Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Aldo Hawk]

Incorrect. Worshipping The Light is not a prerequisite to having golden eyes as a Blood Elf.

https://twitter.com/Moorgard/status/...462386176?s=20

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It indeed is what it is. It is a Blood Elf with blue eyes.

I can't honestly care what you call it, 'what is what' is a dead argument since it is very clear.

[matrix123mko]

I would like to share an image that someone posted on discord, I think these glowing tattoos work very well to make the eyes more visible, I like the concept.

Great art. I wish we had something like that for blood elves.

[FlubberPuddy]

That hairstyle is currently available to female Blood Elves.

You must've not noticed the extra hair bits and braided bits.

Reminds me of hair like this



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Here's another reference pic to show that all Blizzard has to do to get a "new allied race" that is High Elves without going for skin tone is changing the body proportions like they did with Nightborne.



Whereas for Void Elves they didn't even do that. Just skin color and "new hairstyles" which some people say doesn't count. Therefore only skin color.

[Varodoc]

All this talk about the many details that high elves could have, and I'm left wondering... why shouldn't void elves also have glowing tattoos and infused arms ala Thalyssra? Why should these customization options be limited to high elves?

[Starla]

Considering contact lenses were mentioned in regard to Blood elves...it's a real possibility.

[FlubberPuddy]

Hey look, it's a "Void Elf"



So I guess Blizzard shouldn't have added Void Elves because you can just roll a pale-skinned, blue-eyed Void Elf since Wrath.

Images like this show how dumb arguments like "if you want to play a High Elf just play a Blood Elf" sounds.

It also makes "Blood Elves blue eye requests" sound dumb too cuz there you already have it, just roll a DK using that earlier type of logic.

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All this talk about the many details that high elves could have, and I'm left wondering... why shouldn't void elves also have glowing tattoos and infused arms ala Thalyssra? Why should these customization options be limited to high elves?

Because the customizations are there to set the race options further apart hence why people complain about wanting Mag'har Hairstyles on their Green Orcs. But you're never going to get that because their purpose is to further the difference between the already available options.

It's why some Blood Elf male players want Void Elf male facial hair options. It's not going to happen. The differences are there to entice you.

If someone makes the argument that "you can't have fair skin elves on Alliance" then it's hypocritical to turn around and go 'wtf they should give some Male Blood Elves facial hair like the Void Elf males have! Cmon Blizzard!" (not saying you are making this argument but others against High Elves have).

[matrix123mko]

All this talk about the many details that high elves could have, and I'm left wondering... why shouldn't void elves also have glowing tattoos and infused arms ala Thalyssra? Why should these customization options be limited to high elves?

Why shouldn't blood elves have that?

[FlubberPuddy]

Considering contact lenses were mentioned in regard to Blood elves...it's a real possibility.

That's as much as a joke as the ending spiel was a platitude. As we can see with the Worgen/Goblin remakes, Eye color is still attached to certain faces. It might be something they want to do, but there's a lot of things (dance studio?) that Blizzard wants to do and still haven't.

[Varodoc]

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I don't know what game you've been playing but that looks nothing like a void elf:



Also those glowing tattoos and arms would make much more sense on void elves since there is literal magic radiating through their veins. High elves are just generic fantasy elves with nothing enticing to them. If you want high elves, you'll have the lame elves who at best possess some basic tattoos.

Why shouldn't blood elves have that?

That's my point. If high elves have that, then so should void elves and blood elves. I just didn't mention the blood elves because I couldn't give a shit about them even if I tried.

[matrix123mko]

Because the customizations are there to set the race options further apart hence why people complain about wanting Mag'har Hairstyles on their Green Orcs. But you're never going to get that because their purpose is to further the difference between the already available options.

It's why some Blood Elf male players want Void Elf male facial hair options. It's not going to happen. The differences are there to entice you.

If someone makes the argument that "you can't have fair skin elves on Alliance" then it's hypocritical to turn around and go 'wtf they should give some Male Blood Elves facial hair like the Void Elf males have! Cmon Blizzard!" (not saying you are making this argument but others against High Elves have).

We need more customisation for every race. I could stand a little homogenisation to get more options.

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Also those glowing tattoos and arms would make much more sense on void elves since there is literal magic radiating through their veins. High elves are just generic fantasy elves with nothing enticing to them. If you want high elves, you'll have the lame elves who at best possess some basic tattoos.

That's my point. If high elves have that, then so should void elves and blood elves. I just didn't mention the blood elves because I couldn't give a shit about them even if I tried.

Totally agreed but I understand why some people want boring high elves.

[FlubberPuddy]

I don't know what game you've been playing but that looks nothing like a void elf

The point was showing how nonsensical the dumbass argument of "if you wanna play a High Elf then roll a Blood Elf" is. As Allied Races are more than just outward appearances.

They come with unique racials, character customization, their own heritage armor, a small hub, a mount, and specific story.

For anyone to boil arguments down to looks is plain stupid as Allied Races are much more than that.

[Varodoc]

The point was showing how nonsensical the dumbass argument of "if you wanna play a High Elf then roll a Blood Elf" is. As Allied Races are more than just outward appearances.

They come with unique racials, character customization, their own heritage armor, a small hub, a mount, and specific story.

For anyone to boil arguments down to looks is plain stupid as Allied Races are much more than that.

Looks are a key component of allied races though. Otherwise what's stopping Blizzard from wasting allied races slots on silly things like Stromic humans or Val'sharah night elves?

[matrix123mko]

Looks are a key component of allied races though. Otherwise what's stopping Blizzard from wasting allied races slots on silly things like Stromic humans or Val'sharah night elves?

Why do we assume that slots are limited?

[Varodoc]

Why do we assume that slots are limited?

Because I'd rather not have Stromic humans as the next allied race and then have to wait months for another allied race. It's not slots that are limited, it's my time and patience.

[FlubberPuddy]

We need more customisation for every race. I could stand a little homogenisation to get more options.

More customization for every race would be nice, but not at the expense of adding more playable options. Ideally you'd have both. Hopefully Blizzard does that. One of my biggest pet peeves about MMOs is how developers tend to design with "let's have 1 choice cover a lot of themes to garner the most amount of audience we can".

It may be efficient from a resource perspective, but honestly with how many re-colors of armors/mounts/pets etc are in the game, they should start doing it with bigger things like playable races too. Which they started, with Allied Races - an amazing feature, but they need to do more.

I'm sure you would like to play a Vampire type Elf for instance and comments like this

Most of those were logical lines of thought. Before Void Elves, I would have argued Undead Elves would have been a logical Allied race, but Void Elves not fill the gothic thalassian elf niche and Undead Elves would contribute to Elf bloat. They are surplus to requirements in other words.

do not help the situation at all. Why for instance should Void Elves existence disallow Undead Elves from happening? It's like the Necromancer threads where people say play a Warlock or Unholy DK.

There's an obvious thematic that people want, and with the breadth of options we have in the game now, I think it's okay to start getting more specific. This is why DH only came with two specs, to keep the flavor of its class very unique and flavorful.

I also wouldn't mind if they literally had "one spec" classes as long as it was super flavorful. We're gone from the days where resources are limited and you need to reach the widest audience possible.

By now, there's almost something for everyone in the general categories. There's 4 elf choices, 3 human choices (4 if you count undead), and 2 of almost all the other races.

It's time for more niche and specific flavor. Just like how we have something like 20 different variations of "Mage Tier sets" and 30 reskins of certain mounts. The variety is in the game already, it's time to apply it to Classes and Races.

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Because I'd rather not have Stromic humans as the next allied race and then have to wait months for another allied race. It's not slots that are limited, it's my time and patience.

Don't worry, the next AR will not be elf or human. That'll come after the last remaining 4 AR are released. Then we'll get another round of elves hopefully.

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Looks are a key component of allied races though. Otherwise what's stopping Blizzard from wasting allied races slots on silly things like Stromic humans or Val'sharah night elves?

It's simple, you compile the patterns of what's popular that you see. Just like how in general people did want 'Big Humans' and they came as Kul'Tirans. Who are, per Afrasiabi's words 'still human'.

Your example also doesn't make sense because Val'sharah Night Elves for instance don't have any unique skins/customization nor shown to use different abilities from existing Night Elves. You can make a Night Elf and say you're from Val'sharah just like how one can make a Mag'har and say they are from Outland.

What you cannot do is make a Blood Elf and fight alongside Alliance because Alliance members will kill you (in game). Nor can you make a Void Elf and roleplay as a High Elf. It would be like rolling a Green Orc and saying "I'm Mag'har" which while you can do that makes no actual sense.

[Starla]

I agree, Blizz had no problem with giving more hairstyle options that crossed faction and race lines before. Doubtful they're concerned about customizations being there to 'set race options further apart'.

[Aldo Hawk]

Here's another reference pic to show that all Blizzard has to do to get a "new allied race" that is High Elves without going for skin tone is changing the body proportions like they did with Nightborne.



Whereas for Void Elves they didn't even do that. Just skin color and "new hairstyles" which some people say doesn't count. Therefore only skin color.

This reminds me of the three different kind of Humans from The Elder Scrolls Online.

Variations from different places.

What is being asked for High elves is for them to show off their allegiance through regalia and customization, not even changing their bodies that much unless there is a good explanation.

But yeah, who don't want it to happen will never agree so who even cares, nobody needs them at the end of the day

[FlubberPuddy]

at the end of the day

Truly, at the end of the day - the game's going to go on regardless. People will probably keep asking for High Elves just as much as people want flying back at the beginning of expansions.

It's not the make it or break it for the game basically, and neither is it for my enjoyment of the game (admittedly Classic right now).

[Alixie]

All this talk about the many details that high elves could have, and I'm left wondering... why shouldn't void elves also have glowing tattoos and infused arms ala Thalyssra? Why should these customization options be limited to high elves?

The elephant in the room is the question of "How could High Elves look different from Blood Elves?" So fans brainstorm of ways to make High Elves look visually unique. Hair styles, beard styles, skin tones, body types, tattoos, jewelry, scars, ear shapes, even classes.

I think the older, less popular races should get new custom options added before the popular elf races get anymore. Blood Elves got new gold eyes, Night Elves got new black eyes, both races have an exclusive class to share. Void Elves and Nightborne are still new. Meanwhile, Tauren only have 4 faces and hairstyles to chose from. Any new options for elves should go to a future High Elf race.

[Aldo Hawk]

Because I'd rather not have Stromic humans as the next allied race and then have to wait months for another allied race. It's not slots that are limited, it's my time and patience.

Don't be so greedy and selfish then. As I can see, you are very happy with your Void elves, do you want to step on top of other things just because you just want more and more things that are of your liking?