Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

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I think the sea elf niche might be something worth exploring.

[Traycor]

I think the sea elf niche might be something worth exploring.

It certainly has a lore basis.

4. Rune Casters, Wardstones, and Shipwrights

Returning to their roots, the Silver Covenant begins using ward stones to power their defenses, their ships, and their weapons. This renewed focus is perfect for their nomadic lifestyle.



A People on the Edge
They have little resources or manpower, so they have tapped into the most powerful magic they had access to and are using it to devastating effect... the consequences could be deadly...

No True Home
With no place to call their own, the home base for the Silver Covenant has become a flotilla of High Elf ships, many of them salvaged or repaired from the Second War. This wandering home crosses Azeroth as needed, making the Silver Covenant highly mobile and efficient. Wardstones protect the fleet from aerial attacks.

Crewed with highly-skilled Elven seafarers, these swift-sailing vessels are prepared to engage the enemy wherever they may be found. Elven Destroyers constitute a critical part of the Alliance navel defense force as they can unleash their firepower upon the dreaded aerial forces of the Horde.

[Zorish]

oh and by the way

Having suffered from her own magical withdrawal, Vereesa reflected that she too may have joined them, had it not been for Rhonin's support which helped her to recuperate. After the birth of her sons, her love for her children was enough to distract her from the pangs of addiction and loss.[9]

you dear leader know how to "take" magic from the living too

[Gurluas]

oh and by the way


you dear leader know how to "take" magic from the living too

Tbh I'd rather want Auric Sunchaser or Jalinde Summerdrake as the High elf leader.
As famous as Vereesa is, she's not a good example of a High elf, and most of her arc is being Rhonin's waifu, and then being emo about losing her husband, and even considering abandoning the Alliance and her children to join Sylvanas.

[Zorish]

Tbh I'd rather want Auric Sunchaser or Jalinde Summerdrake as the High elf leader.
As famous as Vereesa is, she's not a good example of a High elf, and most of her arc is being Rhonin's waifu, and then being emo about losing her husband, and even considering abandoning the Alliance and her children to join Sylvanas.

we already saw Auric Sunchaser in silvermoon during Quel'Delar questchain. And still don't know what negotiations gone with him and LTT. The result can be very funny that Allerian stronghold elves after opening of DP actually were assimilated (after events of BC) in Blood elves society. Because after BC they dropped "draining magic" theme. Wich will lead to "High elves" in horde.
and Jalinde Summerdrake? really? rare mob? And because she is "rare mob" she is probably dead.

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Tbh I'd rather want Auric Sunchaser or Jalinde Summerdrake as the High elf leader.
As famous as Vereesa is, she's not a good example of a High elf, and most of her arc is being Rhonin's waifu, and then being emo about losing her husband, and even considering abandoning the Alliance and her children to join Sylvanas.

Agreed. I do like her character outside of the books but the high elves deserve a better leader. Someone that actually works to make a future for his/her people. Vereesa says she does but not really as she only has half elves as children.

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Blood Elves fit the vampire/decadent elf society niche. Basically they act like Drow.
Void Elves look like drow (and act like them too).

High Elves fit the more classical Legolas niche. Ranger is a good example of this.

Dont' get me wrong, I love your concepts and the idea, would love to see it in game like I've said already

But,

Blood Elven Farstriders already fill the Legolas niche, they're archers, dual wielding swords and daggers, acting as scouts and skirmishers.

Same could be said about the Night Elven military and their sentinels, archers acting as scouts and skirmishers

Sure Night Elves in artwork are portrayed as ''barefooted beasts with fangs'' but in-game that image is less prevalent, their savageness has certainly declined since WC3

I'm not saying distinguishing them can't be done, and I think you've done a very good job so far, especially with the less Silver Covenant focused High Elves, but more forest focused High Elves with their kinship with the Wildhammer Dwarves and their green ranger armor.

With the Greenelves approach you would have to also steer Night Elves into a more savage direction to distinguish the two, which is definitely possible, and something a lot of players have wanted for a long time, but it's just something to keep in mind when discussing this.

Your vision doesn't just have to not clash with what Blood Elves are, but also with what Night Elves are, to avoid any overlapping themes.

[Gurluas]

we already saw Auric Sunchaser in silvermoon during Quel'Delar questchain. And still don't know what negotiations gone with him and LTT. The result can be very funny that Allerian stronghold elves after opening of DP actually were assimilated (after events of BC) in Blood elves society. Because after BC they dropped "draining magic" theme. Wich will lead to "High elves" in horde.
and Jalinde Summerdrake? really? rare mob? And because she is "rare mob" she is probably dead.

The Blood elves invited the High elves to get attuned to the new Sunwell, that's it though. The High elves remain loyal to the Alliance and distinct from the Blood elves. Auric Sunchaser is a loyal soldier of the Alliance, I strongly doubt he'd defect and abandon the comrades he fought with in a hellish wasteland against the Orcs in order to join the Orcs.

Just because someone is a rare mob doesn't mean they're dead. Almost all Vanilla rare mobs survived the world revamp.

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Sure Night Elves in artwork are portrayed as ''barefooted beasts with fangs'' but in-game that image is less prevalent, their savageness has certainly declined since WC3
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I sooooo miss that ... well at least my night elves are all barefoot .. *sigh*

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I might upload some concept art too. There is official concept art which blizzard hadn't used.

[Traycor]

I might upload some concept art too. There is official concept art which blizzard hadn't used.

Please do!

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Your vision doesn't just have to not clash with what Blood Elves are, but also with what Night Elves are, to avoid any overlapping themes.

Not stepping on the toes of the Night Elves has been one of the trickiest parts.

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More I think of this, more convinced I become that emphasising the nautical aspect would be a good way to forge a distinct enough niche to the High Elves. They're people who have no home, roaming the seas.

[Traycor]

More I think of this, more convinced I become that emphasising the nautical aspect would be a good way to forge a distinct enough niche to the High Elves. They're people who have no home, roaming the seas.

And the Silver Covenant still has fleets of ships in game. It would make a lot of sense. The only downside is we are currently getting Kul'tirans, and their theme is that they are sea faring. I'm not sure if that makes this more or less likely. They could certainly tie the two together. Add the wardstone idea for protecting the fleet and they become magical sailors, while the Kul'tirans are pirates and monster hunters. It might be different enough to work!

[Zorish]

The Blood elves invited the High elves to get attuned to the new Sunwell, that's it though. The High elves remain loyal to the Alliance and distinct from the Blood elves. Auric Sunchaser is a loyal soldier of the Alliance, I strongly doubt he'd defect and abandon the comrades he fought with in a hellish wasteland against the Orcs in order to join the Orcs.

Just because someone is a rare mob doesn't mean they're dead. Almost all Vanilla rare mobs survived the world revamp.

who knows who knows. we can not be sure about any of this statements. + LTT still see "High elves" as part of his people. So that's really depends on lore twist (because honestly i still don't see why this "high elves" serve the aliance. They have like no real reason. Orcs and trolls who Blood elves ally with - on other continent and in current state they don't even trying to harm elves, but respect them as allies, and forsaken are ruled by their own (even of dead) kind, and mana draining practices left only as skill but not necessity. So like - why they are not with their kind? I don't see.

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And the Silver Covenant still has fleets of ships in game. It would make a lot of sense. The only downside is we are currently getting Kul'tirans, and their theme is that they are sea faring. I'm not sure if that makes this more or less likely. They could certainly tie the two together. Add the wardstone idea for protecting the fleet and they become magical sailors, while the Kul'tirans are pirates and monster hunters. It might be different enough to work!

I think so, yes. Kul Tirans being sea faring is not really a problem, they're humans and different enough. It would just open up some interesting options for these two races to interact.

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Please do!

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Not stepping on the toes of the Night Elves has been one of the trickiest parts.

Second that, I love concept arts.

And yeah be carefull most of us don't wear shoes. It might hurt us!



The idea of them being sailors is also quite appealing, I like the idea and it would be easy to implend this race in BFA since we are going to explore uncharted island and one of them could be a Tortuga like high elven city in the seas.
Cool idea.


It's a bit of a shame that the community comes up with so many cool ideas and what we get is ... emo elves... much wow...

[Syegfryed]

Nobody is "crying", and you are not on twitch. Though I think that even in twitch telling someone they are "crying" when they aren't would be seen as an insult, trying to make them seem more childish and unreasonable than they are.

like i said, is a meme, if you re too much sensitive then its not with me

"crying about something is always used, regardless the subject, and after VE the HE crowd is crying rly loud to get then, that is a fact.

High Elves are in the Alliance right now. That's cannon.

not enough to be playable, thats canon too, let signore shall we?

regardless i was talking about the bad fanfics not, that some of then are in the alliance or not

[Traycor]

Updated the OP:

2. Rune Casters, Wardstones, and Shipwrights

Returning to their roots, the Silver Covenant begins using ward stones to power their defenses, their ships, and their weapons. This renewed focus is perfect for their nomadic lifestyle.



A People on the Edge
They have little resources or manpower, so they have tapped into the most powerful magic they had access to and are using it to devastating effect... the consequences could be deadly...

No True Home
With no place to call their own, the home base for the Silver Covenant has become a flotilla of High Elf ships, many of them salvaged or repaired from the Second War. This wandering home crosses Azeroth as needed, making the Silver Covenant highly mobile and efficient. Wardstones protect the fleet from aerial attacks.

Crewed with highly-skilled Elven seafarers, these swift-sailing vessels are prepared to engage the enemy wherever they may be found. Elven Destroyers constitute a critical part of the Alliance navel defense force as they can unleash their firepower upon the dreaded aerial forces of the Horde.

Possible Racials
Runestone: Create a field that lowers aggro within. (Based on the elven runestones that dampened the trace their magic left so they were harder for dark forces to detect.)
Battle Magic: Attacks have a chance to do bonus Arcane damage. (Inspired by the war mage artwork.)
Covenant Beacon: Party members can use the beacon to return to their Hearthstone location. (Just based on the Kirin Tor Beacon from the Isle of Thunder.)
Arcane Guidance: Increases resource regeneration for the party. (Inspired by the high elves having taught the humans magic.)
Territorial: Gain increased experience from Alliance-exclusive quests. (Inspired by the Troll Wars).
Exile's Meditation: Channel this ability to quickly regenerate hp, mana/energy/rage, and remove debuffs (can only be used if out of combat for X seconds). In their years cut off from the Sunwell, Quel'dorei learned to quell their magical needs with rigid mental discipline. They can still employ such meditation.
Self-Preservation: Escape to hearthstone-bound location when under 10% health (channeled cast). As the remnants of an endangered race, every High Elf learns when to retreat to battle another day. (This is probably sorta useless, but I like the idea of Helfs making tactical retreats)
Arcane Exploits: Chance for extra materials from milling and disenchanting. The Quel'dorei have always been gifted in the arcane. This knowledge gives them a natural, practical advantage when pursuing mystic disciplines. (As a sort of counterpart to Belf Enchanting bonus)

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I like the idea of sea-nomadic High Elves a lot!

What if their heritage armor was based more around the sea rather than the forest and the wilds?

Scales on their armor, and fins on their helmets? Have their guards wield tridents and so on, would that be possible without stepping on the Nagas' identity?

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I like the idea of sea-nomadic High Elves a lot!

What if their heritage armor was based more around the sea rather than the forest and the wilds?

Scales on their armor, and fins on their helmets? Have their guards wield tridents and so on, would that be possible without stepping on the Nagas' identity?

Sounds a bit too gimicky... I think the pirate/merchants theme would be more appropriate.
But we could name them the Fin'dorei .. hihihihi...