Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Schizoide]

Skipping the flamewar that popped up, I just found this thread and have got to say the OP is extremely talented! I love his high elf concepts.

[Kithelle]

Skipping the flamewar that popped up, I just found this thread and have got to say the OP is extremely talented! I love his high elf concepts.

Yup, it's a shame...all of the trash allowed on here when it's in the name of admin agendas.

Is a really interesting and cool post the OP made but since this is a Horde favoring forum people are allowed to shit on ideas made that favor the Alliance.

[RangerDaz]

Yup, it's a shame...all of the trash allowed on here when it's in the name of admin agendas.

Is a really interesting and cool post the OP made but since this is a Horde favoring forum people are allowed to shit on ideas made that favor the Alliance.

I don't think this is Horde or Alliance favoring forum, because i believe that many people here play in both factions, me included, if not the big majority.

The ideas are really cool indeed. I never cared for high elves in alliance as there are so many other new and different races that could become allied races, but after seeing the ranger themed high elf i changed my mind... Give me my high elf ranger hunter! (and my San'layn warlock or death knight as well, now that we are asking for new elven races...).

[Syegfryed]

In Warcraft magic usually means Arcane magic so that's what I meant.

magic is all magic

if the idea os of then being rangers and warriors not dabbling with magic, they should not use any magic

[Mehrunes]

its the silver covenant concept who are not silver covenant, some kind of paradox

Yeah, good point. @Ramz is right that they look more like Wildhammers. Which would fit Quel'Danil Lodge much more. And even then, those High Elves officially joined the Alliance only in Cata and back then were still normal-looking. There hasn't been enough time for them to go full Wildhammer. Especially since even most Wildhammers don't go full Wildhammer. And there's just one building worth of them. I know Void Elves aren't numerous but this would be scraping a barrel.

Fuck OFF leave me alone and stop quoting me, I have already backed out of responding in these threads DO NOT QUOTE ME YOU ARGUMENTATIVE PIECE OF SHIT.

Have you backed out of responding there wouldn't have been a post for me to reply to, don't you think? And I swear you said something about putting me on ignore to make yourself look high and mighty (for at least a third time). If that was the case, you wouldn't have noticed me quoting you so quickly, nor would me quoting you be that much of a problem for you.

And walk me through your thought process here. You feel free to talk shit about me and Obelisk Kai, but I can't even reply to you? Hint: only one of those actions is against the rules and it's not replying to people. So I think I'll pass on following your "order" since you have no power over me. Also, given how you are constantly accusing other people of being toxic, you're throwing nukes in glass houses.

Yup, it's a shame...all of the trash allowed on here when it's in the name of admin agendas.

Is a really interesting and cool post the OP made but since this is a Horde favoring forum people are allowed to shit on ideas made that favor the Alliance.

Admin agendas? Wat? First of all, disagreeing with something isn't shitting on it (even if the subject of disagreement is an idea that favor the Alliance!). Secondly, disagreeing with the premise does not equal disliking the artwork itself. Thirdly, back to the admins bit, sorry to burst your bubble but contrary to your conspiracy theories, there's no grand HORDE BIAS plot to kill all the Alliance players and admins on MMO-C aren't assassins hired by Blizzard.

[DaHomieG]

Finally a "we want high elves" thread that isn't just whining and crying, but actually gives ideas on how to implement them and does it really well. Really love the WC2-style tattoo idea. Good job OP

[Deleted]

I just created this MMO-C account to say my feedback of all these high elven shenanigans.

You, unpleasant persons, what a fucking stupid and unhappy stupidity you're writing here, dammit. Stop asking for high elf shit because the blizzard itself said it will not happen, said high elves are extinct and said the high elves are playable in the Horde! IN. THE. HORDE.

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You acting like a bunch of motherless children, come here to speak of these baseless dumbbells. Look at the images in the main post? It's the worst drawing I have saw in my life. Hope I'll not have a disease in my eyes.

How many people agree with a stupidity made High Elves? 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of WoW players?

Stop with all that headcanon, stop that stupid High Elf. Stop asking for Horde content in the Alliance. Imagine that disgrace would be playable "High Elves". High Elves are 45% of the Horde's population, if they place High Elves, it will be 70% of the Horde players moving to the Alliance. Besides a dumb idea will destroy the game forever.

It makes no sense this retcon of High Elves in the Alliance. Go learn lore, or rather, get a girlfriend!

STOP IT!

Incidentally, I would like to thank Syegfryed for his amazing participation, and for many others, TRYING to stop this retarded stupidity.

[Arenchac of Suramar]

Woah. When I first saw this thread a while back before all the updates, I thought the concepts looked a little lazy and it was just a repeat of something we've heard a million times. But with all these updates and new suggestions, I'm actually really on board with this idea. It looks well thought out and genuinely distinct from just Blood Elves with blue eyes.

[Traveler Voltin]

Did somebody say flamewar?

[Kithelle]

I don't think this is Horde or Alliance favoring forum, because i believe that many people here play in both factions, me included, if not the big majority.

The ideas are really cool indeed. I never cared for high elves in alliance as there are so many other new and different races that could become allied races, but after seeing the ranger themed high elf i changed my mind... Give me my high elf ranger hunter! (and my San'layn warlock or death knight as well, now that we are asking for new elven races...).

Well all I know is I got infracted and a ban for calling someone a Horde fanboi in a post, where someone in the same thread called me a Alliance fanboi and didn't get infracted.

[Caaethil]

I'm not against it entirely, but considering Allied Races are working on a budget and we're only ever getting a limited number, I'd rather something more unique than another alliance belf model to go with void elves. By which I don't mean to say this is just the same as blood elves, just that I want something with a different base model+animations, like sethrak.

In an alternate universe where void elves don't exist and the Alliance doesn't have any allied races using the belf model, I'd be totally on board with this.

[Obelisk Kai]

Yup, it's a shame...all of the trash allowed on here when it's in the name of admin agendas.

Is a really interesting and cool post the OP made but since this is a Horde favoring forum people are allowed to shit on ideas made that favor the Alliance.

Again, this isn't about Horde players being against ideas that favour the Alliance.

This about Horde players taking a justified exception to Alliance players coveting the Horde's most popular race. And no matter how much woad the OP lathers on the model, it's still a High Elf. Which is a Blood Elf, confirmed via word of god.

If you want to play the Horde's most popular race, you should have to play Horde. That is not an unreasonable stance. If I want to play a Human, the Alliance's most popular race, I have to play Alliance.

If you think that Blizzard has a pro Horde bias, maybe you shouldn't define success as getting access to a carbon copy of a Horde race? Perhaps try for something reasonable like Mecha Gnomes, Half Elves, Night Elf Worgen or anything in the entirety of Azeroth or Draenor that is currently NOT a part of the Horde. You might find Blizzard a lot more responsive to those sorts of suggestions rather than continually wasting your energy on something that is simply never going to happen, ESPECIALLY in a post Void Elf WoW.

[Sorrior]

Not that I dislike the aesthetic,

but high elves aren't wood elves. They're high elves. And they're definitely not Asrai.


On a different note, here's another idea: The High Elves all die and are raised into undeath and we get that as an Allied Race for the Horde! Why do they decide to join the Horde? Don't know, but it certainly would kill two birds with one stone.

The look DOES kinda already work as many(even the OP have said) it is basically their old WC2 look

[Syegfryed]

The look DOES kinda already work as many(even the OP have said) it is basically their old WC2 look

dost not work because th wc2 look belongs to the rangers/farstriders who are horde, the silver covenant are maarjory mages who have nothing( or barely nothing) to do with that

[corebit]

Yup, it's a shame...all of the trash allowed on here when it's in the name of admin agendas.

Is a really interesting and cool post the OP made but since this is a Horde favoring forum people are allowed to shit on ideas made that favor the Alliance.

I play Alliance and I'm heavily against the idea of High Elves. Did I blow your mind?

High Elves as a playable race DO NOT favor the Alliance at all. You are just too blind to see the implications. Their very concept revolves around re-using the Blood Elf player model (which the Alliance already has BTW), and adding small details like blue eyes and and maybe some tattoos. It can't be anything major because the major difference between HElves and BElves is ideological, not physical.

Then it would take up an allied race slot that should go to more deserving races (more unique and diverse models, hello?), not to mention that Alliance get TWO freaking blood elf models. Then either it's the VElves or the Helves who become redundant not only in gameplay but in lore. Pick one.

Let's say you whiners got your wish, and then Blizzard gave the Horde a completely new model for an Allied race. I would bet real dollars you people would completely forget about High Elves and immediately start whining "Horde bias" again.

Also all these HElf ideas are starting to go into shitty fanfic territory. Celtic Braveheart elves? Blue dragonflight druid forms? Like WTF, at least respect the current lore before throwing out outrageous shit that Blizzard will never ever consider.

TLDR: Stop your stupid HElf ideas, and stop pretending you speak for everyone who plays Alliance. You're welcome.

[Lumineus]

Well I dunno what amazing and original idea for a race you think they're going to do instead. Not when they're already wasting one of our slots to prototype Ogres for the Horde. Probably about the only interesting thing they could have done on a budget is to have Alliance Orcs led by Saurfang. Would have been totally memeworthy and melted the battle.net servers, but it would have been interesting!

Also, you probably shouldn't play the "but I'm Alliance too!" card so much when your own post history outs you as an old guard Horde player. If the Alliance is more appealing to you now then that's a clear sign that things as they stand are fucked up.

[Hitei]

dost not work because th wc2 look belongs to the rangers/farstriders who are horde, the silver covenant are maarjory mages who have nothing( or barely nothing) to do with that

This, honestly. The Silver Covenant has very little to do with the "wood elf" hunter-ranger identity. Their aesthetic is firmly Alliance/Kirin Tor, Alleria is really the only one with the old look.




You can even see in their crest that their identity is about clean, Alliance colors and tasteful traditional "elven" elegant armor. Not about rolling around in the dirt, tying feathers to everything and looking vaguely druidic.

[Lumineus]

It's only "Silver Covenant" instead of "High Elves" because of "hurr durr Blood Elves are High Elves" spam from previous threads. But the aesthetic is drawn from WC2 concept art, which obviously the in game faction is not going to reflect when they're just reusing old Mage tier assets. Surely you don't think Aldor Raiment, a set which is supposed to represent Draenei Priests (yet somehow is Mage-exclusive armor) is how High Elven rangers really look?

[Hitei]

It's only "Silver Covenant" instead of "High Elves" because of "hurr durr Blood Elves are High Elves" spam from previous threads. But the aesthetic is drawn from WC2 concept art, which obviously the in game faction is not going to reflect when they're just reusing old Mage tier assets. Surely you don't think Aldor Raiment, a set which is supposed to represent Draenei Priests (yet somehow is Mage-exclusive armor) is how High Elven rangers really look?

It's Silver Covenant instead of "High Elves" because the Silver Covenant are the noteworth faction of High Elves that are already part of the Alliance and the painfully obvious place that any High Elf alied race would be coming from.

The in-game faction could easily have reflected that WC2 aesthetic if they wanted to. There are plenty of druid-y, rustic looking hand made armor sets in the game, assets that have existed since day 1. They deliberately didn't go that route, because it was a look none of the High Elves used post WC2. They aren't hunter-gatherers living in trees. They are High Elves, descended from the nobles of the Kaldorei empire and their entire history and cultural identity is steeped in magecraft.

Surely you understand that when they picked those sets to use for High Elven Rangers, they had literally hundreds of armor sets and pieces to choose from and picked those ones, because they are what best showed how those rangers look.

Unless these High Elves are a hidden tribe who was saved by the Wildhammer, and decided to dress like them, there's no reason for this aesthetic.

[FlubberPuddy]

Again, this isn't about Horde players being against ideas that favour the Alliance.

This about Horde players taking a justified exception to Alliance players coveting the Horde's most popular race. And no matter how much woad the OP lathers on the model, it's still a High Elf. Which is a Blood Elf, confirmed via word of god.

If you want to play the Horde's most popular race, you should have to play Horde. That is not an unreasonable stance. If I want to play a Human, the Alliance's most popular race, I have to play Alliance.

If you think that Blizzard has a pro Horde bias, maybe you shouldn't define success as getting access to a carbon copy of a Horde race? Perhaps try for something reasonable like Mecha Gnomes, Half Elves, Night Elf Worgen or anything in the entirety of Azeroth or Draenor that is currently NOT a part of the Horde. You might find Blizzard a lot more responsive to those sorts of suggestions rather than continually wasting your energy on something that is simply never going to happen, ESPECIALLY in a post Void Elf WoW.

Most of the people asking for High Elves aren't trying to have, "Horde's most played race." Are the Silver Covenant a part of the Horde? Are the Highvale part of the Horde? Are the Allerian Stronghold Elves, or the ones in Stormwind or Dalaran part of the Horde?

Do you people who say things like "Horde's most played race" understand how much High Elves show up on Alliance side quests/stories? o_O People are asking for their own, already Alliance-aligned, High Elves.

What's ironic is that we did in-fact get "Horde's most played race" just doused with purple-goo, yet most of you seem to be okay with that. Let me ask you this, if they were change the model appearance of "Blue eyed Blood Elves" (as you all seem to put it) would you still have an issue with a race calling themselves, "High Elves" being added as an Alliance playable race? I'm talking model change, like how Zandalari use Night Elf skeleton but are completely different - that level of change.

dost not work because th wc2 look belongs to the rangers/farstriders who are horde, the silver covenant are maarjory mages who have nothing( or barely nothing) to do with that

This, honestly. The Silver Covenant has very little to do with the "wood elf" hunter-ranger identity. Their aesthetic is firmly Alliance/Kirin Tor, Alleria is really the only one with the old look.




You can even see in their crest that their identity is about clean, Alliance colors and tasteful traditional "elven" elegant armor. Not about rolling around in the dirt, tying feathers to everything and looking vaguely druidic.

Then why are both Farstriders and Silver Covenant pledging themselves to helping during the Hunter Campaign if Silver Covenant are "very little ranger identity" do they do the same for the Mage Campaign?


Skip to 1:52, is where both Silver Covenant and Farstriders are pledging themselves to the Hunter cause.

EDIT: 4:02 is where Nobbel talks about how elves are represented by Night Elves, Blood Elf Farstriders, Silver Covenant Rangers, etc.