Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Alixie]

I mean, yeah, Gnomes have a whole host of issues...

>Transmog too small
>Drowning in a puddle
>Getting LoS as a caster by 1 f-ing step
>No one takes you seriously (until you kick their butt at something)

But they have their fans, and I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than 2%. Especially with their new junker/cyborg looks.

Anyway, as for helfs? *shrug* Anything is possible. Wishing for something and keeping it in the public conscious will get you all closer.

Well, that's why I said they're gimmicky. I like Gnomes, but I dont want more one for all of those reasons listed above and more. Weapons either too small or clip into the ground. Are considered a joke race in lore, if they ever get any lore. I retired my precious Gnome mage for a Void Elf mage, and WOW. So many transmog options opened up for me as the other cloth users I have have their own gimmicks. Draenai and Worgen have stupid goat legs that make pants and boot transmogs look terrible. Junker Gnomes have the same problems as regular gnomes, but with even more gimmicks. Robot arms and legs that presumably will always be exposed like Forsaken bones, making transmog even MORE limited because it would be limited to tophats and the torso.


They'd also be a rehash of regular Gnomes. More techno-shit made for punting or slam dunking. Like Lightforged Draenai, they dont bring anything new, unlike a nature centric race like High Elves. Holier Draenai, and gnomier Gnomes. And High Elves and Silver Covenant arent considered a joke race with a joke background.

[Twinbros2]

People shouldn't ask for customization options to make them look more like High Elves. They'd still be Void Elves with Void Elf racials. They wouldn't have their own racial mount and they wouldn't have their own racial heritage armor. High Elves need to be its own Allied Race.

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She's not a Void Elf. She's just a High Elf with the power of a Dark Naaru.

I'm alright with them adding High Elf customization options to Void Elves, but I agree that they should be their own allied race with racial mount, heritage armor the works. But until then, giving Void Elves the blond hair and flesh tone skin is a step in the right direction, and once that is done, they really wont have any reason NOT to add High Elves as their own allied race. Think about it, if Void Elves get these customizations, High Elves as an allied race is almost a sure bet.

[Beloren]

I'm alright with them adding High Elf customization options to Void Elves, but I agree that they should be their own allied race with racial mount, heritage armor the works. But until then, giving Void Elves the blond hair and flesh tone skin is a step in the right direction, and once that is done, they really wont have any reason NOT to add High Elves as their own allied race. Think about it, if Void Elves get these customizations, High Elves as an allied race is almost a sure bet.

Or the final nail.

[Twinbros2]

Or the final nail.

Either way I get what I want, sure I would prefer them as a separate ally race, but I'm fine with having my blond hair flesh tone skin elf too

[Xath]

I mean, yeah, Gnomes have a whole host of issues...

>Transmog too small
>Drowning in a puddle
>Getting LoS as a caster by 1 f-ing step
>No one takes you seriously (until you kick their butt at something)

But they have their fans, and I'm willing to bet it's a lot more than 2%. Especially with their new junker/cyborg looks.

Anyway, as for helfs? *shrug* Anything is possible. Wishing for something and keeping it in the public conscious will get you all closer.

It's around 2.4% gnomes and dwarfs have the "honor" of being the only original races passed by an allied race at 120. Junker gnomes aren't going to do anything to close the faction gap and may in fact accelerate it as more alliance players realize blizzard just doesn't care about the faction.

[Byleth]

It's around 2.4% gnomes and dwarfs have the "honor" of being the only original races passed by an allied race at 120. Junker gnomes aren't going to do anything to close the faction gap and may in fact accelerate it as more alliance players realize blizzard just doesn't care about the faction.

Everything you said sounds ridiculous to me. Go on with enjoying your terrible opinion

[derpkitteh]

It's around 2.4% gnomes and dwarfs have the "honor" of being the only original races passed by an allied race at 120. Junker gnomes aren't going to do anything to close the faction gap and may in fact accelerate it as more alliance players realize blizzard just doesn't care about the faction.

aren't goblins less played than gnomes even?

i heard that anyway.

but anyway, i think it's dumb that velves will get the helf skin, because i think it should have been that way from the start. i don't think the purple mutants should have been what was made playable. just made no lore sense at all, and hurt the population argument for any race going forward.

[Xath]

Everything you said sounds ridiculous to me. Go on with enjoying your terrible opinion

What I said isn't opinion it's fact check realm pop.

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And the reason you didn't get void elves is because blizzard doesn't want to take a Horde race, slap blue eyes on it and give it to you.

Yet they took an alliance race and altered the idle stance and called it good :thinking:

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aren't goblins less played than gnomes even?

i heard that anyway.

but anyway, i think it's dumb that velves will get the helf skin, because i think it should have been that way from the start. i don't think the purple mutants should have been what was made playable. just made no lore sense at all, and hurt the population argument for any race going forward.

Unsure as to that but Goblins Worgen Pandas and even blood elves and space goats are not original races. All of the hordes original races are well above all allied races only the alliance has the "honor" of having not just one but two of their original races below an allied race.

[Alixie]

aren't goblins less played than gnomes even?

i heard that anyway.

but anyway, i think it's dumb that velves will get the helf skin, because i think it should have been that way from the start. i don't think the purple mutants should have been what was made playable. just made no lore sense at all, and hurt the population argument for any race going forward.

According to this website, Goblins are 2% of the population, and Gnomes are 3%. http://warcraftrealms.com/census.php It just seems stupid and a waste of time to add a recolor of a joke race that almost nobody plays. Most people like the normal humanoid models the best on both fractions. They (humans and elves) dont have weird squashed or stretched bodies, or stupid gimmicks like hooves, troll feet, goat legs, tusks and muzzles, torn clothes, or goofy proportions.

Just imagine if Gilbins and Mechanognomes are supposed to be the BIG HYPE of the next allied races. lmao.

[Doffen]

Just imagine if Gilbins and Mechanognomes are supposed to be the BIG HYPE of the next allied races. lmao.

Indeed. This have been my point too. Doesn't seem to be the right time to release those as the next Allied Race, even though it surely points in that direction with Mechagone and Nazjatar in 8.2. I would guess now, in times like these it would be wise to release other races which seems more requested and more popular.

I could see them do some customization like adding choices for gnomes and goblins instead. I got the idea that Mekkatorque will be "saved" by adding some mechanical devices so he gets out of the freezing situation he will be in the next patch. So he gets "mechanized" and that leads to new customizations for the Gnomes, instead of making a whole new raceslot for them.

[derpkitteh]

According to this website, Goblins are 2% of the population, and Gnomes are 3%. http://warcraftrealms.com/census.php It just seems stupid and a waste of time to add a recolor of a joke race that almost nobody plays. Most people like the normal humanoid models the best on both fractions. They (humans and elves) dont have weird squashed or stretched bodies, or stupid gimmicks like hooves, troll feet, goat legs, tusks and muzzles, torn clothes, or goofy proportions.

Just imagine if Gilbins and Mechanognomes are supposed to be the BIG HYPE of the next allied races. lmao.

yeah, it really does feel like a bit of a waste of an allied race.

vulpera seem actually ok compared to either of these.

[Byleth]

What I said isn't opinion it's fact check realm pop.

I was of course referring to your terrible junker gnome opinion.

I acknowledge the realm pop part.

[Beloren]

Either way I get what I want, sure I would prefer them as a separate ally race, but I'm fine with having my blond hair flesh tone skin elf too

But I thought that defeats the point because having high elves is not about the skin, but about the whole philosophy and race?

[Evilfish]

It is but let's face it if Blizz is to offer us anything it's only going to be more compromises in the form of more skins for Void Elves and they'll still look awfull turning purple unless they allow for players to turn off that abominative state.

It's funny, sounds like the stuff being said before they announced Velfs.

But you know what is gonna happen? The same people will cry how they are still not Helfs and will request another thing and another.

[Obelisk Kai]

But I thought that defeats the point because having high elves is not about the skin, but about the whole philosophy and race?

If you actually thought that, you weren't paying attention. While there a few people for whom their interpretation of the lore is the basis for their desire, the demand for these customization 'options' is clear proof that it is, always has been and always will be about the look for most people.

[Evilfish]

Because at the end of the day they only wanted plain old Vanilla High Elves not glow in the dark purple edge bois, people would have been extremely happy with that.

And before you mention faction blurring, if they are happy to think about giving Void Elves High elf asphetics that argument is alrdy debunked null and void.

Are they happy? Obviously you guys are not. And that logic is really faulty. I think the point was NOT to give the Alliance something so similar to the Belfs and that's why they made up a new race.

[Obelisk Kai]

And before you mention faction blurring, if they are happy to think about giving Void Elves High elf asphetics that argument is alrdy debunked null and void.

Afriasiabi was asked directly if High Elf customization options were possible in future and he said yes, it was possible.

Just as Ion says 'Anything is possible'.

They could add tuskarr skins to Dwarves if they wanted, that's possible too.

But the fact remains that if they were OK with granting High Elf aesthetics to the Alliance, they would have given the Alliance High Elves and not Void Elves. Void Elves are different for a reason. And IF at some point in the future they look into a High Elf 'like' customization for the Void Elves, there are a million and one ways it can go without resulting in a blonde, fair skinned, blue eyed Elf. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it was another monkey paw result.

In fact, the most solid takeaway we have from the question was Afrisiabi nodding in agreement to the Lost Codex guys saying the Void Elves fill the High Elf niche on the Alliance. As everyone outside the pro High Elf community can see was the goal and intent behind them.

[Evilfish]

Again fallacy, they were happy to give the Horde night elves with a different idle stance and now they're happy to give the alliance High elf themed skins for their Void elves though its not really what I wanted personally fuck it Blizzard only seems to want to compromise as not to upset Horde players even though what the fuck it has to do with them is beyond you and me.

Typical helfisht bullshit.

First of all the NB elves are not Nelfs as much as Belfs are Velfs and evidently since they can't be light-skinned that's why you complain.

Second, trying to shoo off Horde players claiming that the cloning of one of their race down to political views in none of their business, isn't gonna get you Helfs like it has not to this point.

Blizz is trying the waters to see how people react and I say to them - fuck no.

[Obelisk Kai]

Blizz is trying the waters to see how people react and I say to them - fuck no.

I disagree that Blizzard was testing the waters. Someone asked a question about the possibility, and like Ion has said twice before anything is possible.

[Kithelle]

Again fallacy, they were happy to give the Horde night elves with a different idle stance and now they're happy to give the alliance High elf themed skins for their Void elves though its not really what I wanted personally fuck it Blizzard only seems to want to compromise as not to upset Horde players even though what the fuck it has to do with them is beyond you and me.

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I'm very inclined to agree with you on this.

It's simple...they don't want to upset their golden child...they love the Horde and it shows...and they love to troll player too...If High Elves and Blood Elves when when in all of this time have we never even gotten blue eyes as a option for Blood Elves? Yet instead they get golden eyes which takes away a little of the shine from Lightforged Draenei, because they're supposed to be all about the gold...yet you basically can't see 90% of it unless you run around in your underwear.

They just flat out hate Alliance, would have been better off if they just gave Alliance Nightborne and Horde something else...instead they wanted to troll us with not only something people didn't want...but gave us a complete asspull with no lore at all.

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*Sigh* Please refer to evidence below

Horde have Night Elves so stop trying to pass it off as bullshit because its true and stop being a selfish little child.

Especially since they went out of their way to change player NB from the original model to this...they wanted them to be like Night Elves.