Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Obelisk Kai]

And I'd prefer just to have High Elves, but that's not the point. If the two scenarios are we either get High Elves thrown into the Void Elves, or we don't ever get playable High Elves of any kind, I will simply prefer the former. Simply as that.

But that won't work. It's not like playing a wildhammer dwarf on an existing dwarf because a wildhammer is still biologically identical to the existing dwarf and nothing on the existing dwarf contradicts it being a wildhammer.
A Void Elf that looks like a high elf is still a Void Elf. The moment you began combat and entropic embrace procced you wouldn't be able to suspend your suspension of disbelief. So it won't be a high elf on a Void Elf. It would be a Void Elf that looks like a high elf.

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To me that would be the opposite of what we're asking for. That would be erasing the high elves from Warcraft.

Which is proof that this idea of high elf like skins on void elves, which is really the last plausible option remaining, wouldn't even work for everyone.

[Frenchvince]

#speculation

Blizzard will maybe add Void Elf NPCs like Alleria, in the BE files there are eyes identical to those of the VE.




It is also another personalization option that can be accepted for void elves.

[Thalassian Bob]

Don't we have HE learning the ways of the VEs already in the VE starting zone? so we already have Ren'dorei originated from HEs

I would agree with you and say that we very probably do. But, some people in this thread are so determined to reject that notion - in the hopes that they can have a second playable Thalassian option on the Alliance - that they say that unless there is an explicit example of a high elf going through a void elf transformation in real time in-game, then it just hasn't happened yet and is probably impossible.

To me that would be the opposite of what we're asking for. That would be erasing the high elves from Warcraft.

It wouldn't be erasing high elves. It would be incorporating them into the fold of the Ren'dorei. The void elves would have within their ranks elves who "never abandoned the Alliance", elves who never "went Horde" and were never "corrupted by Fel". And people could play as one of these elves with the new starting experience in Shadowlands (and retroactively think of their existing characters that way).

After all, many high elf supporters within this thread have said that "it's not about aesthetics", it's about "allegiance", "loyalty to their friends and not blind loyalty to their race" and that they "don't just want blood elves with blue eyes on the Alliance".

Surely, for people like that, playing a void elf who was a member of the Silver Covenant wouldn't be a problem, would it? If those same people said it would be a problem, then they're proving the sceptics' point that these people do just want a near carbon copy of Horde race on the Alliance with a slight eye tweak.

[Obelisk Kai]

I would agree with you and say that we very probably do. But, some people in this thread are so determined to reject that notion - in the hopes that they can have a second playable Thalassian option on the Alliance - that they say that unless there is an explicit example of a high elf going through a void elf transformation in real time in-game, then it just hasn't happened yet and is probably impossible.



It wouldn't be erasing high elves. It would be incorporating them into the fold of the Ren'dorei. The void elves would have within their ranks elves who "never abandoned the Alliance", elves who never "went Horde" and were never "corrupted by Fel". And people could play as one of these elves with the new starting experience in Shadowlands (and retroactively think of their existing characters that way).

After all, many high elf supporters within this thread have said that "it's not about aesthetics", it's about "allegiance", "loyalty to their friends and not blind loyalty to their race" and that they "don't just want blood elves with blue eyes on the Alliance".

Surely, for people like that, playing a void elf who was a member of the Silver Covenant wouldn't be a problem, would it? If those same people said it would be a problem, then they're proving the sceptics' point that these people do just want a near carbon copy of Horde race on the Alliance with a slight eye tweak.

Absolutely spot on.

If, as seems overwhelmingly likely, void elves can turn other elves into void elves, then the possibility exists (as demonstrated by the presence of the high elven wayfarers), that among those elves so transformed are members of the Silver Covenant or even the one lodge that didn't blow itself up.

These individuals would never have called themselves Blood Elves. They would never have been Horde. They would always have maintained their allegiance to the Alliance since the days when the high elves were a proper full time member. This is apparently what the pro High Elf community has been asking for.

Yet too many in this thread refuse to acknowledge the likelihood this is the case. They argue against it. They deny it can happen. On the other hand they would be quite willing to adopt high elf like skins on Void Elves even if there wasn't an implicit acknowledgement that void elves could change other elves.

This is why when so many pro high elfers say they want a high elf for the roleplaying and for their allegiance to the Alliance, I don't believe the vast majority of them. If that were truly the case, then an avenue exists whereby they can live out that fantasy in a manner fully consistent with the game as is.

It's the aesthetic that is wanted. It always has been. The talk of allegiance is a fig leaf that sounds better than saying your upset by the skin tones Void Elves have. And if Void Elves do get something like a high elf skin tone and they declare themselves happy, I'll have been proven correct.

[Manariel]

The idea that the Silver Covenant members or the inhabitants of Quel'Danil would join the Void Elves is ludicrous for one very, little, simple, easy to forget, reason.

They turned against the Blood Elves because they used the Fel and stole the mana of living beings to sustain themselves. The High Elves of Quel'Danil even went so far as to ban the use of arcane magic altogether. I can't believe for even one second that those High Elves would then willingly let themselves be infused with so much Void energy that their physionomy would change so much. That is utterly ludicrous.

Furthermore, there is absolutely zero evidence of the Void Elves being able to transform others as they were transformed. If Blizzard wanted it, they'd have implemented even a throwaway line in Telogrus where the HE and BE would be informed that they are soon ready to undergo their transformation or something. They didn't, and nowhere else in the game is it even hinted that perhaps more elves than the original followers of Umbric would want to learn more about the Void.

[Thalassian Bob]

Absolutely spot on.

If, as seems overwhelmingly likely, void elves can turn other elves into void elves, then the possibility exists (as demonstrated by the presence of the high elven wayfarers), that among those elves so transformed are members of the Silver Covenant or even the one lodge that didn't blow itself up.

These individuals would never have called themselves Blood Elves. They would never have been Horde. They would always have maintained their allegiance to the Alliance since the days when the high elves were a proper full time member. This is apparently what the pro High Elf community has been asking for.

Yet too many in this thread refuse to acknowledge the likelihood this is the case. They argue against it. They deny it can happen. On the other hand they would be quite willing to adopt high elf like skins on Void Elves even if there wasn't an implicit acknowledgement that void elves could change other elves.

This is why when so many pro high elfers say they want a high elf for the roleplaying and for their allegiance to the Alliance, I don't believe the vast majority of them. If that were truly the case, then an avenue exists whereby they can live out that fantasy in a manner fully consistent with the game as is.

It's the aesthetic that is wanted. It always has been. The talk of allegiance is a fig leaf that sounds better than saying your upset by the skin tones Void Elves have. And if Void Elves do get something like a high elf skin tone and they declare themselves happy, I'll have been proven correct.

Mhmm. We have the high elf wayfarers in the rift and high elf sorceresses taking amicable strolls around Stormwind with void elf riftwardens, presumably shooting the breeze on all things magical and no doubt getting on to the topic of what it's like being a void elf; "Does it hurt? What does it feel like? Have you noticed an increase in your power? Just how bad are these 'whispers'?" etc. For better or worse and not always for selfish reasons, Thalassians have always been drawn to new (and often volatile and dangerous) sources of arcane power and I think the Quel'dorei we've discussed are probably no different.

But, some people in this thread refuse to humour the idea because it would give them what they claim to want but further reduce the chances of ever seeing what they actually want (blue-eyed blood elves). I'm by no means saying every pro-high elfer is this way, but I think it's a noticeable trend.

I play my own void elf the way I have suggested and I think it fits perfectly adequately into established lore. He was a magister of some renown who, after losing his family to an Amani raid, wanted to put some distance between himself and Quel'Thalas, so he went to Dalaran and joined the Kirin Tor. He aided Jaina in the fight at mount Hyjal and helped survivors of that conflict in the founding of Theramore. After hearing of the fall of Quel'Thalas, his initial instinct was to return home and aid in the reclamation efforts, but upon learning of Silvermoon's proposed alliance with the Horde - filled with former allies of the Amani and a faction of trolls as well, he was driven instead into the Silver Covenant and joined Vereesa's campaign to keep the Horde out of Dalaran. Time ticks on and the events of Legion begin, the oldest Windrunner sister returns and brings with her knowledge of new, incredible power. Power that could be used to protect Azeroth, so my mage joins the ranks of the high elf wayfarers.

Sorry about the headcanon blog segment at the end there, but I just wanted to show that it's possible to use what existing game lore (and a dev post) implies to play the characters that so many in this thread desperately yearn to play.

They turned against the Blood Elves because they used the Fel and stole the mana of living beings to sustain themselves.

The only group that this motivation explicitly applies to are the elves of Quel'Lithien and their hypocrisy killed them.

We have seen a Silver Covenant warlock, high elves who travel to Telogrus to learn of the Void and there are high elves in the ranks of the Scourge, Twilight's Hammer and Malygos' magehunters. A Thalassian still having blue eyes says nothing of their morality, it just shows that they weren't in Quel'Thalas during the reclamation after the Third War.

[Obelisk Kai]

Mhmm. We have the high elf wayfarers in the rift and high elf sorceresses taking amicable strolls around Stormwind with void elf riftwardens, presumably shooting the breeze on all things magical and no doubt getting on to the topic of what it's like being a void elf; "Does it hurt? What does it feel like? Have you noticed an increase in your power? Just how bad are these 'whispers'?" etc. For better or worse and not always for selfish reasons, Thalassians have always been drawn to new (and often volatile and dangerous) sources of arcane power and I think the Quel'dorei we've discussed are probably no different.

But, some people in this thread refuse to humour the idea because it would give them what they claim to want but further reduce the chances of ever seeing what they actually want (blue-eyed blood elves). I'm by no means saying every pro-high elfer is this way, but I think it's a noticeable trend.

I play my own void elf the way I have suggested and I think it fits perfectly adequately into established lore. He was a magister of some renown who, after losing his family to an Amani raid, wanted to put some distance between himself and Quel'Thalas, so he went to Dalaran and joined the Kirin Tor. He aided Jaina in the fight at mount Hyjal and helped survivors of that conflict in the founding of Theramore. After hearing of the fall of Quel'Thalas, his initial instinct was to return home and aid in the reclamation efforts, but upon learning of Silvermoon's proposed alliance with the Horde - filled with former allies of the Amani and a faction of trolls as well, he was driven instead into the Silver Covenant and joined Vereesa's campaign to keep the Horde out of Dalaran. Time ticks on and the events of Legion begin, the oldest Windrunner sister returns and brings with her knowledge of new incredible power. Power that could be used to protect Azeroth, so my mage joins the ranks of the high elf wayfarers.

Sorry about the headcanon blog segment at the end there, but I just wanted to show that it's possible to use what existing game lore (and a dev post) implies to play the characters that so many in this thread desperately yearn to play.

Yeah...you are currently playing a high elf variant who has always been loyal to the Alliance and was a member of the Silver Covenant. Unlike certain other suggestions, your narrative is consistent with the in game lore (and even out of game developer commentary).

I mean, thalassian elves seek magical power. It is what they do. It's the foundation of their entire race, as the pursuit of power is what led their divergence from the Night Elves. Even the post-Scourge Quel'lithien lodge was annihilated because they began messing with a magical artefact they shouldn't have, which proves that any notion they would be above such a thing is a fan construct designed to amplify the supposed 'nobility' and 'purity' of the exiles. Your high elf deciding he wanted more power, albeit to serve, is the only motivation a high elf would need to become a Void Elf.

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The only group that this motivation explicitly applies to are the elves of Quel'Lithien and their hypocrisy killed them.

We have seen a Silver Covenant warlock, high elves who travel to Telogrus to learn of the Void and there are high elves in the ranks of the Scourge, Twilight's Hammer and Malygos' magehunters. A Thalassian still having blue eyes says nothing of their morality, it just shows that they weren't in Quel'Thalas during the reclamation after the Third War.

I'd forgotten about the other groups the supposedly pure and noble high elves got mixed up in. And it's not as if the kirin tor mages were going cold turkey either, they probably had an easier time getting a hold of the arcane relics they required to stave off the pangs of the addiction.

The idea that the high elves are above using magic is a fan construct. Even the idea that the Quel'Danil lodge people banned magic is of dubious canon given it comes from the manga, the same manga that suggested Sylvanas could raise new Forsaken long before she ever met a Val'kyr.

The High Elves who remain clearly have no issue meddling with dangerous magics.

[FlubberPuddy]

The only group that this motivation explicitly applies to are the elves of Quel'Lithien and their hypocrisy killed them.

I'm unsure of this (them being the only group with that motivation) and that's because a High Elf in the Outland mentions that she's not a Blood Elf and won't suck the magic out of you.

On top of that though, frankly I think it's vague on purpose as to how many of the High Elves we see got exiled from Quel'thalas. Remember, it's said that Lor'themar did not want to lead a people divided and it's not as if the elves at Quel'Lithien are the only ones that got exiled.

Either way though, Danuser has stated they'd rather put the options out there than fuss over creating lore areas to explain why certain character options are now available and deem it enough for the players themselves to RP their canon as to why it is.

A person that say plays a Void Elf with High Elven Alleria looks can headcanon they took to learning the Void because unlike the Blood Elves usage of Fel, Alleria's teachings are all about controlling those power craving inhibitions. It fits with the Warcraft encyclopedia about how some High Elves managed to control their mana withdrawal through sheer will.

The only lost aspect would be, similar to Wildhammer Dwarves, it wouldn't necessarily be a character option that sees its story continued (unlike say Night Elf story development, Forsaken story development etc).

But yeah I agree with @MyWholeLifeIsThunder if the choice if between getting to play a form of High Elf or none at all, I will always choose the former.

They are overhauling the character creation as well upcoming with Shadowlands, so it's much more feasible that you'll be able to eventually further customize quirks of your character's look eventually. The biggest hurdle atm is getting the option in to do so in the first place (just as people are clamoring for Dragonmaw skins on Orcs, Man'ari skins on Draenei, Dark Ranger skins on Night Elves/Blood Elves, Leper skins on Gnomes, etc etc etc).

And as we see and as I've said there's further evidence after the Troll customizations that people are upset about not getting actual Forest Trolls and instead green skins on Darkspear. So people have enough mind to understand the concessions being made, and still are ok with it because they get to look the part which is the essential bit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comment...forest_trolls/

[Ardenaso]

But yeah I agree with @MyWholeLifeIsThunder if the choice if between getting to play a form of High Elf or none at all, I will always choose the former.

inb4 it's Stormwindian Human in the form of a High Elf

[Frenchvince]

https://youtu.be/mhpTlvIJ99o

I just looked because there were High elves in the title lol
I think the same thing as them.

[FlubberPuddy]

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New T&E video that includes snippet of the datamined blue eyes on Blood Elves and then they go into a funny sarcastic take on how this is what players have been asking for before revealing the shit show that it was on the forums, then Evi continues with this comment which incredibly reiterates what it is High Elf fans are asking for:

"And honestly those reactions are understandable because famously when players ask for High Elves they're specifically asking for Alliance High Elves. As can be found in their own group in the Siege of Suramar separate from the Blood Elves and Night Elves and recognized in-game, by the characters, as a different thing.

Players who want High Elves want to stand in that group whereas a Blue Eyed Blood Elf would stand in this group, so it's not the same thing.

That said it may be a little too soon to get overly upset. Don't forget, none of the customization options we've shown you here are actually in the alpha. They've been put together by, frankly some herculean efforts, Stiven from Wowhead because alpha is weird."

Then she goes on to talk about the newfound skeletons/tuskarr ids. And concludes that those options might end up in NPCs, but they'll worry about them once they actually exist in character creation.

Glad to see them continuing to put it out there towards what it is High Elf fans are asking for, while also providing the in-game footage of how even characters within the game recognize this difference. Them also saying that blue eyes on blood elves isn't going to satisfy those fans because that's not what they're asking for is another nice reiteration to put out there.

Their reach of exposure is far greater than other random videos on wow scenes so I'm glad they included the Suramar scene even though it's been there on YouTube since that cinematic came out. Should reinforce to Blizzard what it is players asking for High Elves are asking for.

[Thalassian Bob]

Yeah...you are currently playing a high elf variant who has always been loyal to the Alliance and was a member of the Silver Covenant. Unlike certain other suggestions, your narrative is consistent with the in game lore (and even out of game developer commentary).

I mean, thalassian elves seek magical power. It is what they do. It's the foundation of their entire race, as the pursuit of power is what led their divergence from the Night Elves. Even the post-Scourge Quel'lithien lodge was annihilated because they began messing with a magical artefact they shouldn't have, which proves that any notion they would be above such a thing is a fan construct designed to amplify the supposed 'nobility' and 'purity' of the exiles. Your high elf deciding he wanted more power, albeit to serve, is the only motivation a high elf would need to become a Void Elf.

I'd forgotten about the other groups the supposedly pure and noble high elves got mixed up in. And it's not as if the kirin tor mages were going cold turkey either, they probably had an easier time getting a hold of the arcane relics they required to stave off the pangs of the addiction.

The idea that the high elves are above using magic is a fan construct. Even the idea that the Quel'Danil lodge people banned magic is of dubious canon given it comes from the manga, the same manga that suggested Sylvanas could raise new Forsaken long before she ever met a Val'kyr.

The High Elves who remain clearly have no issue meddling with dangerous magics.

Yeah, people put high elves and especially Alliance-aligned high elves on a pedestal that is largely unfounded. Sure, I've no doubt there are some good high elven eggs out there, like Olisarra the Kind's name is probably well-earned and Captain Auric Sunchaser seems like a principled chap, but the Silver Covenant - an organisation that many seem to think have the sun shining out of their collective backsides as opposed to being emblazoned on their tabards - are not above murdering their kin for information and they positively leapt at the opportunity to act as Jaina's (often lethally) violent attack dogs during the Purge of Dalaran.

I'm unsure of this (them being the only group with that motivation) and that's because a High Elf in the Outland mentions that she's not a Blood Elf and won't suck the magic out of you.

On top of that though, frankly I think it's vague on purpose as to how many of the High Elves we see got exiled from Quel'thalas. Remember, it's said that Lor'themar did not want to lead a people divided and it's not as if the elves at Quel'Lithien are the only ones that got exiled.

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I'm glad you brought up Taela Everstride. Yes, she distinguishes herself from the blood elves using that framing because the first elves from back home she encounters in two decades are some of Kael's forces who are actually draining mana from sapient beings. She and others like Theloria Shadecloak rightly distance themselves from the blood elves because all they know of them to begin with relates to the actions of Kael'thas' forces. But, as time progressed, we saw that Captain Auric was willing to return to Quel'Thalas to act as the high elf representative and other elves from the Allerian Stronghold, like Ros'eleth, were willing to work alongside Farstriders and dark rangers at Trueshot Lodge. So, they obviously at some point learned that Quel'Thalas at large was not behaving like Kael's loyalists and were willing to reform some connections with Silvermoon again however tepid.

On exiling, the only high elves we know that were explicitly exiled because of a refusal to follow Silvermoon doctrine after the Third War were the elves at Quel'Lithien. Vereesa is rightly referred to as an exile according to a representative of Lor'themar most likely because of her actions as leader of the Silver Covenant. Presumably all other members of the Silver Covenant were exiled in absentia as well. However, I imagine a lot of high elven "exile" is self-imposed. The Kirin Tor is probably filled with high elves who simply prefer remaining in Dalaran as opposed to living in their ancestral homeland, especially after Silvermoon joined the Horde I wager. If all high elves were exiled for simply not being blood elves, there would be no high elf pilgrims at the Sunwell.

But, yeah, I'm glad the reason some Thalassians remain high elves as opposed to becoming blood elves with the majority of their kin is left largely vague because the Quel'Lithien reason just doesn't work for a lot of them when you start to look into it. My personal opinion is that most find the idea of working with the races of the Horde objectionable (understandably).

I can definitely understand some of the disappointment with what we've seen of the extra customisation so far (and that forest troll post is funny!) but a current model female troll with Amani colours seems indistinguishable from what we've seen of the Amani females and the males can just be more spell-slinger/ranged body types instead, I guess!

inb4 it's Stormwindian Human in the form of a High Elf

Maybe a high elf equivalent of "Silvermoon" Harry!

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

But that won't work. It's not like playing a wildhammer dwarf on an existing dwarf because a wildhammer is still biologically identical to the existing dwarf and nothing on the existing dwarf contradicts it being a wildhammer.
A Void Elf that looks like a high elf is still a Void Elf. The moment you began combat and entropic embrace procced you wouldn't be able to suspend your suspension of disbelief. So it won't be a high elf on a Void Elf. It would be a Void Elf that looks like a high elf.

This has nothing to do with what I am talking about. This post is not about giving VE's "High Elven skin colors"

This point is exclusively about adding High Elves -such as the silver covenant- into the Void Elves for lore and story reasons. High Elves being transformed into Void Elves, and thus, looking like any other regular Void Elves. The point is of allowing Void Elves to not come from only exiled Blood Elves, but also previous alliance loyalists.

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inb4 it's Stormwindian Human in the form of a High Elf

Honestly I'd be into Half Elves. As far as retcons go, making the Silver Covenant be mostly Half Elves would be fun.

[Strippling]

Considering I don't want a void corrupted elf that isn't exactly acceptable to me. I'd prefer if High elves perhaps went full Arcane or mixed Arcane with Nature or something, while Blood elves went full Light and you had Void vs Light that way.
Felt weird that both the Void-touched and Light-touched races are in the same faction.

It wouldn't make sense to have blood elves go full light. They're still a strong arcane based society heck look at their racials, every one of them is arcane focused.

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Time 21:00+

New T&E video that includes snippet of the datamined blue eyes on Blood Elves and then they go into a funny sarcastic take on how this is what players have been asking for before revealing the shit show that it was on the forums, then Evi continues with this comment which incredibly reiterates what it is High Elf fans are asking for:

"And honestly those reactions are understandable because famously when players ask for High Elves they're specifically asking for Alliance High Elves. As can be found in their own group in the Siege of Suramar separate from the Blood Elves and Night Elves and recognized in-game, by the characters, as a different thing.

Players who want High Elves want to stand in that group whereas a Blue Eyed Blood Elf would stand in this group, so it's not the same thing.

That said it may be a little too soon to get overly upset. Don't forget, none of the customization options we've shown you here are actually in the alpha. They've been put together by, frankly some herculean efforts, Stiven from Wowhead because alpha is weird."

Then she goes on to talk about the newfound skeletons/tuskarr ids. And concludes that those options might end up in NPCs, but they'll worry about them once they actually exist in character creation.

Glad to see them continuing to put it out there towards what it is High Elf fans are asking for, while also providing the in-game footage of how even characters within the game recognize this difference. Them also saying that blue eyes on blood elves isn't going to satisfy those fans because that's not what they're asking for is another nice reiteration to put out there.

Their reach of exposure is far greater than other random videos on wow scenes so I'm glad they included the Suramar scene even though it's been there on YouTube since that cinematic came out. Should reinforce to Blizzard what it is players asking for High Elves are asking for.

T&E are famously alliance biased. That's all that need be said.

[FlubberPuddy]

T&E are famously alliance biased. That's all that need be said.

Yeah I'm sure this comment right here is what Blizzard will go and immediately dismiss what's being said and presented with evidence in the video.

/s

[protip]

Yeah I'm sure this comment right here is what Blizzard will go and immediately dismiss what's being said and presented with evidence in the video.

/s

Blue eyes for blood elves are a lore accurate expansion of the customization options available to blood elves, as announced at Blizzcon. Why even bother acting like this is about the Alliance?

[Obelisk Kai]

Yeah I'm sure this comment right here is what Blizzard will go and immediately dismiss what's being said and presented with evidence in the video.

/s

This is the second Taliesin and Evitel video you have posted here recently and then dissected as if it were some kind of developer commentary. They make extremely entertaining videos but they are not developers. And as much as you like repeating what they say about this particular topic, they never actually engaged with the rationale that saw High Elves rejected as an Allied race (the degradation of faction diversity), so their power of analysis on this particular point are not above reproach. But then again they are fans, not developers, and shouldn't be held to developer standards.

As for Blizzard ignoring comments on the video, I really I doubt Blizzard will care about a short minute long segment. If the decision has been made to give Blood Elves blue eyes, and five or so different shades of blue eyes has the mood music on that looking positive, then blue eyes will be added to Blood Elves.

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This has nothing to do with what I am talking about. This post is not about giving VE's "High Elven skin colors"

This point is exclusively about adding High Elves -such as the silver covenant- into the Void Elves for lore and story reasons. High Elves being transformed into Void Elves, and thus, looking like any other regular Void Elves. The point is of allowing Void Elves to not come from only exiled Blood Elves, but also previous alliance loyalists.

Fair enough, I misread your previous comment. As Thalassian Bob described in a post shortly afterwards, it is more than possible to play a Void Elf as a Silver Covenant member who has embraced the void. I am hoping if the void elf lore we receive in the upcoming novel may flesh out a bit of the current Void Elf situation.

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Yeah, people put high elves and especially Alliance-aligned high elves on a pedestal that is largely unfounded. Sure, I've no doubt there are some good high elven eggs out there, like Olisarra the Kind's name is probably well-earned and Captain Auric Sunchaser seems like a principled chap, but the Silver Covenant - an organisation that many seem to think have the sun shining out of their collective backsides as opposed to being emblazoned on their tabards - are not above murdering their kin for information and they positively leapt at the opportunity to act as Jaina's (often lethally) violent attack dogs during the Purge of Dalaran.

It seems to be an attempt to establish a moral and temperamental superiority for the Exiles over the Blood Elves. That does not stand up to scrutiny of course, but the power of the myth created by pro high elf fans can be very powerful. For example, a pro High Elfer can insist that the high elves wouldn't mess with dangerous magics and if you point out Quel'lithien lodge, the high elves who sold their souls to Malygos or the high elves working with the twilight's hammer, those are simply ignored in favour of a restatement of the myth.

[FlubberPuddy]

Blue eyes for blood elves are a lore accurate expansion of the customization options available to blood elves, as announced at Blizzcon. Why even bother acting like this is about the Alliance?

I'm not the one who brought up "Alliance biased" so not sure why you're asking me?

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Fair enough, I misread your previous comment. As Thalassian Bob described in a post shortly afterwards, it is more than possible to play a Void Elf as a Silver Covenant member who has embraced the void. I am hoping if the void elf lore we receive in the upcoming novel may flesh out a bit of the current Void Elf situation.

As long as the only official lore of Void Elves is that they are Blood Elven scholars transformed against their will, not really.

I mean, sure, you can, that's not the issue; the problem is if any elf that delved on the void could became a VE, then you'd look like Alleria. VE's look like they do because of the specific context that created -a botched ritual- the only other VE we have seen in game -Alleria- looks like a High Elf.

And more importantly; you can headcanon your character's background to be whatever you want, that has no incidence, or relevance, to what is the official lore. It's pretty disingenuous to answer the concern of a tangible lore advancement/resolution for the High Elves -or at least the Silver Covenant- by saying "you can just pretend you are a SC high elf-

Sure it's also fun to play a redeemed Eredar as a Draenei, does not mean that in the official lore that is a fact. The realms of personal headcanon or narrative just aren't the same that those of official lore.

[Thalassian Bob]

It seems to be an attempt to establish a moral and temperamental superiority for the Exiles over the Blood Elves. That does not stand up to scrutiny of course, but the power of the myth created by pro high elf fans can be very powerful. For example, a pro High Elfer can insist that the high elves wouldn't mess with dangerous magics and if you point out Quel'lithien lodge, the high elves who sold their souls to Malygos or the high elves working with the twilight's hammer, those are simply ignored in favour of a restatement of the myth.

Indeed. People construct this paragon image and then just ignore any lore that contradicts that. People sometimes do it for the Alliance as a whole and Sylvanas is another figure who garners (or used to) defence to that degree.