems silly as hell to crusade against people asking for something and wanting it to stop. Especially when it has no bearing on your already playable characters.

Antis are whining just as much as pro-helfers, but being pissed off at someone having access to a similar thing as you, yeah that's utterly stupid. I wonder if some of these people get upset over someone ordering the same or similar burgers as them.

[Evilfish]

It doesn't make me uncomfortable, just seems silly as hell to crusade against people asking for something and wanting it to stop. Especially when it has no bearing on your already playable characters.

Antis are whining just as much as pro-helfers, but being pissed off at someone having access to a similar thing as you, yeah that's utterly stupid. I wonder if some of these people get upset over someone ordering the same or similar burgers as them.

You think this is a crusade? It's not. I'm just pointing out the obvious. A shameful, uncomfortable fact... for some.

Oh and you can play belfs if you own an active WoW account. There's nothing preventing you from rolling one, so these so called victims of circumstance do have access to Belfs, just not EXACTLY how they want it. So FFS stop with the analogies. You are shooting blanks.

[Time Sage]

Yeah! The black hair looks great on the NPC's we have seen it it is really a shame we don't have it, tho I do think the darker hair colors are very close to dark in value, even tho they are not in hue.

TBH, it's kinda silly that hair colors for all races are so limited, we literally go to the hairdresser to dye our hair of different colors, but we can't choose anything outside the natural coloring? lol

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Unless you somehow have the power to make people stop caring about High Elves, what are you even trying to accomplish here? Like seriously, the whining for High Elves is not gonna stop so no need to add your own insufferable whining.

Just as people that want HE have no power to make it happen, you have no power to make people not want them anymore. So do what's actually best for you and move on man.

S'not the first time NPCs have hair colors we can't get. The goblins at the Darkmoon Faire have purple hair. Players can't pick purple. (Unless they're a DK that is. The NPCs are not DKs)

[FlubberPuddy]

You think this is a crusade? It's not. I'm just pointing out the obvious. A shameful, uncomfortable fact... for some.

Oh and you can play belfs if you own an active WoW account. There's nothing preventing you from rolling one, so these so called victims of circumstance do have access to Belfs, just not EXACTLY how they want it. So FFS stop with the analogies. You are shooting blanks.

I call it a crusade if someone has to consistently repeat the same things over and over, which is what you've been doing since you posted in the thread. No one is calling anyone here victims but you, no one's been saying it's uncomfortable to hear but you, suffice it to say I think you're the one taking more issues with the subject than the many others you seem to be talking about.

[Andromedes]

It's like... can you guys stop making up these moronic stories in your heads to justify something that is not near reasonable neither justifiable.

Call it for what it is - whining, there's only been whining, there have been no compromises, no understandings... nothing. Just a long fucking whine since BC to this point. That is not reasonable and it's not justifiable. Just a cryfest that has gone on for so long that some people got the wrong idea that they are owed something for simply fucking whining a lot. Get over yourselves.

Yeah right. ''since BC''... I bet you are one of those who think that high elf fans want high elves just because the horde got blood elves in BC. Also you are overly fixed to words ''whining'', ''crying'' .. It just looks you are insecure and in need to be above those, who demand something.

[Axaion]

So, in this image, we see Sylvanas, Saurfang, Nathanos... And a dying elf. Presumably Vareesa.

If it is Vareesa, doesn't it make sense that Alleria would join and take over the Silver Covenant, leading them to the Void? They would establish themselves as anti-blood elves, their own race, and we'd finally hear the end of all of this playable high elf stuff. It'd end the conversation, there are no more high elves, they all joined the Horde or Alliance as Blood or Void elves.

I doubt she would "lead" them to the void, but she wouldent say no to helping them either

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

S'not the first time NPCs have hair colors we can't get. The goblins at the Darkmoon Faire have purple hair. Players can't pick purple. (Unless they're a DK that is. The NPCs are not DKs)

I mean you said it yourself, you can pick it as a DK at least.

Still, doesn't change the fact that black hair looks sweet AF on Velves.

[Deleted]

The problem is : we don't want cocky elves, so it doesn't matter if Blood Elves have blue or golden eyes, they are not high elves. Hey look, even npc high elves don't have the voice quotes from NPC BE, because they are different.

[Evilfish]

Yeah right. ''since BC''... I bet you are one of those who think that high elf fans want high elves just because the horde got blood elves in BC. Also you are overly fixed to words ''whining'', ''crying'' .. It just looks you are insecure and in need to be above those, who demand something.

Also don't forget to suspect me of worshipping the devil too. I mean, I speak against high elves, I must be a satanist...

And people demanding... really? You think you get to make demands? You don't buy Blizzard, you only buy their services, if it's so unbearable, if you think Blizzard is so ignorant of your wishes, then stop buying them and stop trying to make up these armchair psychology evaluations to those that point you towards common sense.

[The Emperor]

Yes, because Ion has to destroy every chance of there ever being any High Elves, and I am with him on that.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

The problem is : we don't want cocky elves, so it doesn't matter if Blood Elves have blue or golden eyes, they are not high elves. Hey look, even npc high elves don't have the voice quotes from NPC BE, because they are different.

Or some people want High Elves that have never been on the Horde, like Velves have or Belves are.

And I'm saying this as someone that mains horde and likes blood elves, but the core of the difference between HE and VE/BE is the politics they have followed, and High Elves are alliance, because they are the ones that never left it on the first place.

Anyone that says HE have the same backstory than VE and BE is just being dense about politics to an amazing degree. Some people still think that saying "Give blue eyes to blood elves problem solved" is a smart opinion.

I mean the whole reason of wanting a HE is because they are part the alliance since War2, otherwise just play a belf or a velf.

[Verdugo]

Or some people want High Elves that have never been on the Horde, like Velves have or Belves are.

And I'm saying this as someone that mains horde and likes blood elves, but the core of the difference between HE and VE/BE is the politics they have followed, and High Elves are alliance, because they are the ones that never left it on the first place.

Anyone that says HE have the same backstory than VE and BE is just being dense about politics to an amazing degree. Some people still think that saying "Give blue eyes to blood elves problem solved" is a smart opinion.

I mean the whole reason of wanting a HE is because they are part the alliance since War2, otherwise just play a belf or a velf.

If you want to play a race traitor, Alliance is there for you.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

If you want to play a race traitor, Alliance is there for you.

Are you even capable of nuance? Or do you actually believe that HE and VE politics are exactly the same?

[Eradicator3]

If you want to play a race traitor, Alliance is there for you.

Excuse me, did you mean draenei? We know they have abandoned their eredar kin

[Aldo Hawk]

Yes, because Ion has to destroy every chance of there ever being any High Elves, and I am with him on that.

You are a hypocrite.

[The Emperor]

You are a hypocrite.

Explain how, and you better not bring San'layn into this, because I swear if I have to explain the difference between San'layn situation and High elf one to another dummy I will kI'll somebody

[AngerFork]

While I do think some High Elves might explore that path, I suspect that will not be the case for all of them.

First, we have not seen Veressa join the fight for Teldrassil yet. We to this point have no reason to believe that Veressa has even joined in the battle with the Horde. The Night Elf commander the Alliance has been working with seems like a stronger possibility here.

Even if it is Veressa and Alleria takes over command of the Silver Covenant (also a bit of a long shot), Alleria herself knows how dangerous the Void can be. It is her lie in the Windrunner comic. She specifically declares the void not to be a gift, but a relentless struggle that she wins. She would not willingly wish the Void upon anyone else unless she specifically could help them control it.

But let's say for the sake of discussion that she went back on that and gave the powers of the Void to the Silver Covenant (a group to this point more associated with Light and Arcane magics). Even if so, this would not stop the people wishing for playable High Elves or demanding Void Elf Paladins. If anything, this would make the demands louder as it would become sort of a last-chance opportunity.

The only true way I see to make the demands go away is to add them in as truly playable in some form, be it as High Elves themselves or some sort of offshoot using the High Elves that add Elvish Paladins to the Alliance.

[Laerrus]

This turned into one giant circle jerk pretty quickly, lol. Some of you would probably jizz all over your monitors if Blizz decided to completely kill off High Elves

God this Community is driving me insane with levels of ignorance.

"Since I don't want it, you can't have it."

Get ready, you are only going to see more of it as time marches on. This is what happens when people get old and grumpy.

[Thestuff1992]

Omg hahaha yea that comic art is horrible but thank you for this!

Feel so bad for the person who made it. Probably worked hard to get that done and everyone’s shitting on it. I know why, I don’t really like it either and it was arguably the most interesting/wanted of the 3 but I feel pretty bad for whoever made it.

[Obelisk Kai]

As with everything it seems to do with Void Elves, this thread has degenerated into yet another High Elf discussion because some players cannot accept the answer they were given, that the Void Elves are the Alliance thalassian elves.

As such, this probably belongs in the megathread.