Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[ddi2]

Or, maybe your statement has no relation to the discussion and is merely being made to distract.

Or maybe you literally pretended to answer it, twice, by ignoring my question which was literally a "yes/no" question about the fact from the game. You could have simply answered to it and then explained why it doesn't matter in your opinion but you didn't even want to mention it because it would have made your point look not strong as you'd have liked. I actually genuinely didn't know the answer though it's obvious to me now with all your dodging. And then you dare to accuse others of bAd FaCe. Yeah, not worth replying to you indeed. That's my last post to you.

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Blizzard nope, and ingame they have shown it.

But game director sadly said otherwise....so depends if he is true to his worth.

Are you talking about Ion? The closest he said, as far as I know, is that High Elves are kinda Blood elves, together with Void Elves. I don't remember him telling that High Elves and Blood Elves are literally the same thing.

[SeniorJoker]

Looks cool. Better than void elves that literally appeared from nowhere. I wish also them to be upright.

[ravenmoon]

Do you have any source for that? I think it is your headcanon.

no, not headcanon, but putting two and two together from the canon lore we have. WotA tells us they are connected to the WEll, Chronicles revealed how and why, because they are made and modified by it directly although it doesn't show us how. WotA the Sundering tells us that when the 2nd well was reformed they could feel it inside.
Warcraft website articles on eye glows that tells us they glow is because of the inner power from their connection to the WEll of eternity - which I deduce to me a link to Azeroth'z arcane blood, since the glow was never lost when the first well imploded.
Several places in lore it is remarked the blood elves hold the night elves, in particular the Darnassiasn in contempt because of the power they have had and wasted by not ustilising, this refers to the Well and Moonwell and the inner power they've being squandering out of "cowardice", "superstition" and baseless "fear" - as they put it.


Meanwhile the High elves devolved, the connection and inner arcane power lost, this to me implies there were no glowing eyes as they lost immortality, lost height, lost stature, lost intelligence and became much weaker versions of their former selves. Until they found Quel'thalas and established the sunwell, they keep themselves constantly suffused with its power, they aren't made from the sunwell, and their natural connection to the WEll of Eternity is severed (this is lore), so what they have is a man made or rather elf made artificial connection (this is the deduction I make). I imagine this to mean that these elves in a weakened state require this enhancement more than ever, but it's not on the same level as the Well of Eternity, but thye make very good use of it. When the power source is destroyed by Kael'thas (lore), I deduce gone is the eye glow, for there is no arcane power charging them up, and they have no natural inner one biologically. It's dangerous for them when their well is polluted because of how connected they are to it, meanwhile when a moonwell is polluted or the Well of Eternity imploded the night elves don't lose that connection though they notice the loss keenly (this is lore in War of the ancients and in quests), because the connection is the aracne blood of the titan (the source of the Well, not the physical pooling in a location like Zin'Azshari or Hyjal).

[Broflake]

Or maybe you literally pretended to answer it, twice, by ignoring my question which was literally a "yes/no" question about the fact from the game. You could have simply answered to it and then explained why it doesn't matter in your opinion but you didn't even want to mention it because it would have made your point look not strong as you'd have liked. I actually genuinely didn't know the answer though it's obvious to me now with all your dodging. And then you dare to accuse others of bAd FaCe. Yeah, not worth replying to you indeed. That's my last post to you.

You wrote this entire paragraph to complain I won't respond to your sealioning. I am glad you have chosen to discontinue it.

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Are you talking about Ion? The closest he said, as far as I know, is that High Elves are kinda Blood elves, together with Void Elves. I don't remember him telling that High Elves and Blood Elves are literally the same thing.

This desire to get super specific statements gets old.
"They never said no"
"They didn't say this specifically".
"Well they said NEAR future.".

Like...dude...im kinda am a big deal means...im a big deal.
Let alone he answered that where the question was "WHY VOID ELVES INSTEAD OF HIGH ELVES?"

Considering the rest of his statement, yeah, blood elves are your high elves and if that is the thing you want to play, then you go Horde.

[Strippling]

High Elves are still Alliance. No amount of headcanon can change that.

A fragmented group of high elves are aligned with the Alliance. The main high elven society are allied with the Horde. That is a fact, not headcanon.

[Broflake]

no, not headcanon, but putting two and two together from the canon lore we have. WotA tells us they are connected to the WEll, Chronicles revealed how and why, because they are made and modified by it directly although it doesn't show us how. WotA the Sundering tells us that when the 2nd well was reformed they could feel it inside.
Warcraft website articles on eye glows that tells us they glow is because of the inner power from their connection to the WEll of eternity - which I deduce to me a link to Azeroth'z arcane blood, since the glow was never lost when the first well imploded.
Several places in lore it is remarked the blood elves hold the night elves, in particular the Darnassiasn in contempt because of the power they have had and wasted by not ustilising, this refers to the Well and Moonwell and the inner power they've being squandering out of "cowardice", "superstition" and baseless "fear" - as they put it.


Meanwhile the High elves devolved, the connection and inner arcane power lost, this to me implies there were no glowing eyes as they lost immortality, lost height, lost stature, lost intelligence and became much weaker versions of their former selves. Until they found Quel'thalas and established the sunwell, they keep themselves constantly suffused with its power, they aren't made from the sunwell, and their natural connection to the WEll of Eternity is severed (this is lore), so what they have is a man made or rather elf made artificial connection (this is the deduction I make). I imagine this to mean that these elves in a weakened state require this enhancement more than ever, but it's not on the same level as the Well of Eternity, but thye make very good use of it. When the power source is destroyed by Kael'thas (lore), I deduce gone is the eye glow, for there is no arcane power charging them up, and they have no natural inner one biologically. It's dangerous for them when their well is polluted because of how connected they are to it, meanwhile when a moonwell is polluted or the Well of Eternity imploded the night elves don't lose that connection though they notice the loss keenly (this is lore in War of the ancients and in quests), because the connection is the aracne blood of the titan (the source of the Well, not the physical pooling in a location like Zin'Azshari or Hyjal).

I am not sure I agree with you here, because it is clear that the connection to moonwells/well of eternity is based around proximity. This is why they have to create a moonwell in any area they create where they will reside in for a period of time. This is why we see then prolifically, otherwise, we would see them change the same way the highborne changed into high elves over time.
I am not sure if they become weaker or less intelligent in anyway. Based on the lore, it appears they simply lose several of the night elf features such as the dark skin that is near purplish.
Also, do keep in mind tainted moonwells can transform a night elf into a satyr.

[Lahis]

A fragmented group of high elves are aligned with the Alliance. The main high elven society are allied with the Horde. That is a fact, not headcanon.

Those are known as Blood Elves. High Elves never left Alliance.

[Frenchvince]

Yes! The blood elves have short hairstyles and beards like the void elves.

It's really cool for the future!

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1263596167406870529

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3 ear size options, including half-elf.
The half-elves will probably only be a personalization option for the Thalassian elves.
I don't know if it's for NPCs or players but it's cool if the blood elves get it.

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Eye choice options for Void Elves.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Yes! The blood elves have short hairstyles and beards like the void elves.

It's really cool for the future!

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1263596167406870529

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3 ear size options, including half-elf.
The half-elves will probably only be a personalization option for the Thalassian elves.
I don't know if it's for NPCs or players but it's cool if the blood elves get it.

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Eye choice options for Void Elves.

Really unsurprised about the VE eye colors since I'm prety sure the textures for it have been there since the first build and were the ones WoWhead mistook for BE blue eyes.

Burtt what I AM shook about is the short eared options for Blood Elves! kinda hinders the idea of half elves om my gosh!

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A fragmented group of high elves are aligned with the Alliance. The main high elven society are allied with the Horde. That is a fact, not headcanon.

"A fragmented group of Eredar are aligned with the alliance. the main group of Eredar society are allied with the burning legion. that is a fact, not headcanon"

This is like you sound-

Yeah, we call those eredar Draenei, like we call the "high elves" currently on the horde, blood elves. This purposeful obfuscation of nomenclature is transparent AF

[Maxilian]

Really unsurprised about the VE eye colors since I'm prety sure the textures for it have been there since the first build and were the ones WoWhead mistook for BE blue eyes.

Burtt what I AM shook about is the short eared options for Blood Elves! kinda hinders the idea of half elves om my gosh!

But it also means that the same option is going to be given to Void Elves, and that's nice.

Hope that make the ears clip less through helmets.

[Frenchvince]

Really unsurprised about the VE eye colors since I'm prety sure the textures for it have been there since the first build and were the ones WoWhead mistook for BE blue eyes.

Burtt what I AM shook about is the short eared options for Blood Elves! kinda hinders the idea of half elves om my gosh!

It may be only for updating the half-elf NPCs, there will surely be others in the future.

We'll see.

[FossilFree]

Yes! The blood elves have short hairstyles and beards like the void elves.

It's really cool for the future!

https://twitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1263596167406870529

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3 ear size options, including half-elf.
The half-elves will probably only be a personalization option for the Thalassian elves.
I don't know if it's for NPCs or players but it's cool if the blood elves get it.

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Eye choice options for Void Elves.

It's on this article too:

https://www.wowhead.com/news=316165/...ons-new-mounts

[Frenchvince]

We have seen with other races that they can share the same options as their allied races and vice versa.
BE and VE are also concerned and it's really cool.

[Maxilian]

It may be only for updating the half-elf NPCs, there will surely be others in the future.

We'll see.

That would make me really sad

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AW, it looks like the Purple eyes for BEs are NPC only.

If they want to restrict the eye color, at least give them to Mages.

[Thalassian Bob]

Ironically part of the reason I thought Sylvanas would be a good leader of the Horde was that they wouldn't want to repeat the entire Garrosh arc with her so I gave her the benefit of the doubt during Legion. My main was even a Sylvanas loyalist (although my alt was a Saurfang devotee so I got the best of both worlds).

Yeah, I was really surprised they did just repeat the same story with another Warchief. And after all that hot air about it "definitely not being a repeat of the Garrosh storyline" too.

[Frenchvince]

AW, it looks like the Purple eyes for BEs are NPC only.

If they want to restrict the eye color, at least give them to Mages.

Apparently, blue and purple eyes are for void elves.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=316173/...ding-blue-eyes

[Maxilian]

Apparently, blue and purple eyes are for void elves.

It makes sense, though i wanted my Purple eyes. (or heck, at least give me the red ones!)

Blue eyes for VElves is really nice, and makes a lot of sense having in mind that we see HElves training with VEs in their starting zone, i kind of hope they add the short ears for both VEs and BEs, and give VEs more "less-corrupted" skin tones, so we can finally have people have, in some way and form, their HEs, also the short ears would be great for RP Realms and all those people wanting to RP Half-elves.

[bobwuzhere1224]

It makes sense, though i wanted my Purple eyes. (or heck, at least give me the red ones!)

Blue eyes for VElves is really nice, and makes a lot of sense having in mind that we see HElves training with VEs in their starting zone, i kind of hope they add the short ears for both VEs and BEs, and give VEs more "less-corrupted" skin tones, so we can finally have people have, in some way and form, their HEs, also the short ears would be great for RP Realms and all those people wanting to RP Half-elves.

I think it's safe to guess that ear options are possibility for Velves now.

[Nagawithlegs]

Going to guess that Void Elves will get High Elf eyes in 9.0 and then a High Elf skin between 9.1 and the end.

[Frenchvince]

It makes sense, though i wanted my Purple eyes. (or heck, at least give me the red ones!)

Blue eyes for VElves is really nice, and makes a lot of sense having in mind that we see HElves training with VEs in their starting zone, i kind of hope they add the short ears for both VEs and BEs, and give VEs more "less-corrupted" skin tones, so we can finally have people have, in some way and form, their HEs, also the short ears would be great for RP Realms and all those people wanting to RP Half-elves.

I agree with you, the BE and the VE should both have the ear size options even if at the level of traditions this only concerns the HE.
This will make one barrier less so that HE is a possibility later in the alliance.