Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[yana]

Aren't you all tired of waiting for a generic and bland as flour race that wont ever happen not matter how much you wait for like 15 years?you understand blizzard wants its cake and eat it too and putting these high elves here and there is the easiest way to create buzz about their game but they are pratically playing you guys.
You know this, right?
The "race" is so shallow and bland you can just play every other classical mmorpg in the world and click on the high elf option , its time to move on, its never gonna happen.

[FlubberPuddy]

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This entire post is an example of how one can take the same information and interpret it differently. At which point there isn't much discussion to be had without a common grounding in place.

We'll just have to wait till it's time for Void Elf increased customizations to see what they want end up getting in the end.

Orange btw is not part of the Night Elf aesthetic, a frank break-away. Neither are the very grey-dark skin tones that've been datamined.

I'll leave it at that because a back and forth is a waste of time.

[matrix123mko]

Tattoos are a farstrider thing. That is a fact. I fully expect tattoo options for blood elves (again not 100% guaranteed but I think a very high possibility)

Blizzard commented a thread on official forum about giving farstrider tattoos to blood elves. They said that these ideas are nice. Maybe we will see them in next customisation update in Shadowlands alpha.

Pro high elfers have used the excuse "they said no to classic then changed their mind, they'll do the same for high elves". So pro high elfers have attempted to compare the two. Though as you correctly point out, they're not even comparable. One was a concept with a massive backing of 200,000+ signatures on its official classic petition, while the other is a concept which has a measly 700 signatures on its official petition. One comprised a massive supporting by the community at large, while, as you point out, the other comprises a few people from one of the factions asking for a race already playable.

The cost is different. One required a lot of bugfixing and creating new servers, while the second only requires Blizzard to put blood elves in Alliance and change their eye texture, maybe also switching their racial.

[FlubberPuddy]

Aren't you all tired of waiting for a generic and bland as flour race that wont ever happen not matter how much you wait for like 15 years?you understand blizzard wants its cake and eat it too and putting these high elves here and there is the easiest way to create buzz about their game but they are pratically playing you guys.
You know this, right?
The "race" is so shallow and bland you can just play every other classical mmorpg in the world and click on the high elf option , its time to move on, its never gonna happen.

And yet the apparently 'most generic and bland' races of Humans/Night Elves/Blood Elves are the most played.

Majority of people don't give a shit about 'being uber unique look at me I'm playing a blue troll/funky gnome/dark iron dwarf'.

Otherwise very unique/different races would be the most played and the 'generic' ones least played.

[matrix123mko]

But they won't because that's a high elf thing.

Alleria who has some, is firmly Alliance.

Today I learned that Alleria is the only person on Azeroth who know secret of tattooing elven skin. Every elf, including Tyrande went to to Alleria's tattoo studio to make them.

Also, this is not the topic but blood elf could also use some arcane tattoos that nightborne use.

[Obelisk Kai]

This entire post is an example of how one can take the same information and interpret it differently. At which point there isn't much discussion to be had without a common grounding in place.

Except interpreted without the conclusion in mind, the conclusion being 'they will give me what I want and this is how'.

Starting with a conclusion warps interpretation of available evidence. It's why you've been constantly disappointed.

Orange btw is not part of the Night Elf aesthetic, a frank break-away. Neither are the very grey-dark skin tones that've been datamined.

https://images.app.goo.gl/WH2fBpGpfkZ7veq97

I think if you can't see how orange fits into the Night Elf (the wood elves of wow) aesthetic then you aren't looking hard enough.

As for the grey-dark skin tones...it's grey-blue. Night Elves do have some blue shades, this is just another spin on one of those

[yana]

And yet the apparently 'most generic and bland' races of Humans/Night Elves/Blood Elves are the most played.

Majority of people don't give a shit about 'being uber unique look at me I'm playing a blue troll/funky gnome/dark iron dwarf'.

Otherwise very unique/different races would be the most played and the 'generic' ones least played.

then play those that already exist, what's the need of yet another bland humanoid race with 0 traits worth mentioning besides nebulous political decisions and "muh purity" play a human.
pretend they have pointy ears and you are good to go

[Frenchvince]

Tattoos are a farstrider thing. That is a fact. I fully expect tattoo options for blood elves (again not 100% guaranteed but I think a very high possibility)

I don't want to give you false hope but all datamined races (except tauren) have had their body customization options (body / face tattoos included).
All that is missing is the customization options for the "head", hairstyles, faces, jewelry ect ... humans were the first to have the addition in the new build.

So I don't think the blood elves will have the high-elf farstrider customization option, they received body jewelry instead.

[FlubberPuddy]

https://images.app.goo.gl/WH2fBpGpfkZ7veq97

I think if you can't see how orange fits into the Night Elf (the wood elves of wow) aesthetic then you aren't looking hard enough.

As for the grey-dark skin tones...it's grey-blue. Night Elves do have some blue shades, this is just another spin on one of those

Your spin.

And it's not about 'orange is part of woods' it's about debunking your argument that the increased customizations will stay within the specific aesthetics already existing in the race.

Night Elves don't already have access to an Orange hair option, nor anything close to Orange in any of their hair options.

Same for the grey skin option. Most people when they see this:



Are not going to go ' OH YEAH THAT'S BLUE'. The base that jumps out is GREY. People in the stream were even commenting, 'omg Dark Ranger skin' when they saw the NE Female pic ^.

You'd have more of a point using the NE male



Where there's a very hefty amount of Purple applied.

Also the two images right there, they use the same exact texture file. Notice how different it looks between Female and Male.

Male would be Blizzard following your line of logic, having the races keep within their already established aesthetic options. More purple isn't new to Night Elves.

Female would be Blizzard following my, and what Ion said they're trying to do, logic. That is opening up a diversity of options. Grey is not a color already available to Night Elves.

Neither is Orange hair color. Nor datamined Blue Eyes for NE from keyboardturner.

[yana]

I don't want to give you false hope but all datamined races (except tauren) have had their body customization options (body / face tattoos included).
All that is missing is the customization options for the "head", hairstyles, faces, jewelry ect ... humans were the first to have the addition in the new build.

So I don't think the blood elves will have the high-elf farstrider customization option, they received body jewelry instead.

I mean the alpha is not complete by any means and how does jewelry coorelate to tatoos?
and its ironic you say not to give false hopes since this thread is the Height of false hopes

[FlubberPuddy]

then play those that already exist, what's the need of yet another bland humanoid race with 0 traits worth mentioning besides nebulous political decisions and "muh purity" play a human.
pretend they have pointy ears and you are good to go

Vulpera are yet another 'cute race' that's literally what John Hight talked about when he mentioned that one faction shouldn't have all the pretty/cute races while the other side is full of monsters.

Blizzard are already going against 'every single option in the game must be unique and different and not step on the toes of what already exists.'

Other evidence of this is every race getting blue eyes for instance.

[yana]

Vulpera are yet another 'cute race' that's literally what John Hight talked about when he mentioned that one faction shouldn't have all the pretty/cute races while the other side is full of monsters.

Blizzard are already going against 'every single option in the game must be unique and different and not step on the toes of what already exists.'

Other evidence of this is every race getting blue eyes for instance.

It seems to me you need to elevate your expectations or accept you will never get your desired high elves, its okay to admite so

[FlubberPuddy]

It seems to me you need to elevate your expectations or accept you will never get your desired high elves, its okay to admite so

How weird, trying to put your views onto me. If you feel they'll never come that's good and well for you. I don't see the point in trying to get others who want something to stop requesting it.

[yana]

How weird, trying to put your views onto me. If you feel they'll never come that's good and well for you. I don't see the point in trying to get others who want something to stop requesting it.

you are right, i just need to say may saint jude bless you, saint jude is the saint of lost causes btw.

[Frenchvince]

I mean the alpha is not complete by any means and how does jewelry coorelate to tatoos?
and its ironic you say not to give false hopes since this thread is the Height of false hopes

Body jewelry is to be considered as tattoos, they will also receive lots of new jewelry for "head customization" and I think they will have sophisticated hairstyles.
Here is the artistic direction chosen by Blizzard to represent the blood elves, they will have more the style of Marie-Antoinette than that of Robin Hood.







Farstrider tattoo + blue eyes = I think these 2 options are reserved for the High Elves.

[elbleuet]

A blood elf wearing both jewelry AND tribal tattoos in the same time would look weird I think. So that's pretty unlikely at this point.

[FlubberPuddy]

Ion just said that while Allied Races won't have extra customizations come release of Shadowlands, it is something they want to go back to after the traditional races have gotten theirs.

He also said character customization is never-ending and it's always an ongoing process where they want to give people the ability to express themselves in a variety of ways.

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HOLY SHIT ION JUST CONFIRMED NO BLUE EYE BLOOD ELVES CUZ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HOW THAT RACE EVOLVED!! And that those blue eye options will only be for NPC options atm.

[Uthan]

Ion's words, no plans for blue eyes on Blood elves. It apparently makes no sense on Blood Elves as they have evolved, hopefully the people taking Ion's words as gospel will finally have that sink in ^^

[Varodoc]

Ion just said that while Allied Races won't have extra customizations come release of Shadowlands, it is something they want to go back to after the traditional races have gotten theirs.

He also said character customization is never-ending and it's always an ongoing process where they want to give people the ability to express themselves in a variety of ways.

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HOLY SHIT ION JUST CONFIRMED NO BLUE EYE BLOOD ELVES CUZ THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR HOW THAT RACE EVOLVED!! And that those blue eye options will only be for NPC options atm.

Pretty sure datamine had already debunked blue-eyed blood elves.

[idunnowatdo]

I guess it’s time to wake up from the high elf dream