Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Evilfish]

I hate when people assume why I want to play as an Alliance high elf.. Some people say: ''You just want to fulfill your Lord of the rings fantasy of elves, men and dwarves together. This is not Lord of the rings'' and then this guy who is barfing something about racism..

So why all this fuss over skin tone? You play a High Elf that got fed up being insignificant and ate a big bowl of void. If this is not some Tolkien-esque wet dream of yours then why does it matter?

[Aldo Hawk]

Uh... wut? You need to come at me a little stronger than that, Aldo. Come correct, dude, or don't at all.

You've yet to reply to my initial quote to you. Until you address that, I'm not really interested in your one-liner chicken scratch. Most of what you put out is utter nonsense, anyway. Not sure why I expected any different from you.

I don't want to bother me much with you, so i just give simple messages, if you didn't taked them, a more elaborated reaponse would have been ignored too.

So as what i see trying to get you on reality is impossible because that means you looking to yourself in a mirror, and clearly you dislike what you see.

[Darththeo]

Sad they're projecting their own views onto others.

I want High Elves so Alliance can have an Elf Paladin. If Void Elves got that I wouldn't have been rallying for HEs.

People who come at others with "no THIS is actually why you want em" need to feel good about themselves by telling others how to be.

There are literally more Undead Paladins in game than High Elf paladins in game. High Elves paladins are rare and likely wouldn't be a playable class if High Elves ever became playable.

[Evilfish]

There's Arator. He's a paladin and also there was high elf in silver covenant that is a paladin trainer too.

So something that has been seen in game is too rare but there's more undead paladins in the game?

Last time I check there wasn't any undead paladins other than Death Knights.

Arator the Redeemer? Isn't he half human?

[Friendlyimmolation]

"I want high elves because of lore!"

Lore doesn't support them being playable

"because they were a core part of the Alliance!"

They never were.

And it circles on and on and on.

[Aldo Hawk]

"I want high elves because of lore!"

Lore doesn't support them being playable

"because they were a core part of the Alliance!"

They never were.

And it circles on and on and on.

Please tell me that i'm delusional please have the guts to do it right after you wrote that pile of horseshit i beg you.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Please tell me that i'm delusional please have the guts to do it right after you wrote that pile of horseshit i beg you.

I mean if countless years of being told no by the developers has somehow convinced you that you're in the right and they just don't understand, then yes, you are being delusional.

"Having the guts" That's hilarious.

[Sigxy]

Arator the Redeemer? Isn't he half human?

Nah they don't want people like him anymore... He's got golden eyes now - just like Blood Elves.

[Tyrion Moonblade]

Enkrypt, everybody! Give him a round of applause!

He's certainly begging for one.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

"I want high elves because of lore!"

Lore doesn't support them being playable

"because they were a core part of the Alliance!"

They never were.

And it circles on and on and on.

Reminder that your interpretation and argumentations are in no way empirical fact. And "no they aren't" isn't really a compelling argument on its own.

[Strippling]

I get it...you're so sad you need to stick your fingers in your ears and scream "I know you are but what am I" because you literally have nothing useful to say. Probably a new account who shot his mouth off and got banned so had to make a new one...so you need to be a talking parrot in order not to get yourself banned again....I understand completely.

Lol look who has the ban. That's classic! Thanks for the laughs kiddo

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We still share the same planet, breath the same air, so yes, you'd be just as affected by me going to sleep later as me playing a high elf, something that you can both ignore and not think about.

But ok, if you don't like this comparison, here is another: imagine we are flatmates, and I buy a T-shirt, that is kinda similar to yours but of different brand. How exactly that would affect you? It wouldn't affect you in any way at all and you throwing a tantrum about it would be completely ridiculous. As ridiculous as you now throwing a tantrum about people asking for High Elves.

And irrational feeling of some people "stealing your elf" is the only thing that really is going on with you and most people who post over and over about how they don't want to see High Elves. Identity? Please, High Elves are already a part of Alliance and are everywhere in WoW. You can already go and kill them and with them being playable, you would just be able to kill them in more places than you can do now. But surely you'd ignore this point and continue to push this ridiculous point about "muh identity" that is long gone since High Elves became official counterparts of Blood Elves in Alliance already back in Wrath.

What I'm hearing is that you're wanting something that the Horde has because it looks cool. Got it... pro-high elfers are like a little child wanting the new shiny toy that Jimmy next door got. And when daddy Blizzard said "no I already gave you the grape colored one", the little child threw a tantrum (sorry I correct myself, the little child is STILL throwing a tantrum).

And with the case of your T-shirt comparison (which by the way is the probably the second stupidest comparison I think I've ever seen... you're on a roll, keep it up), living in the same home both with similar shirts...yea likely they'll be mixed up at some stage, especially in the wash... ergo definition of blurring

[Andromedes]

I mean if countless years of being told no by the developers has somehow convinced you that you're in the right and they just don't understand, then yes, you are being delusional.

"Having the guts" That's hilarious.

Countless years.. Right. You want to make arguments but you cant even count.
Right before WoD started, Ion said how he likes to talk about different ''subraces'' like Mag'har orcs or High elves.. So i dont know where ''countless years of being told no '' comes from. I guess from your little spiteful brain.

What I'm hearing is that you're wanting something that the Horde has because it looks cool. Got it... pro-high elfers are like a little child wanting the new shiny toy that Jimmy next door got. And when daddy Blizzard said "no I already gave you the grape colored one", the little child threw a tantrum (sorry I correct myself, the little child is STILL throwing a tantrum)

So people who want high elves since vanilla want to steal visuals of your precious race, that was added in BC? Cool story.

[Deleted]

But we have precedent for "non original races", even ones that cross faction, as well as we have the precedent for the same exact model on two different factions.

Let's pretend that High Eves looking just like Blood Elves is one thing too far to ever conceive. Alright then; what if they are given the NB treatement? (different proportions and idle stance than cross faction base race, plus different cosmetic choices) Wouldn't that be enough?

"But there hasn't been enough time for high elves to be different" you may say. Does aesthetic differentiation need to be diegetic? Thalyssra looks pretty much like a night elf in her cinematic, her actual difference from a Night Elf is minimal beyond the ear shape. So are the differences on the NB model diegetic or not? are they just an aesthetic representation?

Well, while Nightborne are similar to Night Elves, you would definitively not confuse them. Not only do they have different ear forms, they also are slimmer than Night Elves. You clearly can tell a Nightborne from a Night Elf even from a further distance.

Void Elves on the other hand, are an almost exact copy of Blood Elves. You need to look closer to separate a Void Elf from a Blood Elf. They only have different hues of skin and hair, and some small void-specific characteristics.

Honestly, you got an almost perfect copy of Blood Elf models and still whine about High Elves?

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Well, while Nightborne are similar to Night Elves, you would definitively not confuse them. Not only do they have different ear forms, they also are slimmer than Night Elves. You clearly can tell a Nightborne from a Night Elf even from a further distance.

Void Elves on the other hand, are an almost exact copy of Blood Elves. You need to look closer to separate a Void Elf from a Blood Elf. They only have different hues of skin and hair, and some small void-specific characteristics.

Honestly, you got an almost perfect copy of Blood Elf models and still whine about High Elves?

Are Void Elves High Elves lorewise? Furthermore, are you aware of the difference between High Elves and Blood Elves? If you don't understand the difference fine, but what are you bringing to the conversation for someone who the political distinction matters?

I was excitedl about Void Elves, hoping they were gonna use the Alliance High Elf lore, yet they ended up being exiled blood elves.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

high elves = blood elves

what do you have to discuss about a race thats in the game for more than 14 years?

Willful ignorance of nuance doesn't make you cooler. High Elves and Blood Elves are distinct political groups, they have been since the start or WoW.

[Andromedes]

high elves = blood elves

what do you have to discuss about a race thats in the game for more than 14 years?

Green orc = Mag'har orc; Bronzebeard dwarf = Wildhammer dwarf; Draenei = Man'ari; forest troll = jungle troll;
Am i doing it right?

[Darththeo]

There's Arator. He's a paladin and also there was high elf in silver covenant that is a paladin trainer too.

So something that has been seen in game is too rare but there's more undead paladins in the game?

Last time I check there wasn't any undead paladins other than Death Knights.

Arator isn't a High Elf ... he's a half elf. He is a Paladin because of his father.

High Elf Paladin:
Rulen Lightsreap: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=50160/rulen-lightsreap
Champion Isimode: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=35575/champion-isimode

As for Undead Paladins there:
Sir Zeliek: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=16063/sir-zeliek#abilities
Scarlet Commander Marjhan: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=46092/sca...jhan#abilities
Multiple: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9448/scar...rian#abilities
Multiple: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=9447/scar...rder#abilities

Even if I grant you Arator ... you are still fewer than the Undead Paladins.

[Darkstrike]

what is wrong with you? high elves are blood elves

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read the comment i wrote to the former dummy it now applies to you too

Blood elves WERE high elves , they are not anymore. Void elves WERE Blood elves ,once upon a time they were high elves as well, they are neither anymore, they are void elves.

[Darththeo]

"I want high elves because of lore!"

Lore doesn't support them being playable

"because they were a core part of the Alliance!"

They never were.

And it circles on and on and on.

Lore doesn't support Void Elves being Playable. Lore doesn't support Gnomes being playable ... but here they are.
Lore doesn't support Darkspear being playable. Hell, Lore doesn't really support FORSAKEN being playable if you want to push it. They made lore to fit the above being playable, they could fucking do it for High Elves.

As for them being a core part of the Alliance ... yeah, you need to actually look at the Lore. High Elves were once a valued member of the Alliance, which most people will view as core. This comes down to YOUR definition of core. For example, I don't view Blood Elves as a core race of the Horde ... you have the core: Orcs, Trolls and Tauren, the Newcomers: Forsaken, Blood Elves and Goblin and the Pandaren and the Allied Races. Others will view Core as all main races.

[Andromedes]

high elves are blood elves. they should basically rename blood elves to be high elves and be done with it.

Maghar orcs are just green orcs.. They should rename all orcs to Mag'har orcs and be done with it.