Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Frenchvince]

There are two biologically distinct groups of thalassian elves on Azeroth. Only two.

There are the elves who are bound to the Sunwell, fated to physically shift under it's influence to golden eyes in the fullness of time. The vast majority of these Elves are the Blood Elves. There are a few rebels exiled from Quel'thalas, but these rebels are no more a different race than the Defias Brotherhood or the Syndicate are a different race of Humans.

Then there are the elves who were transformed by the void, who now have their own path and their own destiny ahead of them.

These two groups form a nice thematic dichotomy representative of the coming struggle between the light and the void that will form the basis of a wow expansion one of these days. The Void Elves and the light based Blood Elves may have an interesting story in that period.

The void elves and the lightforged draenei are already the force of the alliance which represents the void and the light.
We don't need the blood elves ...

There's a story that's still going on, you know, that of the Silver Covenant VS Sunreaver.
From what we saw at BFA, the Sunreaver want their revenge, we are waiting for the next battle.
It could be much more interesting.

[FlubberPuddy]

Well, they added void elves instead of alliance high elves. In a follow up interview they stated that alliance high elves would blur faction lines. So, blizzard implement a form of alliance high elf in a sensible way (to them).. aka void elves.

They've never said Void Elves are the replacement for Alliance High Elves so I'm not sure what adding Void Elves has to do with it. It's just as if they said they consider Dark Irons a better AR candidate over Wildhammer for BFA.

They also said 'anything's possible but no plans in the near term for High Elves as an Allied Race.' Not that they will never be available and Void Elves are your Alliance High Elves or anything of that sort.

[Broflake]

The argument remains the same, the identity of the factions.
Alleria has an appearance that represents the high-elf farstrider, so it's going to be difficult now to allow the horde players to have the same thing.
I don't think Blizzard agrees that the horde will end up with full of Alleria's clones..

The argument you are holding is unfounded. You aremaking the claim it represents high elf far striders whenno such organization exists.
The only one with said tattoo is Alleria, who is not a part of the Silver Covenant. There really is not basis for your argument.

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Haven't seen Steelweaver since WOD. Wonder if he still has blue eyes now. Maybe he's dead.

He still has blue eyes. He is in the blood elf camp in Suramar.

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Nope.

Not facetious. That a Blood Elf can wear blue armor means as much as a Void Elf wearing red/black armor and then trying to call themselves a blood knight or some such.

The point seems to have missed you.

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That's not what I am saying; what I am saying is that AR either reuse assets (models, animations) or fantasy/setting/lore. All AR fall on either of these camps, none of them is something entirely "new"

Oh that is certainly true. Outside of KT, everyone reuses something.

My issue with your argument is that you drone about game design when NB/NE just fail at that. They are too similar, what I am saying is that is the animation what makes them more different than their model itself, without the animation, they would just fail at being recognizable different.

Again, so we are clear; I am Not saying that animations are the most relevant aspect in general regarding model design, I am pointing out how in the case of the NB/NE, which the models just fail to make a meaningful difference by themselves, is the animation that adds more differentiation than the model differences. This whole argument is specifically related to how little divergence there is in AR in general, how they are copies of existing assets and not new.

I would have to disagree with you, because animations are so easily overlooked in gameplay because players seldom look over a model and go "okay theanimation is different so this means X".
It really just falls down to the minor details in appearance. As much as they are similar, those minor differences are enough. Similar to how what separates a void elf and blood elf is purely color

You are missing the point. What I am saying is that any of these things -except stance cause you know, that's behavioral- are no different than the difference between different human ethnicities in game; so the point of "what is a race" in wow is highly inconsistent. There's just no consistent litmus test that says "with enough bilogical differences, you become a different race"

I would argue its because people are not simply taking it by a case by case basis. If you go "same model remains on its faction" well nightborne and void elves break it.
If you go "well if you're the same race you stay with your faction" vulpera break it.
It is better to simply look at the situation and say "does this make sense and if so, how is it justified?".
Story wise, nightborne and void elves are a different race from their parents.
Design wise. Same thing different modifications





Don't you see the irony? In your own differentiation of the Mag'har you spend more time talking about their cultural differences, which we both know aren't biological!

Your acceptance of HMT is entirely discretional, and your interpretation off mechagnomes being "biologically different" is just wrong, cause again, chopping off your extremeties doesn't make you "biologically different", less so change your race.

The whole concept of "race" in WoW is ridiculously inconsistent and only serves a gameplay purpose. You -and really anyone- are setting yourself for failure trying to find a consistent in universe definition of "race" in WoW.



Holy macarel! Do you get that "could be" is not the same than "it is", right?



Oh so you do get is not just about a biological argument. You yourself are aware that is not just a biological factor what makes the differences as you stated above, so why peddle the flawed argument anyway?

That's the sort of disingenuousness I don't abide. You could actually be consistent if you say that you just don't think are different enough even considering all non biological aspects and that would be fine, cause that's literally the answer. You don't need to devalue your own argument by tackling on a bad point like biological essentialism.[/QUOTE]

[ddi2]

High elves are trolls, you heard it here first!

Which are waiting for people on the Horde side of things.

Did you really hear it here first, that High Elves are Trolls?

That's already a thing. Blood elves are our high elves. The high elf race is already a Horde thing, and in fact they are a core Horde race who are playable on the Horde.

Pretty sure Blood Elves are your Blood Elves.

Let alone that the argument of "why not just make high elves different" falls flat on its face because void elves are literally the "different" suggestion.
Repeatedly saying you can make them different is completely ignoring the void elves existing. That is your design difference.

The only problem is that these "different" high elves are one of the furthest races from High Elves on the Alliance. Draenei are more similar to High Elves than Void Elves are.

[Broflake]

That's the reason it's pointless to discuss against.

Anti-argument: They look the same/too similar

Counter: Ok, here's ideas to make them look different.

Anti-argument: You can't change them because they're the same.

Counter: Kul'Tirans were same up until Legion, Blizzard changed their model on a whim to add more variety and when deciding to make them an AR.

Anti-argument: You still can't change them because they're the same race.

Counter: So is every Allied Race sans Vulpera.

It's just a "Ring Around the Rosie" situation, keeps going never stops. Thus no sense in continuing it. I'd rather present suggestions/arguments to Blizzard than randos who are not looking to compromise in any way.

That's probably because you substituted the counter response to Kul Tirans.

Kul Tirans are still humans, and humans, go to the Alliance faction.
Let alone that the argument of "why not just make high elves different" falls flat on its face because void elves are literally the "different" suggestion.
Repeatedly saying you can make them different is completely ignoring the void elves existing. That is your design difference.

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Pretty sure Blood Elves are your Blood Elves.

They're still high elves just under a different name. That "race" is being represented in some way already. It can't be ignored.

[ddi2]

They're still high elves just under a different name. That "race" is being represented in some way already. It can't be ignored.

Why I, who would like to play High Elves, would care about Void Elves representing anything when it's literally the last race on the Alliance I would be willing to play?

[Strippling]

They've never said Void Elves are the replacement for Alliance High Elves so I'm not sure what adding Void Elves has to do with it. It's just as if they said they consider Dark Irons a better AR candidate over Wildhammer for BFA.

Then please enlighten me as to why to made void elves a playable race (out of thin air) rather than alliance high elves? And clearly they viewed DID as a better AR candidate than Wildhammer, hence why DID is its own AR and wildhammer is just a customization option to bronzebeard dwarves. If Wildhammer were viewed as the better candidate than they would have been the AR and DID the customization option. And I'm not a betting man but i'm willing to bet the reason they deemed DID a better AR candidate is that visually there was more to dinstinguish them from regular dwarves, as opposed to wildhammer who were literally the same but with tattoos.

They also said 'anything's possible but no plans in the near term for High Elves as an Allied Race.' Not that they will never be available and Void Elves are your Alliance High Elves or anything of that sort.

You do you, but anyone who is willing to not be so naive will recognize the message blizzard have given us. That message is that alliance high elves are too similar to horde high elves (as they are literally the exact same race) and as such they will not be playable in order to avoid blurring faction lines. Their words confirm this and their actions too (hence why to this day they're still not playable). A high elf in the wow universe is represented via the blood elves. Watering down that identity is not a good option.

[Broflake]

The only problem is that these "different" high elves are one of the furthest races from High Elves on the Alliance. Draenei are more similar to High Elves than Void Elves are.

So?
If one is saying "we can make them different", then what is the issue with void elves? They're literally different in design which meets your suggestion.
If the issue is "well by storyline wise they aren't thehigh elves we want", then what is dis-satisfying about the void elves stating they never agreed with their people joining the Horde? That is literally what the high elves did.
If the issue is "they weren't loyal to the alliance the whole time", neither were the high elves. It took 2 expansions before we saw a high elf group.
If the issue is "well they had a background as blood elves", then what is the issue with instead asking for Blizzard to expand their lore?

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Why I, who would like to play High Elves, would care about Void Elves representing anything when it's literally the last race on the Alliance I would be willing to play?

That post you are referring to is referring to blood elves, who are high elves, just with a different name.
Void elves may not be what you want, but it is clear that what you want would just end up a copy paste.

The issue witht he high elf request is that it wants basically a blood elf.
Offering to alter the design changes them from what they were and defined in terms of being a high elf. In which case, play a void elf.
If you want the story, request a void elf expansion.

[Strippling]

Pretty sure Blood Elves are your Blood Elves.

Take it up with Chris Metzen. He's the one who said "blood elves are our high elves". Unless of course you're suggesting that Chris Metzen is wrong?

[FlubberPuddy]

Then please enlighten me as to why to made void elves a playable race (out of thin air) rather than alliance high elves? And clearly they viewed DID as a better AR candidate than Wildhammer, hence why DID is its own AR and wildhammer is just a customization option to bronzebeard dwarves. If Wildhammer were viewed as the better candidate than they would have been the AR and DID the customization option. And I'm not a betting man but i'm willing to bet the reason they deemed DID a better AR candidate is that visually there was more to dinstinguish them from regular dwarves, as opposed to wildhammer who were literally the same but with tattoos.

Nope, like I said I won't engage in circular discussion. I am stating facts in the quotes you've replied. You are free to devise your own leap of logics but as I've said before that hasn't helped folks who want certain options for Blood Elves lately.

You do you, but anyone who is willing to not be so naive will recognize the message blizzard have given us. That message is that alliance high elves are too similar to horde high elves (as they are literally the exact same race) and as such they will not be playable in order to avoid blurring faction lines. Their words confirm this and their actions too (hence why to this day they're still not playable). A high elf in the wow universe is represented via the blood elves. Watering down that identity is not a good option.

Same to you, you do you as well. Void Elves have never been stated to fulfill the High Elves the Alliance has been requesting and Ion, nor any Blizzard employee has ever re-stated what Ion said two years ago.

In fact there is a transcript of Ion in that same year at Blizzcon 2018 telling someone who wants High Elves that "the door hasn't closed" and "just because they're not in BFA doesn't mean they won't be in wow ever."

Just like another fan at Blizzcon 2020 asked about darker skins for BEs and was told the truth as well.



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And if anyone wishes to say it's fake they can go ahead and link this pic to Ion and ask for confirmation over Twitter DM, as I know some people like Obelisk have done that in the past

[Kyriani]

Then please enlighten me as to why to made void elves a playable race (out of thin air) rather than alliance high elves?

While I am not weighing in on the pro or anti side of things, and I most certainly cannot speak for the devs, I can attempt to answer this as far as what I have observed. Based on previous dev interviews, it seems to me that Blizzard originally considered Alliance High Elves as an allied race, but after they completed Alleria's story arc for Argus and (by Ion's own admission) their internal team gushed over it and Alleria's transformation, they decided to go with the "rule of cool" and do Void Elves instead.

I honestly believe Ion and the dev team were so enamored with their Void Elf concept that they were convinced that Void Elves would have appealed to those asking for Alliance High Elves much more than just "boring blood elves with blue eyes". Obviously the response was not what they expected and calls for playable Alliance High Elves continue unabated.

Also remember that the first four allied races were very low effort compared to the ones we got in BFA proper (likely due to most dev team focus being towards BFA at that point). Nightborne got the most effort (model, texture, and animation work) but ended up with the worst results out of all the initial four, while Void Elves got less effort than Nightborne but seem to be higher quality because they were primarily just a palette swap of existing Blood Elf textures and hairstyles with minor alterations and a few additional unique hair styles.

High Mountain and Lightforged were the bottom of the barrel for effort but look decent enough (even if they have far too few customization options IMO), thanks to basically being very minor variants of their parent races and would have served much better as simple customization options for Tauren and Draenei. I think Blizzard realized that High Mountain and Lightforged really should have been customization options and not allied races and that's why Wildhammer are being relegated to customization options in Shadowlands.

If Blizzard ever decides to make an effort to appease those asking for playable Alliance High Elves (and I do stress IF), I think the most likely avenue they would pursue would simply be giving Void Elves a broader selection of skin and hair colors (though likely not exactly the same ones Blood Elves have). They could easily justify this by pointing to the High Elf wayfarers in Telogrus and explaining that the Ren'Dorei are increasing their numbers through the method Alleria used rather than trying to replicate the accident that created the initial batch of Void Elves. Players would then have the option to RP being one of the "originals" with blue/purple skin/hair, or one of the "newbies" with whatever new skin/hair options Blizzard deigns to add (assuming they go this route).

Less likely would be Alliance High Elves as their own allied race, and while I think Half-Elves could have worked, I'm not sure Blizzard would want to risk trying to appease those asking for Alliance High Elves with yet another race that's "kind of are high elves" but aren't, though I personally think they would have served well to carry on the Alliance High Elf legacy if they were done well and done right.

Ultimately, the easiest course of action for Blizzard is to simply expand the Void Elf palette options and give some minor lore nods towards how the Ren'Dorei are expanding their population. And while Ion did say that new customization options were only for core races at Shadowlands launch, he also indicated that adding customization options is an ongoing process and that later Shadowlands patches may add more customization options for allied races as well. Only time will tell if anything actually happens in regards to Alliance High Elves though.

[Frenchvince]

The argument you are holding is unfounded. You aremaking the claim it represents high elf far striders whenno such organization exists.
The only one with said tattoo is Alleria, who is not a part of the Silver Covenant. There really is not basis for your argument.

You already have customization options to look like the leader of the blood elves (a veiled eye).
Why do you want to be like Alleria who looks like the high elf of the alliance?
I do not understand your request, knowing that the blood elves are no longer high elves because they have evolved.

The faction identity argument does not only work one way.

[matrix123mko]

That's funny because Vereesa (you know... The Ranger General of the Silver Covenant, not a random raid boss with no background) also says blood elves are unworthy of their heritage.

Elisande has a background of stopping a Legion invasion and ruling Suramar for over 10000 years. Veressa is just a foolish fruit of nepotism that used last remmants of her family's glory to get power over a group of traitors.

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Yea I immediately thought him too. Though in saying that I get the point he was making, that generally blood elves are represented with reds, golds and blacks. But despite that there are blood elves sporting other colors such as blues and silvers.

Yes. Most often they pick red.

[ddi2]

So?
If one is saying "we can make them different", then what is the issue with void elves? They're literally different in design which meets your suggestion.

The claim "we can make them different" means High Elves would still be High elves and would look like High Elves according to lore, just their current in-game model can be tweaked or changed, not that that they can be turned into the furthest thing from High Elves possible. Again, if I want to play the closest thing to High Elves on the Alliance, I'll need to roll a Human, not Void Elf.

If the issue is "well by storyline wise they aren't thehigh elves we want", then what is dis-satisfying about the void elves stating they never agreed with their people joining the Horde? That is literally what the high elves did.

Because Void Elves are nothing like High Elves at all? So what if Void Elves were forced from the Horde. If instead of Void Elves, Alliance would have gotten Void Tauren who were banished from Horde, would you still claim - here are your High Elves?

If the issue is "they weren't loyal to the alliance the whole time", neither were the high elves. It took 2 expansions before we saw a high elf group.

Lol.

If the issue is "well they had a background as blood elves", then what is the issue with instead asking for Blizzard to expand their lore?

What?

That post you are referring to is referring to blood elves, who are high elves, just with a different name.
Void elves may not be what you want, but it is clear that what you want would just end up a copy paste.

No, I don't want Blood Elves, I want what is now being presented as High Elves by the game, not high elves as a general understanding in a fantasy race.

The issue witht he high elf request is that it wants basically a blood elf.
Offering to alter the design changes them from what they were and defined in terms of being a high elf. In which case, play a void elf.
If you want the story, request a void elf expansion.

Why are you asking for me to play a void elf? You should tell instead, "in which case, play a human".

Take it up with Chris Metzen. He's the one who said "blood elves are our high elves". Unless of course you're suggesting that Chris Metzen is wrong?

He quite obviously meant 'high elves' as a fantasy trope.

[Obelisk Kai]

Nope, like I said I won't engage in circular discussion. I am stating facts in the quotes you've replied. You are free to devise your own leap of logics but as I've said before that hasn't helped folks who want certain options for Blood Elves lately.

Your credibility was recently damaged though by your admission you feel free to choose which facts to accept and which facts not to accept. That could work both ways. Perhaps the facts you are quoting don't need to be accepted by those you are debating with? Perhaps they should feel free to similarly disregard any evidence you bring up you feel helps your case, merely because they find such a course convenient in the face of inconvenient fact?

Same to you, you do you as well. Void Elves have never been stated to fulfill the High Elves the Alliance has been requesting and Ion, nor any Blizzard employee has ever re-stated what Ion said two years ago.

https://youtu.be/DkdTS_8Y61Q?t=1099

Original question, read by Jesse Cox, 'Will Mag'har Orcs and High Elves be a thing'

Spoilers guys, Blood Elves are pretty much high elves. Void elves are also pretty much another flavour of high elves.

https://youtu.be/AUik9-2ygS8?t=2845

The question is why were Void Elves chosen over high elves. I am skipping the well worn preamble wherein explains blood elves are high elves and moving straight onto his comments regarding void elves.

The Void Elf angle is tied into the story of Argus and the powers that Alleria awakened and that was able to train others to harnass (sic) was able to give something that felt a bit like a blood elf but had a unique flavour of it's own to the Alliance

Two quotes from two interviews seven months apart restating the same thing. I would argue the intent is clear. Void Elves are the replacement for high elves within the Alliance. A compromise option.

And if Ion's words aren't enough, then perhaps we should turn to a commentator you've relied upon in the past.

Taliesin and Evitel within their high elf video.

https://youtu.be/C2Sr-sadSk4?t=1025

"Because Void Elves really do feel like something that has been added to the game as a compromise. An alternative to actual high elves."

As with the attempts to argue void elves can't convert other elves into void elves, the agenda being that position is to ensure the 'high elf spot' within the Alliance remains open. If Void Elves are intended as a replacement, then that means it is lot less likely blizzard may change their minds.

Void Elves are a replacement for the high elves within the Alliance. That is abundantly clear from the statements above. After all, Taliesin recognised what they were immediately and as you've said, he's a major warcraft influencer.

Not only are they an actually playable option, but they form the other end of a thematic light-void dichotomy from the light based Blood Elves. The thing about dichotomies is you only need two parts to it. And given the exiles are as bound to the holy sunwell as the Blood Elves, they'll share the same physical destiny too.

In fact there is a transcript of Ion in that same year at Blizzcon 2018 telling someone who wants High Elves that "the door hasn't closed" and "just because they're not in BFA doesn't mean they won't be in wow ever."

Just like another fan at Blizzcon 2020 asked about darker skins for BEs and was told the truth as well.



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And if anyone wishes to say it's fake they can go ahead and link this pic to Ion and ask for confirmation over Twitter DM, as I know some people like Obelisk have done that in the past

Nobody ever said the interaction was fake. That's a strawman argument. Instead, the interaction is suspect. For one ting, there is no transcript. A transcript is a word for word record of what was said that can be analysed for nuance and for what, exactly, was said by Ion. We don't have that.

What we have is a summary, written after the fact, by a pro high elf commentator and the main take away is one line. 'The door isn't closed'. Which is analogous to 'Anything can happen in the future' i.e. the platitude they deploy on topics they aren't even considering right now.

And as has been brought up before, there are in fact guidelines for fan interactions. All Ion did was not ruin this guy's day by being overly blunt and he stated a truth nicely, that the door isn't closed. Because no door is closed. If they wanted to abolish the Alliance and Horde tomorrow, despite everything they said at Blizzcon, they could and nothing is stopping them. Instead the better question is whether they have any intent to even consider opening the door, and that is where there is zero evidence of any progress.

And the obvious difference between this interaction and the dark skins for Blood Elf interaction is that dark skins for Blood Elves were already happening and planned at that point. In fact, if you listen to the full answer Ion gave to the question in the Jessie Cox video you'll note he was asked about Mag'har Orcs as well as high elves. Mag'har Orcs, as we now know with hindsight, were already in development by this point. Notice the difference in tone regarding the Mag'har answer, which was completely open and even supportive of the idea without giving confirmation, to the high elf exile answer which was negative (as well as pushing void elves as the replacement). The dark skin tone for Blood Elf answer is more in the mag'har orc category of interactions than the high elf exile question.

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There's a story that's still going on, you know, that of the Silver Covenant VS Sunreaver.
From what we saw at BFA, the Sunreaver want their revenge, we are waiting for the next battle.
It could be much more interesting.

The Sunreavers seem to be focusing their revenge on Jaina. Given it was her decision and she gave the order, this makes sense. The Silver Covenant is superfluous to story needs right now.
If the Blood Elves need a foil from within the Alliance, it will be the Void Elves.

[Frenchvince]

The Sunreavers seem to be focusing their revenge on Jaina. Given it was her decision and she gave the order, this makes sense. The Silver Covenant is superfluous to story needs right now.
If the Blood Elves need a foil from within the Alliance, it will be the Void Elves.

Jaina can very well once again team up with her friend Vereesa and the Silver Covenant as well as Alleria and the void elves to counter this new threat.
A good scenario for obtaining high-elf customization for void elves.: p

[Obelisk Kai]

Jaina can very well once again team up with her friend Vereesa and the Silver Covenant as well as Alleria and the void elves to counter this new threat.
A good scenario for obtaining high-elf customization for void elves.: p

Could but probably won't.

And as the blue eyes for Blood Elves decision has shown, if Blizzard judges a hypothetical customisation to not match the race in question, it won't be done. This principle renders the possibility of high elf customisations on void elves incredibly unlikely.

[Frenchvince]

Could but probably won't.

And as the blue eyes for Blood Elves decision has shown, if Blizzard judges a hypothetical customisation to not match the race in question, it won't be done. This principle renders the possibility of high elf customisations on void elves incredibly unlikely.

The void elves have had all BFA for their integration into the alliance, Blizzard can very well put the high elves back in history.
There are no more barriers now.

[Kyriani]

Could but probably won't.

And as the blue eyes for Blood Elves decision has shown, if Blizzard judges a hypothetical customisation to not match the race in question, it won't be done. This principle renders the possibility of high elf customisations on void elves incredibly unlikely.

Alternatively, if Blizzard actually does intend to give some sort of "High Elf Customization" options to Void Elves, then the decision to not give Blood Elves blue eyes might have been intentional to keep them as an Alliance defining distinction between Void Elves and Blood Elves, while also attempting to appeal to those asking for playable Alliance High Elves.

I can't speak for the devs so I can't say for certain what their thought processes are and I am not willing to interpret one way or the other what certain things Ion has said actually mean for what is or isn't likely.

I will say that, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, if Blizzard decides to give any sort of High Elf-esque customization options to Void Elves, I would not expect them to be simple copy/pastes from Blood Elves. I would expect any "close-to-natural-flesh-tone" options to still be different from any that Blood Elves have, and I would not expect the exact same shades of hair color that Blood Elves have, nor their vibrancy. I would also not expect any outright duplicates of Blood Elf hairstyles. I would not be surprised however, if some of the new Human hairstyles find their way to Void Elves, perhaps with a few having a tentacle twist thrown in.

[Frenchvince]

Alternatively, if Blizzard actually does intend to give some sort of "High Elf Customization" options to Void Elves, then the decision to not give Blood Elves blue eyes might have been intentional to keep them as an Alliance defining distinction between Void Elves and Blood Elves, while also attempting to appeal to those asking for playable Alliance High Elves.

I can't speak for the devs so I can't say for certain what their thought processes are and I am not willing to interpret one way or the other what certain things Ion has said actually mean for what is or isn't likely.

I will say that, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, if Blizzard decides to give any sort of High Elf-esque customization options to Void Elves, I would not expect them to be simple copy/pastes from Blood Elves. I would expect any "close-to-natural-flesh-tone" options to still be different from any that Blood Elves have, and I would not expect the exact same shades of hair color that Blood Elves have, nor their vibrancy. I would also not expect any outright duplicates of Blood Elf hairstyles. I would not be surprised however, if some of the new Human hairstyles find their way to Void Elves, perhaps with a few having a tentacle twist thrown in.

Exactly!
KT humans (apart from their different physique) have received shades of skin and hair colors that are different from SW humans.
The same can very well happen for the void elf customization options and / or the high elf allied race.

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Regarding hairstyles, the inspiration of the style of Alleria that we find on many fan art HE is a good base.



It is quite different from the BE style which is more in brushing and neat curls.