Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[FlubberPuddy]

telling people this thread is a waste of time? just felt like writing it so some sane people would give up on this thread and write something useful for a change.

"Stop writing about things I don't care about, and put your own passion towards something I care about but am not passionate enough about to make any effort about it."

That's essentially what you're saying here.

Whenever I see someone come into the thread and say anything along the lines of, "wish people spent this time on X thing I care about instead of the Y thing they do and I do not." It's like wishing people would do your work for you. That's silly and not sane at all.

People can focus on what they want. Others coming in to say that people passionate about a certain topic they themselves have no care for are being incredibly ironic by stating anything along the lines of "you're wasting your time."

[delus]

Absolutely this, you have Void elves, you will NEVER get High Elves at this point because they are a core race of the Horde.

Core race, snore race. They aren't anymore valid than allied races. If you want void elves eye color, you can give up something in exchange.

[FlubberPuddy]

If you really want high elves that bad, wait till they give blood elves blue eyes in shadowlands.

People want High Elves on Alliance because there are High Elves on Alliance.

What Blood Elves get doesn't change that desire. If people simply wanted to fair-skinned elves they'd have made Blood Elves already and this request wouldn't be something that's been going on since WoW's inception.

If there are already people playing Blood Elves because they're the High Elves that Alliance didn't have before, well then Blood Elves would've had a huge drop come Void Elves on Alliance.

People play Blood Elves to play a fair-skin elf on the Horde. The faction bit is important because factions are important right?

People who want High Elves want to play a fair-skin elf on the Alliance. The faction bit is important because factions are important right?

Not really hard to grasp. Lore and stuff is important too but ultimately the biggest part of character customization is the look hence the huge customization updates coming. Just like I could now make a Mag'Har Orc and RP they're from Draenor and be happy about that.

There's a difference between doing that and making a Green Orc and RPing he's Mag'har.

[FlubberPuddy]

To be passionate on creating a race that already exist is dumb and I'm calling people out on it.

No you weren't. You were wishing they'd do something you want. Sucks for you. Go fix your own issues with the game.

[bdlovelace]

If people simply wanted to fair-skinned elves they'd have made Blood Elves already and this request wouldn't be something that's been going on since WoW's inception

no one buys this and you can tell from developments comments they dont either. its about getting pixels without having to play the faction they belong to and cant stand. because they literally have a couple portal keepers they feel entitled to a horde race without playing the horde. not going to happen

[Ignaz]

To be passionate on creating a race that already exist is dumb and I'm calling people out on it.

Nobody cares about your call, dude.

We want high elves. we have our own reasons. I'm sorry that our request is not to your liking, but that is not our fault.

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They are infinitely more valid than AR's, Blood elves will get the Blue eye's you'll see.

Even if that happens, we will continue asking for high elves as a playable race for the alliance

[Manariel]

no ones buys this and you can tell from developments comments they dont either. its about getting pixels without having to play the faction they cant stand. because they literally have a couple portal keepers they feel entitled to a horde a race without playing the horde. not going to happen

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Quel%27Danil_Lodge
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Allerian_Stronghold
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Silver_Covenant

Alliance has had High Elves as members since Vanilla in WoW. And, indeed, we don't want to have to be forced to play in a faction we can't stand, when we have High Elves in the Alliance already. they are here, they have done more to us than the Gnomes ever have or ever will. They are still fighting alongside the rest of the Alliance, in spite of their dire situation. They have played a huge part of the Pandaria Alliance story, they were a third of the armies of the mortals in Suramar.

But sure, reduce them to two portal NPCs, it truly shows how entitled Horde players, and especially BE players are. And how unable you are to even understand the reaking lore that exists.

[Manariel]

Go play blood elf brah.

They are not the same brah. Would you go and play troll to play orc ?

[delus]

Nobody cares about your call, dude.

We want high elves. we have our own reasons. I'm sorry that our request is not to your liking, but that is not our fault.

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Even if that happens, we will continue asking for high elves as a playable race for the alliance

It's really a double standard that people are asking for one of the few things that separates the faction barrier for blood elves but get upset at the thought of void elves getting concessions. Personally, I'm fine trading eye for skin color.

[bdlovelace]

Alliance has had High Elves as members since Vanilla in WoW

yes, you have. a mage trainer and a hunter type in the keep in stormwind

queldanil - are hermits

allerian stronghold - likely returned with auric, their captain, to their homeland

SC - are citizens and part of the kirin tor of dalaran

and dont forget ion outright debunking these when he said there are NO MORE alliance high elf hubs left

[Ignaz]

Go play blood elf brah.

I don't want to, and you can't force me

[Varodoc]

It wouldn't surprise me if the soldiers at Allerian Stronghold joined Alleria out of loyalty (I mean, they literally named their stronghold after her). They will most likely become Void elves if Alleria finds a way to replicate the transformation.

[Manariel]

yes, you have. a mage trainer and a hunter type in the keep in stormwind

queldanil - are hermits

allerian stronghold - likely returned with auric, their captain, to their homeland

SC - are citizens and part of the kirin tor of dalaran

and dont forget ion outright debunking these when he said there are NO MORE alliance high elf hubs left

the High Elves of the Allerian Stronghold are still all High Elves, especially Auric who represent(ed)s the Alliance at Quel'danas. Sorry that you're so wrong. Again.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Captain_Auric_Sunchaser
https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ros%27eleth

[bdlovelace]

the High Elves of the Allerian Stronghold are still all High Elves, especially Auric who represent(ed)s the Alliance at Quel'danas.

so are the blood elves

[Manariel]

so are the blood elves

No. They are not.

They were High Elves. They aren't anymore. They discarded this name. They have lost the right to use it and shape its meaning and its future.

[bdlovelace]

They have lost the right to use it and shape its meaning and its future.

its funny cause this is actually what elisande tells vereesa and the 5 elves left in her SC. that they are unworthy of the name high elf

[UnluckyAmateur]

People want High Elves on Alliance because there are High Elves on Alliance.

What Blood Elves get doesn't change that desire. If people simply wanted to fair-skinned elves they'd have made Blood Elves already and this request wouldn't be something that's been going on since WoW's inception.

If there are already people playing Blood Elves because they're the High Elves that Alliance didn't have before, well then Blood Elves would've had a huge drop come Void Elves on Alliance.

People play Blood Elves to play a fair-skin elf on the Horde. The faction bit is important because factions are important right?

People who want High Elves want to play a fair-skin elf on the Alliance. The faction bit is important because factions are important right?

Not really hard to grasp. Lore and stuff is important too but ultimately the biggest part of character customization is the look hence the huge customization updates coming. Just like I could now make a Mag'Har Orc and RP they're from Draenor and be happy about that.

There's a difference between doing that and making a Green Orc and RPing he's Mag'har.

That's nice and all but its ignoring that blood elves should have never been on the horde to begin with but that's old news. We don't need any more elves so a white skin option for void elves is probably (and hopefully) the most yall will get.

yes, you have. a mage trainer and a hunter type in the keep in stormwind

queldanil - are hermits

allerian stronghold - likely returned with auric, their captain, to their homeland

SC - are citizens and part of the kirin tor of dalaran

and dont forget ion outright debunking these when he said there are NO MORE alliance high elf hubs left

In the void elf zone, there are several high elf NPCs undergoing the ritual.

[FlubberPuddy]

That's nice and all but its ignoring that blood elves should have never been on the horde to begin with but that's old news. We don't need any more elves so a white skin option for void elves is probably (and hopefully) the most yall will get.

We didn't need anymore purple elves but we got 2 more anyway. I don''t think the devs really care. The only way people get stuff they want into the game is to keep asking for it.

Either if it's an update -> Like how the flying people keep bringing it up and getting a reinforced answer of Pathfinder staying (aka an update on the situation).

Or it gets added into the game -> like people wanting increased character customization for the existing races for a very long time. Or the return of class abilities, or reducing the rng in the game, or heck even something super huge like Classic (not saying this topic is as huge as that, just bringing up examples).

People ask and ask and ask. That's the only way to get an answer, whether it's yes or no or maybe or not right now etc etc.

Luckily for High Elves on Alliance the answer was, "Anything is possible in the future, but no plans in the near term to add High Elves as an Allied Race."

That's very different from statements like "Pathfinder is staying" which means no changes for Shadowlands. Those people will either keep asking or call it quits, and will probably get another update if its asked again.

It's also different from statements where they straight up say "No" like when asked about cross-faction grouping.

Let me just remind everyone they said something very similar for Wildhammer Dwarves. Since it looks like there's new people who prob didn't keep up with the news as it came.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-wa...-azeroth-races

"We have Dark Irons, but what about the last remaining dwarf clan, the Wildhammers?

It’s always possible, but we don’t have any immediate plans to include the Wildhammer clan."

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its funny cause this is actually what elisande tells vereesa and the 5 elves left in her SC. that they are unworthy of the name high elf

Lol, yeh and I guess Stormwind only houses 100ish people and takes 3-4 minutes to walk from one end to the other.

Btw they said all the troops for the Nazmir Alliance assault died so I guess no more Void Elves right?

[UnluckyAmateur]

We didn't need anymore purple elves but we got 2 more anyway. I don''t think the devs really care. The only way people get stuff they want into the game is to keep asking for it.

Either if it's an update -> Like how the flying people keep bringing it up and getting a reinforced answer of Pathfinder staying (aka an update on the situation).

Or it gets added into the game -> like people wanting increased character customization for the existing races for a very long time. Or the return of class abilities, or reducing the rng in the game, or heck even something super huge like Classic (not saying this topic is as huge as that, just bringing up examples).

People ask and ask and ask. That's the only way to get an answer, whether it's yes or no or maybe or not right now etc etc.

Luckily for High Elves on Alliance the answer was, "Anything is possible in the future, but no plans in the near term to add High Elves as an Allied Race."

That's very different from statements like "Pathfinder is staying" which means no changes for Shadowlands. Those people will either keep asking or call it quits, and will probably get another update if its asked again.

It's also different from statements where they straight up say "No" like when asked about cross-faction grouping.

Let me just remind everyone they said something very similar for Wildhammer Dwarves. Since it looks like there's new people who prob didn't keep up with the news as it came.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/world-of-wa...-azeroth-races

"We have Dark Irons, but what about the last remaining dwarf clan, the Wildhammers?

It’s always possible, but we don’t have any immediate plans to include the Wildhammer clan."

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Lol, yeh and I guess Stormwind only houses 100ish people and takes 3-4 minutes to walk from one end to the other.

Btw they said all the troops for the Nazmir Alliance assault died so I guess no more Void Elves right?

Don't you ultimately think that's a waste of an allied race slot though? We'd have 3 races that use the exact same rig/model/etc.

[Manariel]

Don't you ultimately think that's a waste of an allied race slot though? We'd have 3 races that use the exact same rig/model/etc.

Then have the High Elves being based on a tweaked BE/Nightfallen models, I don't know.

And even if they don't ? Well, no, I don't think. They make sense, have been requested since forever and the VE have already proven that there is nothing sacrosanct about "faction character/story" when it comes to Allied Races. Nightborns also do so, having the very birthplace of Tyrande and Malfurion as their capital, with an awful lot of ancient lore for kaldorei, being given to the Horde.