Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Aucald]

Let's keep real-world racial politics out this thread - focus on the subject of the thread, High Elves and their offshoots and their role in the fictional game setting.

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Really? I'd swear I saw somewhere that they won't but my bad if they said otherwise.

The OG races are getting expanded customization first (e.g. Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Trolls, Blood Elves, Draenei, etc. etc.) The Allied Races introduced in Legion and BfA aren't getting them immediately in Shadowlands, but probably will get new options at a later time/content patch.

[Aldo Hawk]

Even if they have no intention of making high elves playable they'd be silly to give blue eyes to blood elves. I doubt there's many blood elf fans that care to get the eye color of what is now their enemy back, and it would piss off a lot of alliance players for no good reason. It would also be confusing in-game to not have any visual difference between blood elves and all the alliance high elves around, however small it may be.

I am a Blood elf player, maining one since a decade ago, and blue eyes are a sign of the past pertaining the lore of the Blood elves.

It's their past, green eyes signify their recklessness and are their war scars, and golden eyes are a symbol of hope and future.

[Garfurion]

This is false, the sunwell gives off Holy and Arcane to sustain the blood elves so it's their right to get blue eyes back.

High Elf blue eyes do not seem to be the result of arcane energy from the original Sunwell as is clearly visible from the Warcraft 3 eleven units. The sorceress, for example doesn't have glowing blue eyes.

Why would the arcane energy from the new Sunwell be different? All we know is that Jeremy Feasel stated that Blood Elves get golden/yellow eyes from the new Sunwell.

[delus]

I guess they could give blood elves void elf eyes and void elves blood elf skin color.

[Gaexion Ramza Beoulve]

With the new race options being added do you think Blue eyes etc. will be available?

Are you willing to roll horde if you can have all the customization of a HE?

[delus]

No again Ion already said no, factions arnt going anywhere and they don't want to dilute faction identity.

And? They already indicated they might be open to giving void elves high elf like customization. Void elves have blue eyes and the same model. If they give blood elves blue eyes, there goes your precious faction separation even more.

So yeah, there would be a double standard that would need to be addressed. They could give void elves green eyes I guess considering they are former blood elves. Or they can give both sides what they want. Blood elves would still be Blood elves and Void elves would still be Void elves. They would just have similar optional customization. Anyways, it will hardly even matter as void elf dks will be almost indistinguishable from Belf dks using the pale skin color.

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Let's keep real-world racial politics out this thread - focus on the subject of the thread, High Elves and their offshoots and their role in the fictional game setting.

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The OG races are getting expanded customization first (e.g. Humans, Orcs, Dwarves, Trolls, Blood Elves, Draenei, etc. etc.) The Allied Races introduced in Legion and BfA aren't getting them immediately in Shadowlands, but probably will get new options at a later time/content patch.

Judging by how popular void elves are, I wouldn't be surprised if they were High on the list. Oh, and the problems with the nightbourne.

[FlubberPuddy]

Judging by how popular void elves are, I wouldn't be surprised if they were High on the list. Oh, and the problems with the nightbourne.

Woah, you know what. You’re onto something here.

We see them saying that they’ve already got like 40+ customizations coming to Blood Elves and obviously because they’re the most popular race in the game and horde side.

And people keep touting about how popular Void Elves are as an Allied Race and shooting up the 4th most in BFA.

I expect Void Elves getting more popular once they can become DKs as well.

So, being that the most popular race overall is getting a lot of customization.

And Void Elves are the most popular Allied Race. We can expect a lot of customization for them when they give expanded looks to Allied Races!

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Are you willing to roll horde if you can have all the customization of a HE?

If by “roll Horde” you mean am I willing to roll a Horde character that can experience any Horde exclusive content then stay parked purgatory until needed again while I spend 99% of my time on Alliance where all my friends/guilds are?

Well then yes

EDIT: Currently do this with a Hordie to unlock the Horde AR. I love having options for races.

[Aldo Hawk]

With the new race options being added do you think Blue eyes etc. will be available?

Are you willing to roll horde if you can have all the customization of a HE?

The request is for something from the Alliance to be made playable on well... The Alliance...

I don't think so. That's too shallow.

[Strippling]

Woah, you know what. You’re onto something here.

We see them saying that they’ve already got like 40+ customizations coming to Blood Elves and obviously because they’re the most popular race in the game and horde side.

And people keep touting about how popular Void Elves are as an Allied Race and shooting up the 4th most in BFA.

I expect Void Elves getting more popular once they can become DKs as well.

So, being that the most popular race overall is getting a lot of customization.

And Void Elves are the most popular Allied Race. We can expect a lot of customization for them when they give expanded looks to Allied Races!

When the time comes for ARs to receive additional customizations (though likely several years away) I'm sure void elves will have plenty of additional void themed customozation options for you and others to choose from. I'm guessing new hair styles, jewellery, void tattoos will comprise the additional options that void elves may see in future years. Fair skin options won't happen as that'll just effectively make them blood elves (aka horde high elves), and I don't see Blizzard taking away from the distinction that ARs have to their parent races.

[FlubberPuddy]

Fair skin options won't happen as that'll just effectively make them blood elves (aka horde high elves), and I don't see Blizzard taking away from the distinction that ARs have to their parent races.

We'll have to see. But that dark skin Blood Elves are apparently coming means Blizzard doesn't seem to care about the latter part of your sentence. They're not trying to be "lore appropriate" here with the choices.

Ion said, "the idea here is to give more options than ever before so that you can actually look and feel like you want to feel, and different from the others around you that play the exact same race."

He prefaced the whole Character Customization section of the What's Next panel with that statement. That last bit is important, because it means that with things like Desert and Dark Trolls coming, you're no longer 'just another blue troll'. Hence why (as said, apparently) Blood Elves are getting dark skin tones. So that you're not 'just another fair skin elf'.

And people are already (and rightfully so) wanting this increased variety of options for their Allied Races that they love. Nobody is out there saying "no don't add Dark Skin to Blood Elves, that doesn't make them a Blood Elf!" and no one is saying "Why are they adding Desert Trolls who don't look blue to Darkspear customization?!"

Frankly, because the entire idea is just, as Ion said, increasing options. They're not trying to save a specific aesthetic - this is clear with the examples they've already shown.

And the most amazing part about it is, this is just the beginning.

[elbleuet]

Keep on asking some high elf costumizations folks. We will get them in the end

[Pheraz]

And? They already indicated they might be open to giving void elves high elf like customization. Void elves have blue eyes and the same model. If they give blood elves blue eyes, there goes your precious faction separation even more.

So yeah, there would be a double standard that would need to be addressed. They could give void elves green eyes I guess considering they are former blood elves. Or they can give both sides what they want. Blood elves would still be Blood elves and Void elves would still be Void elves. They would just have similar optional customization. Anyways, it will hardly even matter as void elf dks will be almost indistinguishable from Belf dks using the pale skin color.

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Judging by how popular void elves are, I wouldn't be surprised if they were High on the list. Oh, and the problems with the nightbourne.

Exactly. Blizzard has the databases. They know how popular void Elves are. I'm pretty sure blondish hair is coming

[FlubberPuddy]

But it's not what you want is it?! It's still a Void Elf / Blood elf.

With Blizzard they always give less than you ask. So you must always for the world.

Like Wildhammer, loads wanted that as an Allied Race. Loads are okay with it coming as customization, because it's a Wildhammer Dwarf on the Alliance. Same for Desert, Dark, Blood, and presumbly Forest Trolls (I bet these green trolls will also come in Darkspear customization).

I'm gonna keep asking for my Alliance High Elves like the Silver Covenant/Alleria.

[Ignaz]

With Blizzard you don't have to expect the use of logic to implement mechanics and modifications to the game. A perfect example of this is the use of the word ''race '' to encompass the terms ''races '' and ''species ''.
Under these terms, they could put Asian humans as a playable ''race'' apart from the humans of stormwind.
The same can be with high elves being added as playable race apart from the blood elves

[Pheraz]

But it's not what you want is it?! It's still a Void Elf / Blood elf.

I would be totally fine with blonde void shades for void elf hair. Really

[Manariel]

I honestly highly doubt that at this point, High elves wont ever happen, just bite the bullet and roll Horde like Ion told us too.

Never, for it wouldn't serve it's purpose. Blood Elves aren't and won't ever be High Elves again. Never.

if he wanted people to stop calling for High Elves, he should have gave them to the Alliance, instead of half-assing it with Void Elves.

Because I see everyone and there mother saying that we'll get more Voidy looks for VE and I wonder if those saying that actually play them. Because it's common knowledge that VE players want less Voidy stuff as customization options, not more. It'd be like adding Wretched looks to BE. nobody wants that.

[Maxilian]

Never, for it wouldn't serve it's purpose. Blood Elves aren't and won't ever be High Elves again. Never.

if he wanted people to stop calling for High Elves, he should have gave them to the Alliance, instead of half-assing it with Void Elves.

Because I see everyone and there mother saying that we'll get more Voidy looks for VE and I wonder if those saying that actually play them. Because it's common knowledge that VE players want less Voidy stuff as customization options, not more. It'd be like adding Wretched looks to BE. nobody wants that.

I actually want that.... (As long as its like the arts of the Wretched not how they look in game)

That aside, is just me, or the addition to Kaelthas in this expansion is going to affect the Blood Elf and High Elf somehow? i feel like he's going to be revived for him to "solve his biggest failure", diving his people (i mean... HE was the one who created the new name and outlook of the Blood Elves)

[Ignaz]

I actually want that.... (As long as its like the arts of the Wretched not how they look in game)

That aside, is just me, or the addition to Kaelthas in this expansion is going to affect the Blood Elf and High Elf somehow? i feel like he's going to be revived for him to "solve his biggest failure", diving his people (i mean... HE was the one who created the new name and outlook of the Blood Elves)

Maybe he could become the new HE race leader

[Maxilian]

Maybe he could become the new HE race leader

I doubt he would do something like that, i mean... he created the BEs, so i see no reason for him to join the other side now, though i could see him trying to reunite his people under one banner.

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[Villager720]

Maybe he could become the new HE race leader

The guy who changed their names to blood elves, introduced fel-siphoning, sided with the Burning Legion to usher Kil’jaeden into Azeroth, and was literally kept alive by a fel-crystal through his chest ... is going to be a candidate for high elven leadership?

Wut.