1. #7001
    There is no problem with High Elves. They are there, in the Horde.

  2. #7002
    Or you can just play Blood Elves.

  3. #7003
    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    Simply add a ability where a void elf when out of combat can transform back to a regular elf just like Alleria and the worgen, have a small quest chain about a group of High elves from the Silver covenant wanting to join or dont bother even doing that if Blizz is feeling lazy, just add a new ability and bam. They will be diffrient enough then just blood elves with blue eyes and it would finally mark the end of annoying fans demands every single expansion and every time a new elf sub race has been introduced.

    This will satisfy everybody involved.
    Confused. Why would blood elves need a quest to be blood elves?

  4. #7004
    Tell you what, give Alliance high elves. It'll shut those whiners up and it'll allow the blood elves to return to their TBC characterization when they weren't boring as sin.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

    Tinkers will be the next Class confirmed.

  5. #7005
    Quote Originally Posted by Sunderella View Post
    There is no problem with High Elves. They are there, in the Horde.
    Or you can just play Blood Elves.
    Confused. Why would blood elves need a quest to be blood elves?
    Some actuall arguments please, I don't care at all about the High elves not being playable, just to shut people up who constantly complain that they arent.

  6. #7006
    How about no?

    Void elves is what you are gonna get cause blizz wanted actual differences between the elf races.

    High elves is never gonna happen and we all know its never gonna happen cause is been said countless, countless, countless, countless TIMES!!!!!

  7. #7007
    Quote Originally Posted by Yzak View Post
    Why would a sect of Elves who have become Void corrupted get a cleansed skin?

    Alleria method of becoming a Void Elf is entirely different from how the others were created.
    They could learn from Allaria who taught them how to change back, there, it's all stupid but cmon like is this really that much of a problem when looking at the other plot holes, like bringing back a corpse turned to ash by dragons kind of a plot hole?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fsdhjte View Post
    How about no?

    Void elves is what you are gonna get cause Blizz wanted actual differences between the elf races.

    High elves are never gonna happen and we all know its never gonna happen cause is been said countless, countless, countless, countless TIMES!!!!!
    Void elves that can only transform when out of combat back while still having voices in their heads telling them to kill everything is a pretty big difference.

    I know that it was, but it still didn't stop the annoying demand, and Blizz having to say the same thing over and over and over, it will satisfy both sides.
    Last edited by ausoin; 2018-10-04 at 02:47 PM.

  8. #7008
    lol there is no high elf debacle.

    Horde has high elves, alliance has a faction of space emo high elves. Everyone has high elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yzak View Post
    Why would a sect of Elves who have become Void corrupted get a cleansed skin?

    Allerias method of becoming a Void Elf is entirely different from how the others were created.
    Not corrupted!

  10. #7010
    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    They could learn from Allaria who taught them how to change back, there, it's all stupid but cmon like is this really that much of a problem when looking at the other plot holes, like bringing back a corpse turned to ash by dragons kind of a plot hole?
    Two wrongs don't make a right. And the issue isn't even one of Lore. It's one of Blizzard not wanting the same race being playable on both factions.
    Cause High Elves are Blood Elves. And the Horde has playable High Elves.

    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    Void elves that can only transform when out of combat transform back while still having voices in their heads telling them to kill everything is a pretty big difference.

    I know that it was, but it still didn't stop the annoying demand, and Blizz having to say the same thing over and over and over, it will satisfy both sides.
    At this point Blizzard should stop responding to something they've answered multiple times. Unless there are changes to announce, they shouldn't address Alliance high elves again.
    Last edited by Villager720; 2018-10-04 at 02:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenji87 View Post
    Not corrupted!
    And definately not insane.

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    It actually wouldn't, bc it ignores the entire issue of High Elves. It isn't that Blizz hates HEs, it's that they don't want them playable on the Alliance. That would be like the Horde getting Arathi Humans, bc they're so "politically different". What would truly end this would be to give BE characters an option for blue eyes. Then people can have that aesthetic, but its inline w/ Blizzard's philosophy on how they want the story/game to go. Basically the only way to truly cripple legitimate demand for HEs, is to destroy them lorewise (by death or improving relations w/ BEs) or to give any defining trait they have to BEs.

    It'd piss people off, but I'm sure the majority of players would be happier the discussion is over.

  13. #7013
    Quote Originally Posted by Yzak View Post
    So your answer is since lore is shit might as well keep at the status quo? Yeah, no thanks.

    Alleria had prior training with Locus-walker and consumed the heart of a Void corrupt fallen Naruu. The Elves were forcefully changed into void elves via ritual with no prior training and thus were corrupted. They need no other form.
    Well since the lore will never be vastly improved, I failed to see how it could hurt anything, it would be all satisfactory for everybody, nobody is gonna give a shit about the void elves new training to change back appearce only, look at the Worgen, the player got infected and turned and five seconds later he could change back to a human form, no complaints there from anybody.
    Last edited by ausoin; 2018-10-04 at 02:55 PM.

  14. #7014
    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    Well since the lore will never be vastly improve, I failed to see how it could hurt anything, it would be all satisfactory for everybody, nobody is gonna give a shit about the void elves new training to change back appearce only, look at the Worgen, the player got infected and turned and five seconds later he could freally change back to a human form, no complaints there from anybody.
    Humans were a playable Alliance race. So Alliance playable race looking like Alliance playable race isn't the same issue.

  15. #7015
    No. Having two races that are too similar on opposite factions is something Blizzard doesn’t want. It is why the Void Elves look the way they do. Even the Nightborne have been given plenty of differences from their NE skeleton.

  16. #7016
    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    No. Having two races that are too similar on opposite factions is something Blizzard doesn’t want. It is why the Void Elves look the way they do.
    They are too similar in appearance only, a temporary appearance.

    Is a terminator to similar to human charachters because he has an outlying appearance of a human?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Humans were a playable Alliance race. So Alliance playable race looking like Alliance playable race isn't the same issue.
    So were the High Elves in Warcraft 2 and 3. Playable units on the Alliance faction

  17. #7017
    The whole point of void elves was to give the alliance something close to high elves, but a bit different thematically and visually.

    Giving them normal high elf options defeats the purpose. Worgen work because humans are already on the Alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    Well since the lore will never be vastly improved, I failed to see how it could hurt anything, it would be all satisfactory for everybody, nobody is gonna give a shit about the void elves new training to change back appearce only, look at the Worgen, the player got infected and turned and five seconds later he could freally change back to a human form, no complaints there from anybody.
    That's because Worgens change back into humans--which are an Alliance race. Worgens are also canonically humans/bastard druids (ignoring the NEs). That is entirely different from VEs reverting into a form that belongs to a race of an opposing faction. That's why this is an issue in the first place and why VEs were made instead.

  19. #7019
    Quote Originally Posted by ausoin View Post
    They could learn from Allaria who taught them how to change back, there, it's all stupid but cmon like is this really that much of a problem when looking at the other plot holes, like bringing back a corpse turned to ash by dragons kind of a plot hole?
    Alleria was a vastly different scenario. Void Elves were partially transformed into etherals while Alleria had training in the void prior and absorbed a dark naaru.

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    Allow the BE to massacre them and survivors fully join the VE. No HE no problems

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