Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Starla]

Yes because I like to talk to some of the people from there, they dont ALWAYS talk about high elves you know.

Right there is talk about hoping Blizzard Headquarters goes up in flames, how much you hate Blood Elf players, how to report any posts on the general forums you don't like...yes.

[FlubberPuddy]

Also, if Void Elves are supposed to be the Elves that were/are made for High Elf fans. I would say the continual pop up talks about High Elves being wanted on the Alliance despite Void Elves release shows that Blizzard has failed in this regard.

This is very much equateable to when Holinka asked the Rated PvP community if they would like previous season Elite Glad Armor to be available because of course a lot of other players who had not gotten Glad in those previous seasons wanted a way to get those Elite armor sets. What was Blizzard's official decision on that? They listened to the players who had received multiple elite sets who said "no we don't want this". IE they listened to their intended audience.

If Void Elves were meant to be the shoe-in for the High Elf fans, then Blizzard has failed in listening to their intended audience (High Elf fans). This is also why you will never see Blizzard stating that Void Elves are meant for the High Elf fans. They know it isn't what High Elf fans wanted.

If the Void Elves were meant to just get the Thalassian Elf model onto the Alliance side then of course those who just wanted to play the Blood Elf model on Alliance got their wish.

[Andromedes]

but the rest is not story development, its just showing up as npcs and not being relevant, sidekick of the humans of the kirin tor and the night elves

Of fucking course they are showing as npcs, how else should they show up? Also good to hear, that there was no purging of dalaran, and no high elf was killing blood elves.

Right there is talk about hoping Blizzard Headquarters goes up in flames, how much you hate Blood Elf players, how to report any posts on the general forums you don't like...yes.

Is there really anything left to debate? I see us only rehashing the same old, same old. And now the High Elf discord is just filled with repeated mantras, hate for Ion, hate for Blood Elf players and hate for Horde. After months of discussion on the WoW forums there seems nothing left to say that hasn't already been said. And how dare anyone ask for blue eyes for Blood Elves when their group takes personal offense at it?
Oi...sorry seems I've gotten frustrated.

God you are annoying, shut the hell up and stop fabricating things to push your agenda. People like you are the worst. You must be mentally ill, if you are frustrated by high elf posters and their discord, and yet you keep stalking them and keep moaning about them.

[Syegfryed]

Of fucking course they are showing as npcs, how else should they show up? Also good to hear, that there was no purging of dalaran, and no high elf was killing blood elves.

showing up as prominent and meaningful npcs, who do something insted of dummy

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I did, lots of times. But sure thing, continue with your Rexxar got more development than the High Elves!!!1111LUL

in tbc we had rexxar going on the moknathl village, and they joining the horde

in cata they were retconed

Veress not even get out of dalaran in WtLK

MOP it was about kirint tor and jaina with high elves being sidekick, sme thing in legion now it is high elves

Just that you say that Void Elves got more development shows that you have no idea what you are talking about.

literally not you show is story development and story going forward, all the time they are random and irrelevant npcs who barely make difference

The void elves at lest show up in undercity and save the alliance ass, and have story going foward with the theme of the void lords

[Doffen]

showing up as prominent and meaningful npcs, who do something insted of dummy

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in tbc we had rexxar going on the moknathl village, and they joining the horde

in cata they were retconed

Veress not even get out of dalaran in WtLK

MOP it was about kirint tor and jaina with high elves being sidekick, sme thing in legion now it is high elves

literally not you show is story development and story going forward, all the time they are random and irrelevant npcs who barely make difference

The void elves at lest show up in undercity and save the alliance ass, and have story going foward with the theme of the void lords

Sure thing. They are only NPCs, that's very true. Same as the other characters ingame that is not played by a human being.

[Syegfryed]

Sure thing. They are only NPCs, that's very true. Same as the other characters ingame that is not played by a human being.

like i say: they are not meaningful or prominent npcs, they barely matter, if they were there or not the story would go the same, no development, no story going forward, nothing

The minimal thing they had in tbc and wtlk is no way close to claim they "received tons of lore" and are "the most prominent race of the alliance despite humans"

[Doffen]

like i say: they are not meaningful or prominent npcs, they barely matter, if they were there or not the story would go the same, no development, no story going forward, nothing

The minimal thing they had in tbc and wtlk is no way close to claim they "received tons of lore" and are "the most prominent race of the alliance despite humans"

Well we are several here that disagree with you. Whos most correct? Who knows I guess. We'll never agree on it anyway.

[Deleted]

like i say: they are not meaningful or prominent npcs, they barely matter, if they were there or not the story would go the same, no development, no story going forward, nothing

The minimal thing they had in tbc and wtlk is no way close to claim they "received tons of lore" and are "the most prominent race of the alliance despite humans"

Oh, they are deleting majority of the playable races soon? Interesting.

[Syegfryed]

Oh, they are deleting majority of the playable races soon? Interesting.

last time i check marjory of the playable races have meaningful or prominent npcs and have a story going forward, the only exception was gnomes and they had in bfa

so

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Well we are several here that disagree with you. Whos most correct? Who knows I guess. We'll never agree on it anyway.

people still disagree that blood elves re high elves, so i say they are not correct

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last time i check marjory of the playable races have meaningful or prominent npcs and have a story going forward, the only exception was gnomes and they had in bfa

so

Was it on some private server that you checked? Bad, bad boy!

[Starla]

1) Not personally seen any of that talk and I don't condone it.

2) I don't hate Blood elf players I have blood elves myself.

3) I currently don't have a subscription havent had one since 1st September because I really dislike what class changes happened to my fave class/spec that I had played since vanilla, also I don't find myself on the wow forums that much but yeah with no subscription no forum posting/reporting which in itself I don't really report people.

Considering you're on the discord enough I don't see how you could have missed it. Here is just one of the latest from that place from one of your fellow members:
"Here's my Blizzcon prediction
Vulpera are announced for the Horde
The next slide has a black silhouette with pointy ears
Ion teases about finally revealing the allied race we've all been waiting for
Silhouette fades to reveal the pointy ears were from a horse"
Camera pans sideways to reveal a junker gnome riding the horse
Ion gets shot on stage"

[Obelisk Kai]

Considering you're on the discord enough I don't see how you could have missed it. Here is just one of the latest from that place from one of your fellow members:
"Here's my Blizzcon prediction
Vulpera are announced for the Horde
The next slide has a black silhouette with pointy ears
Ion teases about finally revealing the allied race we've all been waiting for
Silhouette fades to reveal the pointy ears were from a horse"
Camera pans sideways to reveal a junker gnome riding the horse
Ion gets shot on stage"

I laughed though. This is just black humor.

[Thalassian Bob]

Oh no! Someone resurrected this beast?

Come on, guys. With golden eyes on Sin'dorei and creative void elf transmogs, isn't it time to let the ship sink...? Pic related.


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[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Oh no! Someone resurrected this beast?

Come on, guys. With golden eyes on Sin'dorei and creative void elf transmogs, isn't it time to let the ship sink...? Pic related.


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Oh my god that's my mage's mog.

I did change it for a casual traveling gear currently, cowls do wonders to forget your whole head is blue. Full covering armor sets are real allies for people that want to be HE lol.

[FlubberPuddy]

Oh no! Someone resurrected this beast?

Come on, guys. With golden eyes on Sin'dorei and creative void elf transmogs, isn't it time to let the ship sink...? Pic related.


(Click to enlarge!)

I can understand the sentiment, "oh cmon guys it's not 100% what you want, but close enough. Can't always have everything perfect."

Complete understanding of that. Also I understand that most of the conversation has devolved into whether High Elves are relevant on the Alliance. Which of course is something subjective in its own right.

To the first point: Yes, right now. If you absolutely want to "make believe you're a High Elf" then you have 2 choices (Blood Elf or Void Elf). Some people have to understand though, that at the same time, neither of these choices are acceptable enough to some High Elf fans.

It's just like being told if you wanna play a Mag'har, well the Green Orcs are there, indeed they are some physiologically Mag'har, but still the same Orcs with the same culture, just under 1 banner instead of multiple.

I think people are way too focused on the model. I'm sure I'm not the only one who is okay with waiting for the Alliance High Elves to get more development and changes if that's what it takes to have them become viable as being a playable Allied Race. I'll continue enjoying the game, it has no effect there. But I'll also continue to say I'd like High Elves added if Blizzard continues to have them appear alongside the Alliance (which currently they are doing).

Not gonna make constant threads or w/e, but being able to actually play the race you really want is something I'm sure tons of people appreciate very much.

For instance imagine if Dark Irons never released and people just told you to make that Dwarf that has the one charcoal skin tone and red eyes. "There ya go there's your Dark Iron Dwarf!!" except it has none of the story/culture/beliefs that comes from actually being a Dark Iron.

This is the same situation the High Elf fans are in. Blood Elves may carry the similar looks of a High Elf but aren't one from a cultural standpoint. Void Elves may be on the Alliance, but neither carry the similar looks nor the culture of Alliance High Elves.

So trying to say that people should be okay with the options presented is unfulfilling. Regular Dwarves had the skin/eye color of a Dark Iron, yet they got added as a full-fledged Allied Race and their looks/cuztomization were improved upon.

Threads like this one only aim to do the same thing: Show Blizzard there is still a desire for this Alliance race.

Whether people want to come in here and bash the idea or users, that's on them. The idea and desire itself still stands, and someone like me who really wishes to one day play as a High Elf on Alliance has to wait for more changes/development to occur to them then so be it.

I'd rather wait for Blizzard to get something 100% right than come out with, in my opinion, something shallow like Void Elves as a stand-in for the High Elf requests.

That isn't to say people can't enjoy these races, obviously they're here and players can and good on them. Doesn't dismiss the desire that's been a long time request though as I see it.

[Thalassian Bob]

Oh my god that's my mage's mog.

I did change it for a casual traveling gear currently, cowls do wonders to forget your whole head is blue. Full covering armor sets are real allies for people that want to be HE lol.

You're clearly a man of taste then!

Haha! Cowls and helmets do definitely work wonders! I made a Silver Covenant counterpart to Aethas Sunreaver mog and I think head-covering works pretty well to make my character look like they could be any Thalassian (blood, high or void) and the tabard does the talking in regards to allegiance.

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An articulate and fleshed out response. While I personally don't like Alliance-aligned high elves because of their political choices and am fine with them not being in the game, when someone makes a point as clearly as yours, I can sympathise with someone who wants them in the game but that desire is left unfulfilled. I can also see how stand-ins that come close to the mark might make that yearning even worse.

I'd love to have a playable Wildhammer. I've wanted them in game for a long time, but with the addition of Dark Iron dwarves (who I had no interest in), I imagine that will make the addition of playable Wildhammer even less likely. So, I feel your pain to some degree.

[FlubberPuddy]

An articulate and fleshed out response. While I personally don't like Alliance-aligned high elves because of their political choices and am fine with them not being in the game, when someone makes a point as clearly as yours, I can sympathise with someone who wants them in the game but that desire is left unfulfilled. I can also see how stand-ins that come close to the mark might make that yearning even worse.

I'd love to have a playable Wildhammer. I've wanted them in game for a long time, but with the addition of Dark Iron dwarves (who I had no interest in), I imagine that will make the addition of playable Wildhammer even less likely. So, I feel your pain to some degree.

I appreciate the middle-ground. And yes for your Wildhammer example it does. That goes for every and all races where Blizzard comes out with something similar that doesn't quite hit the mark for the races that someone wanted. Forest Trolls are another example. Broken Draenei another (due to Lightforged Draenei).

WoW has tons of old fan favorite races, I'm really surprised Blizzard went with a lot of pretty new ones vs the many that have been around. Guess they're trying to balance "Old" vs "New" races. Hopefully, with enough time, people get to the play the ones they truly desire.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

You're clearly a man of taste then!

Haha! Cowls and helmets do definitely work wonders! I made a Silver Covenant counterpart to Aethas Sunreaver mog and I think head-covering works pretty well to make my character look like they could be any Thalassian (blood, high or void) and the tabard does the talking in regards to allegiance.

Oh indeed that's the mog I'm targetting on my elf mage, still missing some pieces, but I am really enjoying his casual mog even if I can still see his face (I'm mostly okay with it cause of the beard)



For my warrior, I'm targeting the Tier 3 warfront armor, it just screams alliance, and the helm it's pretty dope!

[Andromedes]

This pic shouldnt exist, because i cant see clear distinction between void elf and blood elf, and as we know, we got void elves instead of high elves, because they are different enough, so they arent bluring faction lines.

[Thalassian Bob]

I appreciate the middle-ground. And yes for your Wildhammer example it does. That goes for every and all races where Blizzard comes out with something similar that doesn't quite hit the mark for the races that someone wanted. Forest Trolls are another example. Broken Draenei another (due to Lightforged Draenei).

WoW has tons of old fan favorite races, I'm really surprised Blizzard went with a lot of pretty new ones vs the many that have been around. Guess they're trying to balance "Old" vs "New" races. Hopefully, with enough time, people get to the play the ones they truly desire.

Might be a long wait, but there's always a chance.

Oh indeed that's the mog I'm targetting on my elf mage, still missing some pieces, but I am really enjoying his casual mog even if I can still see his face (I'm mostly okay with it cause of the beard)

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/PqEYoOQ.jpg[/IG]

For my warrior, I'm targeting the Tier 3 warfront armor, it just screams alliance, and the helm it's pretty dope!

I like it, dude.

Yeah, I really like the tache + beard options for void elves. I'd really like to see blood elves get some similar facial hair options eventually.

The Warfront plate is awesome, yes!

This pic shouldnt exist, because i cant see clear distinction between void elf and blood elf, and as we know, we got void elves instead of high elves, because they are different enough, so they arent bluring faction lines.

Hehe! I guess it's about the difference "on the inside"!