Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[FlubberPuddy]

Ion just said that while Allied Races won't have extra customizations come release of Shadowlands, it is something they want to go back to after the traditional races have gotten theirs.

He also said character customization is never-ending and it's always an ongoing process where they want to give people the ability to express themselves in a variety of ways.

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HOLY SHIT ION JUST CONFIRMED NO BLUE EYE BLOOD ELVES CUZ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HOW THAT RACE EVOLVED!! And that those blue eye options will only be for NPC options atm.

[Uthan]

Ion's words, no plans for blue eyes on Blood elves. It apparently makes no sense on Blood Elves as they have evolved, hopefully the people taking Ion's words as gospel will finally have that sink in ^^

[Varodoc]

Ion just said that while Allied Races won't have extra customizations come release of Shadowlands, it is something they want to go back to after the traditional races have gotten theirs.

He also said character customization is never-ending and it's always an ongoing process where they want to give people the ability to express themselves in a variety of ways.

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HOLY SHIT ION JUST CONFIRMED NO BLUE EYE BLOOD ELVES CUZ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HOW THAT RACE EVOLVED!! And that those blue eye options will only be for NPC options atm.

Pretty sure datamine had already debunked blue-eyed blood elves.

[idunnowatdo]

I guess it’s time to wake up from the high elf dream

[Graden]

Ion just said that while Allied Races won't have extra customizations come release of Shadowlands, it is something they want to go back to after the traditional races have gotten theirs.

He also said character customization is never-ending and it's always an ongoing process where they want to give people the ability to express themselves in a variety of ways.

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HOLY SHIT ION JUST CONFIRMED NO BLUE EYE BLOOD ELVES CUZ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HOW THAT RACE EVOLVED!! And that those blue eye options will only be for NPC options atm.

Yeah, indeed. I honestly did not expect that, I am very surprised.

[ercarp]

No blue-eyed blood elves in Shadowlands! Hell yeah!

[elbleuet]

Oh my god. That hurts

Thanks Ion. No blue-eyed blood elves, ever.

[FlubberPuddy]

Pretty sure datamine had already debunked blue-eyed blood elves.

Not to some like the poster below your post here.

What's good is that Ion also included the lore reasoning for the confirmation behind that decision. "It doesn't make sense for how that race evolved".

It means they're confirming that Blue Eyes = High Elf and Non-blue = Blood Elf/other Thalassian Elf.

[Obelisk Kai]

HOLY SHIT ION JUST CONFIRMED NO BLUE EYE BLOOD ELVES CUZ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HOW THAT RACE EVOLVED!! And that those blue eye options will only be for NPC options atm.

Indeed. Word of God has confirmed that it doesn't make sense for Blood Elves and so the point is conceded. There will be no blue eyed Blood Elves.

However.

The corollary to this is, as Moorgard implied and Ion has confirmed, lore matters. The debate over blue eyed Blood Elves was fuelled by differing interpretations of the lore. That debate has now been resolved. What also does not make sense is Void Elves who look like high elves. If they will not give a 'much demanded' option for Blood Elves, as blue eyes were, for reasons of lore, then what chance is there for the high elf like skin tones you've been arguing for?

Whilst Blood Elves are not getting blue eyes, what you really want is now much further out of reach.

[FlubberPuddy]

Yeah, indeed. I honestly did not expect that, I am very surprised.

Same lol, especially coming from Ion who made the eyes seem like a minor thing during that Q&A

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If they will not give a 'much demanded' option for Blood Elves, as blue eyes were, for reasons of lore, then what chance is there for the high elf like skin tones you've been arguing for?

Whilst Blood Elves are not getting blue eyes, what you really want is now much further out of reach.

He also said that character customization is an ongoing process and will never end and that they want to get as many options out there for people.

Since High Elves on Alliance is a look people want, and with confirmation no Blue Eye Blood Elves as that doesn't make sense. It means that the Thalassian model available to Alliance, Void Elves, can one day potentially get High Elf customization.

You may still be a 'Void Elf' but there's no lore that says they cannot refine the process in the future so that people can look like Alleria.

Again, seeing as Ion confirms character customization will come to AR, and that essentially there's never a 'final pass' this means eventually (just as Ion said 'It's possible, but no plans in the near term) High Elves can become a playable option for Alliance.

Ion's statements today backs up what that High Elf fan asked him at Blizzcon: Just because they're not in right now doesn't mean High Elves won't ever be in WoW.

I honestly don't care how long it would take them, just like I never cared how long it took them to have demonhunters. I have the patience, and I can enjoy and play the game how I want in the meantime.

[Varodoc]

There is always an "however", isn't there. Things can never be simple

[Frenchvince]

Not to some like the poster below your post here.

What's good is that Ion also included the lore reasoning for the confirmation behind that decision. "It doesn't make sense for how that race evolved".

It means they're confirming that Blue Eyes = High Elf and Non-blue = Blood Elf/other Thalassian Elf.

Merci Ion <3

[FlubberPuddy]

BIG WIN here is High Elf fans don't need to put up with the 'BLUE EYES ARE FOR BLOOD ELVES IT MAKES SENSE' crowd anymore. Thank fucken goodness.

[elbleuet]

Whilst Blood Elves are not getting blue eyes, what you really want is now much further out of reach.

How can you even say that now?
You kept on repeating the same thing since weeks : that blue-eyed blood elves were a high probability by denying the obvious.
You fooled yourself. And you were wrong from the beginning.
Blue-eyed blood elves were never an option since the only blue-eyed thalassian elves will always be the High elves. It's been that way since 15 years and things are not gonna change.

I don't say we'll eventually get the high elf costumization options. But at least the hope is permitted.

[FlubberPuddy]

Merci Ion <3

Fenchvince I'm not sure where you found that image, but I think keyboardturner said it's a fake after they investigated it because they couldn't find those in the files.

I'd urge everyone to do what Ion said: caution what you see in datamining because any texture can be applied to any model, that doesn't necessarily mean they will get those models.

[Frenchvince]

BIG WIN here is High Elf fans don't need to put up with the 'BLUE EYES ARE FOR BLOOD ELVES IT MAKES SENSE' crowd anymore. Thank fucken goodness.

A little cleaning indeed!

[Obelisk Kai]

He also said that character customization is an ongoing process and will never end and that they want to get as many options out there for people.

Since High Elves on Alliance is a look people want, and with confirmation no Blue Eye Blood Elves as that doesn't make sense. It means that the Thalassian model available to Alliance, Void Elves, can one day potentially get High Elf customization.

You may still be a 'Void Elf' but there's no lore that says they cannot refine the process in the future so that people can look like Alleria.

Again, seeing as Ion confirms character customization will come to AR, and that essentially there's never a 'final pass' this means eventually (just as Ion said 'It's possible, but no plans in the near term) High Elves can become a playable option for Alliance.

Ion's statements today backs up what that High Elf fan asked him at Blizzcon: Just because they're not in right now doesn't mean High Elves won't ever be in WoW.

No, what he said was that for reasons of lore Blood Elves will not be getting blue eyes.

What you have argued is that Void Elves should get normal skin tones because they are a popular request.

Blue eyes for Blood Elves were denied because they contravened their lore. It was a VERY popular request. So your argument, which you made as recently as a few hours ago, that demand alone is a factor in their considerations, has been proven incorrect. Lore matters and lore trumped demand.

Normal skin tones for Void Elves contravenes the lore behind Void Elves. If they deny something as small as blue eyes for Blood Elves, demolishing the far bigger aesthetic difference between Void Elves and Blood Elves, which is a far bigger thing than eye colour, cannot be considered as a serious prospect.

[Varodoc]

Void elves: Are only dark-skinned, pink skin doesn't make sense for them, that is just out of reach.

Also void elves: Have this as leader



Obelisk Kai's logic y'all.

[FlubberPuddy]

No, what he said was that for reasons of lore Blood Elves will not be getting blue eyes.

What you have argued is that Void Elves should get normal skin tones because they are a popular request.

Blue eyes for Blood Elves were denied because they contravened their lore. It was a VERY popular request. So your argument, which you made as recently as a few hours ago, that demand alone is a factor in their considerations, has been proven incorrect. Lore matters and lore trumped demand.

Normal skin tones for Void Elves contravenes the lore behind Void Elves. If they deny something as small as blue eyes for Blood Elves, demolishing the far bigger aesthetic difference between Void Elves and Blood Elves, which is a far bigger thing than eye colour, cannot be considered as a serious prospect.

Sure buddy, think whatever you want. High Elf fans have even more reinforcement to continue asking for High Elves to be playable now.

[elbleuet]

Sure buddy, think whatever you want. High Elf fans have even more reinforcement to continue asking for High Elves to be playable now.

Today is a nice day