Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I did. I told you that High Elves taking an interest in the velf area is a hint that they might be joining them. I asked you to debunk that theory with fact and you sent me to whatever fucking page and dismissed me like I was your fucking waiter or something. How the hell do you expect anyone to discuss anything with you wehn you act like that. And not only but go in victim mode when you get called on it.

Provide me with factual proof that I am wrong. I made an assumption I'm fully aware it could be faulty and therefore I'm willing to accept the result. So either do that or keep acting puerile.

Your headcanon is not lore. I mean it could be in time, but don't pretend your theory has any solid evidence.

There's nothing saying that High Elves are becoming Void Elves yet.

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I would have left out the 'morally' to really get to the heart of the matter.

Some darker skinned high elf edits by Ramavatarama on Tumblr.

Sure Kai, we all want white and blonde High Elves, it has nothing to do with the lore.

Also ty Utigarde ;D One thing I like about VE, is that they actually have a dark skin color.

[Andromedes]

I like how blizz crushed hopes of those, who wished that dying elf is vereesa and silver covenant will be wiped out at teldrassil. Yeah that idea was stupid from the start and it existed only to spite high elf fans. Just like other idiotic theories like Genn or Jaina burns Teldrassil, so Sylvanas could look clean (but she can't).

[FlubberPuddy]

I like how blizz crushed hopes of those, who wished that dying elf is vereesa and silver covenant will be wiped out at teldrassil. Yeah that idea was stupid from the start and it existed only to spite high elf fans. Just like other idiotic theories like Genn or Jaina burns Teldrassil, so Sylvanas could look clean (but she can't).

Yup and now it's moved to "they're all gonna turn into Void Elves!"

omegalul worthy

[Strippling]

Sorry...there is a whole faction of High Elves on the Alliance...unlike umm...the only race even remotely human involved with the Horde is a race of walking corpses. Never any kind of vampire race of humans...or more than one unique non-decayed human ever involved with the Horde.

#DoubleStandards

#DoubleStandards should be the new meme for pro-high elfers like yourself. But then... that meme probably applies to most players on forums in general.

Meh, this horse is well and truely dead, beaten, skinned and gutted. At the end of the day though, Blizz agreed with the us in that the request for playable high elfs just wasn't appropriate, based on the many real concerns. Enjoy your compromise, the void elfs. Or alternatively, the high elfs are waiting for you on the Horde.

[DeicideUH]

There is much more than feelings being hurt at stake. But lets say for a second it was purely based on hurt feelings.... you do realize that requesting High Elfs is literally requesting for a race/aesthetic that forms a core part of the Horde. So, if people were to "feel hurt" that a core identity of their preferred faction were to simply be given to the blue side (because the innocent pro-high elfers kindly requested it) would this be wrong? Your response suggests that they have no right to feel hurt.

The reality though, is that there are more than just feelings at stake. Blurring faction lines is a no no, and adding high elfs does just that. Else might as well change the name of the game and make both sides perfectly equal... experience and all.

"Blurring faction lines" has already happened four times.
No, it's about people being upset that Alliance may get a model that was given to the Alliance anyway.

[Syegfryed]

"Blurring faction lines" has already happened four times.

it didn't, only with pandarens

void elves and nighborne are different enough to not blur the factions, if you think they are not,you would be fine with then

[DeicideUH]

it didn't, only with pandarens

void elves and nighborne are different enough to not blur the factions, if you think they are not,you would be fine with then

Blood elves, pandaren, void elves and nightborne. All blurred faction lines.

Blood elves made the Horde as un-horde-like as possible. They stick out like a sore thumb to this day.

Void elves and night elves are literal subraces of blood elves and night elves. The models were exchanged between factions.

If that's not blurring faction lines, then high elves aren't as well.

[Syegfryed]

Blood elves, pandaren, void elves and nightborne. All blurred faction lines.

And i said they were different enough to not blur, your retirc is say "nuh hun they do blur"

Blood elves made the Horde as un-horde-like as possible. They stick out like a sore thumb to this day.

they change the horde look, they didn't blur the factions, they didn't take a race the alliance had playable

Void elves and night elves are literal subraces of blood elves and night elves. The models were exchanged between factions.

models enough, don't blur the factions, again, they are different enough, in terms of theme, colors and models to not blur the factions

If that's not blurring faction lines, then high elves aren't as well.[/QUOTE]

[Syegfryed]

I think you might want to read this if you really think Blood Elves are the heart and soul of the Horde:https://wow.gamepedia.com/Blood_elf_controversy

yes, but the elves are not a playable race on the alliance, then put on the horde

they could ruin and distort the horde image, but they didn't blur the factions as they are present in WoW

And i never said they are the heart and the soul of the horde, you are putting words on my mouth, stop being this low

[Kithelle]

#DoubleStandards should be the new meme for pro-high elfers like yourself. But then... that meme probably applies to most players on forums in general.

Meh, this horse is well and truely dead, beaten, skinned and gutted. At the end of the day though, Blizz agreed with the us in that the request for playable high elfs just wasn't appropriate, based on the many real concerns. Enjoy your compromise, the void elfs. Or alternatively, the high elfs are waiting for you on the Horde.

I get it...you're so sad you need to stick your fingers in your ears and scream "I know you are but what am I" because you literally have nothing useful to say. Probably a new account who shot his mouth off and got banned so had to make a new one...so you need to be a talking parrot in order not to get yourself banned again....I understand completely.

[Aldo Hawk]

There is much more than feelings being hurt at stake. But lets say for a second it was purely based on hurt feelings.... you do realize that requesting High Elfs is literally requesting for a race/aesthetic that forms a core part of the Horde. So, if people were to "feel hurt" that a core identity of their preferred faction were to simply be given to the blue side (because the innocent pro-high elfers kindly requested it) would this be wrong? Your response suggests that they have no right to feel hurt.

The reality though, is that there are more than just feelings at stake. Blurring faction lines is a no no, and adding high elfs does just that. Else might as well change the name of the game and make both sides perfectly equal... experience and all.

Surprise bit**, this is a heated discussion, and what does happen when a discussion heats up? Confrontation? That's right you guessed it, well done!! *CLAPS INTENSIFIES*

Give me a fuc**** break and stop trying to discredit others with sh** that doesn't have a value in the final recount of things, ergo sentimental crap.

Trying to modify the entire context of the discussion finishing your post assuming that the FINAL EVIL PLOT is to make both factions equal is completely moronic.

[matrix123mko]

I would have left out the 'morally' to really get to the heart of the matter.

They perceive fel and void as "morally grey" magic.

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That's because Blood Elves are Evil and use Evil Magic.
Morally White Elves sounds better than the Horde is waiting for you Elves.

I still prefer blood elves, as they are true elves - scholars who are above morality. Also, what is wrong with using fel?
High elves are traitors of their kind who prefer to serve lesser races instead of studying new forms of magic.

[Benomatic]

Yet the majority of alliance players who want high elves would more than likely vouch ogres for the horde and be happy that both factions are complete

[Obelisk Kai]

Sure Kai, we all want white and blonde High Elves, it has nothing to do with the lore.

Also ty Utigarde ;D One thing I like about VE, is that they actually have a dark skin color.

For the vast majority of pro High Elfers, it has little to do with lore. I have often offered proof of this; the Unofficial void elf threads that clogged up the forums at the end of last year and the beginning of this year, where many pro High Elfers congregated and agitated for a 'compromise' on Void Elves i.e. normal white skin tones.

Once they realised Void Elves were going to be kept as Void Elves and not get the normal skin tones they craved, the High Elf debate kicked off in earnest for another three to four months.

That SOME want them for the lore is true. But they appear to be the minority. Many use the lore to cloak their desire for an unblemished version of the model, because it gives weight to what is a shallow desire.

As for these images, they are meaningless. There is no reason a High Elf would have darker skin tone options than a Blood Elf, as they are the same group. If these skin tones were available, then Blood Elves would have access to them too. If Blood Elves had access to them, they would not be a point of differentiation. And thus as a suggestion, they don't work.

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Morally White Elves sounds better than the Horde is waiting for you Elves.

If you want to play a traditional High Elf, the Horde IS waiting for you. That is a statement of fact.

If you cannot stomach the Horde, the Void Elf variant is available to you.

[Azrathel]

Shameless plugging of my own work, I know, but here's the transparent version of the Icon of Endurance:

[Starla]

Don't start with that excuse. Alliance Players have been asking for High Elves for bloodly years now and to say that it affects your perfect gameplay in this game makes you less smart. A lot of people play this game too you know. Not just you and or the horde faction in general.

Little point in discussing with people who start by telling me what not to do and calling me 'less smart'. Do you bully in real life too?

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No one would be losing anything. It's just "Buh mah feelings!".

If you want people to care about your opinion on high elves then I suggest you not be dismissive of the players who are clearly affected by your demands.

[DeicideUH]

If you want people to care about your opinion on high elves then I suggest you not be dismissive of the players who are clearly affected by your demands.

I don't want them to "care" about my opinion. I'm in these discussions for too long to expect anything close to that.

[Starla]

Well that's cool then. If you're going to dismiss my views then I have no problem telling you that yours don't matter either.

[FlubberPuddy]

Well that's cool then. If you're going to dismiss my views then I have no problem telling you that yours don't matter either.

No one's view matters besides Blizzard's. That's why the player to player view doesn't need to matter in the first place.

People who request something for the game don't need to appeal to its playerbase, all they have to do is appeal to the developers.

Everything else is just commentary for the decision makers (developers).

[Sigxy]

Well, I guess Blizzard finally made a distinction between high elves and blood elves. Blood elves are evil and high elves are good.

I feel like you're basing this on the events of Teldrassil burning... in which case: you REALLY have to start open your eyes up and look on the forums. There are -A LOT- of people on the Horde side who are NOT okay with what Sylvanas does.

But hey, let's go with the logic that Blood elves and High Elves NOT being the same. At least the artsy cutscene showed really well that high elves aren't fit for the "surival of the fittest". "Imma gonna GUITAR SLIIIDE in STYLE and--- oh hello Arthas *DEAD*"