Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

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If you check the modelviewer on the front page and switch skincolor Blood Elves now has BLUE eyes aswell as gold! My prayers have been answered.

Could be DK eyes but I hope not.

EDIT: Oh yeah Im certain that it is Blue Eyes and not DK eyes, amount of faces for both non DK Belf and DK Belf only goes up to 10, respectively 13 face options on live while the new Blue eyes starts from 10-19.

[Obelisk Kai]

If you check the modelviewer on the front page and switch skincolor Blood Elves now has BLUE eyes aswell as gold! My prayers have been answered.

Could be DK eyes but I hope not.

EDIT: Oh yeah Im certain that it is Blue Eyes and not DK eyes, amount of faces for both non DK Belf and DK Belf only goes up to 10, respectively 13 face options on live while the new Blue eyes starts from 10-19.

Those have been there forever.

Because Blood Elves are High Elves, Blizzard doesn't have a separate model for the High Elf NPCs. They simply have NPC options housed under the Blood Elf model and use when required.

[Amunrasonther]

This was a nice suggestion. It needed to be different from Nightborne, so this is wooden ear jewelry with feather accents. While I was at it, I threw in the idea of streaked hair dye for added customization. Something like the hair and ear jewelry would probably be optional. There's also some warpaint thrown onto the ears.

Amazing job. I love how i can just throw an idea at you and you create it!. The new hair streaks and face coloring is very nicely down as well. I'll have to think of something else for you XD

[Blazindragon1737]

One thing that I noticed is that the 5 skin tones that the High Elf model use are all white or pale with no redish tints so their skin is actually quite different since all the Blood Elf skin tones have a redish tint to them. That plus the blue eyes definitely help make them stick out more. I think you should maybe have the 5 skin tones as pics for your list since they would be helpful for your gallery.

Also too all those saying giving the Alliance High Elves because they look too similar to Blood Elves and they would be hard to tell apart from each other. 1. They haven't had any problems giving both sides Pandaren that have all the exact same customization options for both sides and 2. When you PVP the enemies turn red anyways so how does two races looking the same affect anything??

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I'd like to see some armor from the Silver Covenant in the Crystalsong Forest or Argent Tournament Grounds since these sets look more like Highvale High Elves armor. Also like the armor the High Elves wear in the Zul'Aman raid patch trailer and Sylvanas Windrunner Heroes of the Storm trailer would be great to have and maybe some of the WC3 casters cloth armor

[Ramz]

Still the same argument can be said about Zandalari Paladins. Taurens were your compromise, accept that and move on, but still there is clearly a demand for it. None should be disclosed because of "reasons" but discussed.

It's not comparable. Zandalari paladins will be major part of the story and Ion was hinting that the ending will allow them to be pallies. Besides it's just class option not entire race.

On topic though. Tbh they look to me like Wildhammer wannabes.

[Lumineus]

One thing that I noticed is that the 5 skin tones that the High Elf model use are all white or pale with no redish tints so their skin is actually quite different since all the Blood Elf skin tones have a redish tint to them. That plus the blue eyes definitely help make them stick out more. I think you should maybe have the 5 skin tones as pics for your list since they would be helpful for your gallery.

Yes, yes, we know that's the canon and the way it's represented in game.

Horde players wont STFU about "Schutzstaffel Aryan Nazi Elves," though. Despite the Blood Elves trying to genocide the Draenei a second time, turning to the occult, using suicidal blitz tactics and being ruled by demon elf Hitler, no, it's the uncorrupted High Elves that are the Nazis becuz BLOND BLU EYZ TEH EBIL.

[Mister Cheese]

If you check the modelviewer on the front page and switch skincolor Blood Elves now has BLUE eyes aswell as gold! My prayers have been answered.

Could be DK eyes but I hope not.

EDIT: Oh yeah Im certain that it is Blue Eyes and not DK eyes, amount of faces for both non DK Belf and DK Belf only goes up to 10, respectively 13 face options on live while the new Blue eyes starts from 10-19.

NPC options are enabled by default on the MMO champion model viewer. That's normal. Believe me if they enabled blue eyes for player models there would be a shitstorm of epic proportions and both wowhead and mmo champ would be announcing it.

[Wildberry]

No matter how many ridiculous ideas are in here (Blue Dragonflight druids...) it well never be as ridiculous as Void Elves are.

[Syegfryed]

No matter how many ridiculous ideas are in here (Blue Dragonflight druids...) it well never be as ridiculous as Void Elves are.

i dunno man, pretty sure blue dragonflight druids is way more retarded

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On topic though. Tbh they look to me like Wildhammer wannabes.

its the silver covenant concept who are not silver covenant, some kind of paradox

[FossilFree]

Yes, yes, we know that's the canon and the way it's represented in game.

Horde players wont STFU about "Schutzstaffel Aryan Nazi Elves," though. Despite the Blood Elves trying to genocide the Draenei a second time, turning to the occult, using suicidal blitz tactics and being ruled by demon elf Hitler, no, it's the uncorrupted High Elves that are the Nazis becuz BLOND BLU EYZ TEH EBIL.

Which is why adding Half-Elves into the Silver Covenant would be so awesome. We know from Arator that they have the frame of a High Elf, but they could also pick up other traits from their human side too, like tropical and subtropical skin tones and the bushy hair that humans and Kul Tirans also need to get. "Wakanda" style Half-Elves would be pretty sweet and way outside the box.

Also, the blue eye thing refers not to iris color, as so many seem to think, but rather to the blue glow of magic. There is nothing saying you couldn't have brown irises while the eyes glow blue. Look at Alleria's eyes in the Mac'Aree cutscenes for example.

[Wildberry]

, but they could also pick up other traits from their human side too, like tropical and subtropical skin tones and the bushy hair that humans and Kul Tirans also need to get. "Wakanda" style Half-Elves would be pretty sweet and way outside the box.

lol no.
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[Gurluas]

Originally many High elves stopped practicing magic as it can be seen here. So perhaps focusing on those High elves and taking the magic aspect out almost entirely would help separate them further form Belves and Velves.


Also adding big beards for them would also add more customization to differentiate them. Like these:

[Rotomon]

I dig it +1

[Corroc]

The only reason why I hope this doesn't happen.




I didn't go through 40 pages to see if someone said this already.

[Zorish]

*sigh*
people... with all your concepts... tell me what is the meaning of "High" elf in the warcraft universe. Is it really being treehugger? ranger? abadoning magic?
answer - NO! "High" elf mean that YOU! ARE! MAGIC! RELATED! Abbadon it? and you will be night elf/wood elf/paper elf/etc. So all your concepts want to separate yourself from your magic using brothers - Blood elves? ok - but YOU ARE NOT HIGH ELF ANYMORE THEN! You are tree elf. Want another offshot from elven race?

And okay - let's settle this.
You say that you took concept from WC2... okay. You know what it mean? EVERY! PART! OF! THIS! CONCEPT! CAN! BE! ADDED! TO! BLOOD ELVES. Because every elf from WC2 if he survived LIVE in silvermoon. Blood elves NOT CHILDREN OF THIS ELVES! It's ~25 years passed! For long lived race! Race wich described in every universe as race wich multiply rate VERY LOW! Do you understand? Survivors of this war who represent your "concepts" LIVE IN SILVERMOON (partly at least). Wich mean that eveyrthing how you want to separate them from Blood Elves ACTUALLY just another option for BE. Or you think that every elf who used tatoo - cleared them after this? Didn't this sound stupid?


In the end your "High elf" will be castrated version of Blood elves, cause of everything they used in the past apply to Blood elves because so little time passed. like i will try to create list for this:

Blood elves.
eye colors: golden (restored sunwell), green (fel users), blue (arcane users)
Skin color: from pale to liiiiiitle bit of red (because we see how fel acting on skin color with orcs, so it's not canon, but i admit it could be possible)
tatoos: everything used by elves in the WC series
hair color: Every color used for elves in WC series
outfit: Every outfit used for elves in WC series

"High elves"
Eye color: blue only
Skin color: from pale to normal pink
tatoos: everything used by elves in the WC series
hair color: Every color used for elves in WC series
outfit: Every outfit used for elves in WC series. Maybe with more feather from wildhammer clan

see? because only ~25 years passed you trying to create difference where it's actually exist IN FAVOR of Blood elves. It's "High elves" who have lesser options than Blood elves.
Okay and now to the end. After events in Sunwell i still don't undestand why separation still exist. BE don't drain living creatures now, and even allow "High elves" visit sunwell. So answer me - WHAT THE REASON for them to kill each other for different factions?

[KrakHed]

Okay and now to the end. After events in Sunwell i still don't undestand why separation still exist. BE don't drain living creatures now, and even allow "High elves" visit sunwell. So answer me - WHAT THE REASON for them to kill each other for different factions?

Same as it always was. Mostly political. Also, I don't think the skin color differences are even Fel related. Blue eyes just don't look as good with the more tanned skin colors, and Blizzard only rarely makes a ton of new skins to represent NPC subrace variants.

I unfortunately have to agree on your points here. There's not a lot that separates or defines High Elves from Blood Elves besides political differences. The ranger culture isn't even all that different between them. The main physical difference is so minor that Death Knights would render them indistinguishable from one another.

This is probably why Void Elves exist and we didn't get Krokul. They tried coming up with a way to more drastically differentiate them from Blood Elves. Which isn't going to please High Elf fans, since they mostly seem to want more traditional Elves. Not sinister dark magic elves.

So, that's a worthwhile question to ask. How far could High Elves be changed and still satisfy High Elf fans?

[Syegfryed]

Originally many High elves stopped practicing magic as it can be seen here. So perhaps focusing on those High elves and taking the magic aspect out almost entirely would help separate them further form Belves and Velves.

so... no kind of magic, no priests, no mages, no paladins, do Dks, no warlocks and maybe no monks as well,

you have some idea of how the shitstorm would be? the salty lvs would be unbelievable

[corebit]

I don't know why the concepts are veering more and more towards Scottish elves. Is it just because Alleria has some blue face-paint?

[Utigarde]

This was a nice suggestion. It needed to be different from Nightborne, so this is wooden ear jewelry with feather accents. While I was at it, I threw in the idea of streaked hair dye for added customization. Something like the hair and ear jewelry would probably be optional. There's also some warpaint thrown onto the ears.

Holy hell, I just saw the full post. These are some fantastic edits, and some fantastic armor too.

As long as they also get some normal hairstyles, the windswept and streaks look amazing.

One suggestion I'd have is darker skin tones. In the newer Chronicles canon, the skin tone scale was changed from just peach tones to simply the skin tones of humans, meaning high elves could likely have dark skin tones. Would also make sense if they're more farstrider based elves, years of living in the woods and in lodges likely got them a lot more tan/darker. Plus, dark skin + blue tattoos would be fantastic.

[Gurluas]

so... no kind of magic, no priests, no mages, no paladins, do Dks, no warlocks and maybe no monks as well,

you have some idea of how the shitstorm would be? the salty lvs would be unbelievable

In Warcraft magic usually means Arcane magic so that's what I meant.