Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varodoc]

Yeah, give them green eyes. I already got my popcorns ready.

[FossilFree]

While I am happy that my High Elves will be able to look closer to how I envision them, I truly hope this serves to move Void Elf and High Elf lore forward, maybe as an united entity instead as two separate groups of thalassian exiles.

Void Elves, when first introduced at Blizzcon '17, had so much potential in my mind to be the new path of High Elves in the alliance; indeed, with Alleria's journey in Argus, it felt like the perfect set up for the new chapter for High Elves. Instead, we got a previously unmentioned group of Blood Elven exiles. It was pretty frustrating to see such a good opportunity, wasted.

So I really, really hope this is the first step of a new route for the Void Elves and High Elves as one political entity, closer to what the Void Elves should have been since the beginning.

Now it's up to the writers to iron out all the wrinkles. Push the story forward and give VE a deeper narrative and relevance (yes they helped in the 4th war, but that isn't the same as complex backstories).

[FlubberPuddy]

I also remember saying that the biggest request Void Elf fans kept having were to 'look like Alleria' and we see with changes to Entropic Embrace and today's news that this is exactly what Void Elves are getting.

I remember a certain someone saying that popularity in that regard doesn't matter. They look woefully wrong now!

[Varodoc]

Now it's up to the writers to iron out all the wrinkles. Push the story forward and give VE a deeper narrative and relevance (yes they helped in the 4th war, but that isn't the same as complex backstories).

They will get more relevance in Shadows Rising, where Alleria and her forces will track down Sylvanas on behalf of the Alliance. They will obviously be in the spotlight in the inevitable Void Lords expansion.

[FossilFree]

I also remember saying that the biggest request Void Elf fans kept having were to 'look like Alleria' and we see with changes to Entropic Embrace and today's news that this is exactly what Void Elves are getting.

I remember a certain someone saying that popularity in that regard doesn't matter. They look woefully wrong now!

If that photo-negative entropic embrace makes it into live I'll be so stoked! The contrast from peach tone to dark EE will be amazing looking. I just hope they finish it by making the hair turn to that more twilightish void color (as in WoW twilight magic, not sparkle vampires) that we see Alleria's change to as well.

[Stormdash]

Now, just let the new Uni-elves be druids and we're done.

[Sigxy]

I'd rather not turn the debate into what would amount to a dick measuring contest if it's going to be reduced to "I'm more High Elven than you are!" That type of childishness belongs on a playground, not in an adult conversation.

You're taking it way too seriously, chill out. '-'

[FossilFree]

They will get more relevance in Shadows Rising, where Alleria and her forces will track down Sylvanas on behalf of the Alliance. They will obviously be in the spotlight in the inevitable Void Lords expansion.

Is that a book?

The one thing they have going for them is a mostly blank slate, so if the writers do good they will become quite epic like we all hope.

[Vargulf the Happy Husky]

so it's over right? both factions can have pretty elves with white skin and blue eyes?

if i was still playing i'd be like "ha, cool."

[Varodoc]

Is that a book?

The one thing they have going for them is a mostly blank slate, so if the writers do good they will become quite epic like we all hope.

Yes, it is the upcoming novel that sets the stage for Shadowlands.

I find them epic already. They are very underrated. Both Alleria and Umbric played a pivotal role in the Fourth War:

- Alleria saved the Alliance army from annihilation at the Battle of Lordaeron.
- Umbric helped locate the Abyssal Scepter, which was necessary to lay siege to Zuldazar.

They are not the kind of "in-your-face epic" that someone like Arthas would be. But they are still epic in their own way.

[delus]

You know, high elf fans really have the anti helf crowd to thank for this by demanding blue eyes.

[ravenmoon]

I doubt we will see any body type selections for Shadowlands. But I think we could see something like that in the future. Allowing body shapes would be a lot of work for Blizzard currently, but if it comes in the future, everyone should get options. A lot of people want Velen-like skinny draenei, less bulky humans, caster orcs, buff trolls and so on.

It's the perfect time to start, i f it works out well, couldn't we see the Kul'tirans getting human normal and thin human, while humans getting the kul'tiran bulkier type and thin model?

Nightborne/Night elf is a good start because it's teh same model essentially with just shaved down body mass and the gear fittings have already been done.

Night elves could have 3 body types:

Slim (modelled after the Nightborne) - great for highborne and caster /rogue types
Normal (modelled after the regular night elf) - great for warrior/ animal druid/hunter types
Ripped (modelled from the DH illidari) - great for meleers

but ultimately you choose, your body definition and size depends on you.

Nightborne coudl have 2 body types

Slim (normal nightborne)
bulky (night elf normal model)

[Garfurion]

Interesting announcement by Blizzard regarding the Blood and Void Elf customization options. The blue eyes for Void&Blood Elves don't really have a lot of lore significance but the Blood Elf skin-tones for Void Elves indicates that either High/Blood Elves are mastering the Void like Alleria (rather than being changed by force), or the transformation of the original Void Elves is wearing off or the original Void Elves have further mastered the Void to the point where they can suppress it enough to get their original skin-color back. I wonder if Blizzard will ever give an explanation.

Blood Elves evolved from green-eyed mana-junkies who drained a Naaru for holy powers to a traditional fantasy elf light oriented society. It seems the Void Elves are also slowly evolving from blue/grey mental-patients to a more traditional fantasy elf society. Which was to be expected ofcourse since Blizzard loves redemption stories.

If there isn't a lore explanation but Blizzard just went for the "Wildhammer" solution of giving skin/customization options to an already existing race then Blizzard effectively gave both the Horde and Alliance playable blue-eyed High Elves.

If there isn't a lore reason explaining the Void Elves new customization options it will become harder for Blizzard to deny Void Elves the customization options (e.g. hair-styles, ear-sizes, jewelry) they give to Blood Elves but at the same time it would feel unfair to Horde players if Blood Elves end up with less customization options than Void Elves.

[FossilFree]

Yes, it is the upcoming novel that sets the stage for Shadowlands.

I find them epic already. They are very underrated. Both Alleria and Umbric played a pivotal role in the Fourth War:

- Alleria saved the Alliance army from annihilation at the Battle of Lordaeron.
- Umbric helped locate the Abyssal Scepter, which was necessary to lay siege to Zuldazar.

They are not the kind of "epic" that someone like Arthas would be. But they are still epic in their own way.

They are certainly on their way, and maybe what they really need is just time. Time to be shown in the story over many patches/expansions and develop that missing lore backstory like other ARs had (especially Nightborne, I mean talk about lore!).

[FlubberPuddy]

If that photo-negative entropic embrace makes it into live I'll be so stoked! The contrast from peach tone to dark EE will be amazing looking. I just hope they finish it by making the hair turn to that more twilightish void color (as in WoW twilight magic, not sparkle vampires) that we see Alleria's change to as well.

Yes I hope for this as well!!

[Varodoc]

They are certainly on their way, and maybe what they really need is just time. Time to be shown in the story over many patches/expansions and develop that missing lore backstory like other ARs had (especially Nightborne, I mean talk about lore!).

A backstory is not necessary though. Unless the backstory somehow ties into the current story, I dont see the point in making one. The nightborne backstory was important to understanding how exactly they ended up in that position of addiction. But the void elves? Do we really need to know more about their past, aside from the fact that they were exiled for their ideals and followed Umbric in the shadows? It would be nice ofc, and maybe if they ever make Chronicles volume 4 they might dedicate a chapter to them, but in the actual game/ongoing story there are more interesting aspects about them than their past.

I would say right now what they need the most is more story development, especially for Umbric. I want to see more of him, he was very good in BfA. But again I am in no rush… it took them like 6 years to give lore development to the gnomes and trolls, so yeah.

[Rhlor]

It's the perfect time to start, i f it works out well, couldn't we see the Kul'tirans getting human normal and thin human, while humans getting the kul'tiran bulkier type and thin model?

Nightborne/Night elf is a good start because it's teh same model essentially with just shaved down body mass and the gear fittings have already been done.

Night elves could have 3 body types:

Slim (modelled after the Nightborne) - great for highborne and caster /rogue types
Normal (modelled after the regular night elf) - great for warrior/ animal druid/hunter types
Ripped (modelled from the DH illidari) - great for meleers

but ultimately you choose, your body definition and size depends on you.

Nightborne coudl have 2 body types

Slim (normal nightborne)
bulky (night elf normal model)

Speaking of which I think it is unfair that only void elves have new customizations! the other allied races deserve a little love too!

[FlubberPuddy]

If there isn't a lore reason explaining the Void Elves new customization options it will become harder for Blizzard to deny Void Elves the customization options (e.g. hair-styles, ear-sizes, jewelry) they give to Blood Elves but at the same time it would feel unfair to Horde players if Blood Elves end up with less customization options than Void Elves.

Blood Elves had more customization than Void Elves to begin with, and will continue to have more going forward in Shadowlands. But yeah I agree that whatever goes onto a Blood Elf would be harder to justify excluding from a Void Elf.

Sans the obvious things like Green/Gold Eyes or the golden ornamental jewelry/body jewelry/sun/phoenix themes.

I'm just excited to see people are going to now focus on requesting the things they want for their 'toy' without trying to keep heckling others for want they want for their own 'toys'.

Blizzard did the common parental tactic of 'let's just get them both their own each so they stop fighting with each other!'

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Speaking of which I think it is unfair that only void elves have new customizations! the other allied races deserve a little love too!

The statement of 'no improved customizations for AR' died the moment we datamined KT options on regular humans, same for Mechagnome options on regular Gnomes.

Ion even went from 'no right now' about it to 'not at release of Shadowlands.' This news story blows it even more out of the water.

So hang tight! They're coming!

[Alixie]

Green eyes and paladins for Velfs! They're the same race, right? Tee hee.
Normal skin tone elves on the Alliance. Finally. I still cant believe it.

[Doffen]

Oh no no no. This would get into Tom Cruise laughing potential if Void Elves were given that color!! LOL can't have that happening

There's already loads of people commenting the way @Varx used to do: If they give Alliance their High Elves, what will Horde get in exchange?!

Well except people tweaked it and are saying "If Alliance are getting blood elf skins what are Horde getting in exchange?!"

People have already been answering that question with, "you got your blue eyes lul"



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Druid for Blood Elves and Paladins for Void Elves? Agree with that!

That meme is single-handedly the best meme on the internet. Tom Cruise ftw!

Shadowlands is looking good eh :>