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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Felblood Elves specifically are defined as "Kael'thas Sunstrider's most loyal followers, who were rewarded by Kil'jaeden with the gift of being allowed to gorge themselves on demonic blood for days." The demonic blood, or Felblood, is what caused their mutation into Felblood Elves - they're draining Fel power from the captured Terrorfiends to further empower themselves (e.g. becoming elite mobs). There's a quest from IQD where the PC interrupts this feeding process by siphoning the energy away and de-powering them allowing them to be killed, also turning them into Fel Wretched in the process. The same process is used to make Demon Hunters, except they consume demonic flesh instead of demon blood and also apparently a portion of a demon's soul which, if successful, is grafted into their own and gives them greater power.

    For the Felblood Elves it appears continual consumption of Fel energy is needed after the transformation, otherwise they revert into Wretched, which explains Selin's crazed state in Magister's Terrace (as well as the number of Fel Wretched in his vicinity). The Demon Hunter conversion process is much more stable and longer-term, would seem; with noteworthy exceptions like Mannethrel Darkstar's instability.
    The demon hunter conversion involve becoming one with a demon's soul, so I suppose for them, they don't need a form of sustenance like felblood elves because they are the very core of their focus.
    If I remember correctly, the blood of demons is a highly concentrated form of fel energy, so I am wondering if it is a matter of the level of consumption, wth fel having a unique effect on physiology compared to other magical energies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    The demon hunter conversion involve becoming one with a demon's soul, so I suppose for them, they don't need a form of sustenance like felblood elves because they are the very core of their focus.
    If I remember correctly, the blood of demons is a highly concentrated form of fel energy, so I am wondering if it is a matter of the level of consumption, wth fel having a unique effect on physiology compared to other magical energies.
    Given the different natures of the transformations, it would seem there's something additional to consuming demonic substance as opposed to just the essence itself. Be it flesh, soul, or blood - the act of consuming demonic substance is an X-factor that consuming Fel energy alone is not.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by willtron View Post
    Add proper races.
    Like the newly announced Vulpera and Mechagnomes

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    *laughs in mechagnome* please insert lubricating tears in the get wrecked drive.

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    Guaranteed everyone will ignore the fact that mechagnomes have the most OP racials in the game because they're gnomes.
    Christ...they made them look so friggin good.
    I HATE gnomes...I might roll a gnome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    Guaranteed everyone will ignore the fact that mechagnomes have the most OP racials in the game because they're gnomes.
    Christ...they made them look so friggin good.
    I HATE gnomes...I might roll a gnome.
    Blizzard: "PLEASE PLAY MECHAGNOMES SO WE CAN SAY THEY'RE A SUCCESS!"
    Everyone: "No."

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    I'm legit disappointed that there seems to be no Void Elf related content on this patch so far.

    Like WHEN are they gonna do something with them??

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Covenant View Post
    Blizzard: "PLEASE PLAY MECHAGNOMES SO WE CAN SAY THEY'RE A SUCCESS!"
    Everyone: "No."
    This is why the alliance is the worse faction of the two. They can't see a good thing even if it hit them in the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    This is why the alliance is the worse faction of the two. They can't see a good thing even if it hit them in the face.
    Blizzard definitely put in a lot of resources in making Alliance Kultirans. Yet there were still people who complained that blizz hates alliance players...
    'Blizzard were not originally certain that they would be able to pull off Kul Tirans as an allied race from a technical and artistic point of view. Making a new playable race from scratch is one of the most time-consuming parts of an expansion's development, and as a result most allied races are variants of existing races. Kul Tirans are an exception to this norm, as they have a completely unique model with a new animation rig. In terms of art resources, this made them just as costly to create as, for example, the pandaren in Mists of Pandaria and more time-consuming than every other allied race combined.' https://wow.gamepedia.com/Kul_Tiran_(playable)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I'm legit disappointed that there seems to be no Void Elf related content on this patch so far.

    Like WHEN are they gonna do something with them??
    Alleria has a role in the Horrfic Vision of stormwind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Covenant View Post
    Blizzard: "PLEASE PLAY MECHAGNOMES SO WE CAN SAY THEY'RE A SUCCESS!"
    Everyone: "No."
    But they so good looking, why no?

    (btw Blizz@rdo give them good racials to makeup for amputee part)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If Tinkers had anything to do with Hunters, but they don’t. Unlike Bards which are linked to Rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I'm legit disappointed that there seems to be no Void Elf related content on this patch so far.

    Like WHEN are they gonna do something with them??
    I still think Void Elves were pulled out of the dev's asses just so that Alliance could be given the BE model all while keeping a significant aesthetic difference from BEs themselves.

    In other words, Blizzard is going to purposefully ignore them because they've already fulfilled their purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by WonderZebra View Post
    Alleria has a role in the Horrfic Vision of stormwind.
    Alleria is far from a Void Elf. She's something above them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I'm legit disappointed that there seems to be no Void Elf related content on this patch so far.

    Like WHEN are they gonna do something with them??
    But but, don't worry Void Elves are a new race! They will get fleshed out more when we deal with Void Stuff, just wait and see dammit!

    It's been clear Void Elves were an asspull with no real substance. Just like what happened with Draenei when they first came. So I guess we can expect the same amount of time before Void Elves "get fleshed out."

    Only 'new' thing I saw is that Blizzard used some NPC VE models for the 8.2.5 Wrathion quest chain, and this was their role: generic baddie NPCs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    I still think Void Elves were pulled out of the dev's asses just so that Alliance could be given the BE model all while keeping a significant aesthetic difference from BEs themselves.

    In other words, Blizzard is going to purposefully ignore them because they've already fulfilled their purpose.
    Yup, pretty much agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    This is why the alliance is the worse faction of the two. They can't see a good thing even if it hit them in the face.


    You sound like 'Alliance Person'

    https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...s_and_vulpera/

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    Quote Originally Posted by WonderZebra View Post
    Alleria has a role in the Horrfic Vision of stormwind.
    That's just a "What if" scenario. Nothing in there is real, it's kind of like End Time dungeon.

  14. #12254
    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    I'd 100% switch to Alliance if I could play a Sethrak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    I'd 100% switch to Alliance if I could play a Sethrak.
    Since all AR have an associated rep, that seems unlikely at this point (as badass as that would be). We'll have to see what hints to the final AR for BFA (if any) in 8.3 or 8.3.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I'm legit disappointed that there seems to be no Void Elf related content on this patch so far.

    Like WHEN are they gonna do something with them??
    Dude, it took them five expansions to do something with the draenei. So, roughly around patch 13.0 you might find something for the void elves.
    "Torturing someone is not an evil thing to do if it is done for good reasons" by Varodoc
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  17. #12257
    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Dude, it took them five expansions to do something with the draenei. So, roughly around patch 13.0 you might find something for the void elves.
    Nah man, Draenei at least got to star on their debut expansion before being set aside until WoD.

    Void Elves have had NOTHING. No previous relevance and no zone of their own to be introduced, NOTHING at the level other allied races have gotten. It's really appalling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Nah man, Draenei at least got to star on their debut expansion before being set aside until WoD.

    Void Elves have had NOTHING. No previous relevance and no zone of their own to be introduced, NOTHING at the level other allied races have gotten. It's really appalling.
    Yeah I wouldn't say Draenei are the best comparison.

    Worgen probably, though... dropped off into irrelevance after their starting zone and didn't feature anywhere in their debut expansion.

  19. #12259
    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
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    Thank you for proving my point. Mechagnomes have the best racials in the game currently. Alliance has the best racials actually and still people don't flock to their best races. Furthermore, Helfers =/= representative of the alliance. You already have void elves, and complaining you don't get two bite out of the Horde's apple is silly. Considering you're complaining about population, where were you back when Vanilla was a thing and the alliance outnumbered the Horde 7 to 3? Were you out there shouting that the Horde needed help?
    Let alone a 10% difference is incredibly minor

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Nah man, Draenei at least got to star on their debut expansion before being set aside until WoD.

    Void Elves have had NOTHING. No previous relevance and no zone of their own to be introduced, NOTHING at the level other allied races have gotten. It's really appalling.
    We also have in-game confirmation that every troop in that Nazmir assault perished. So all those Void Elves (among the other race's troops) are dead now such small numbers.

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