Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Pregnant Orc]

And (for now, it seems) blonde hair, all blood elf hairstyles, the racials, the underwear (Blizzard has already said Void Elves with High Elf skins will get Void Elf underwear)

And their new jewelry options. Unless I'm missing something those will be unavailable to alliance elves.

[FlubberPuddy]

Thank you for this, now to watch!

[Broflake]

Any piece of big or old software contain varying amounts of spaghetti held together with staplers and paper clips.

WoW is both massive and old. You can bet the codebase is huge mess deep down.

I stand by my theory. They never expected WoW to get as big as it did or last as long as it has.

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Thank you for this, now to watch!

I mean...its just a typical cringe video.
From a lore perspective, if a high elf chooses to become a void elf, they're giving up everything that they were to become something different.

[Fyersing]

You are presuming WoW was not coded using spaghetti and potatoes.
They would need to re-code the game to use the file descriptors for those options and I am not sure that coul be done without breaking a lot of things in WoW.

No, they wouldn't.

The game already registers "Dwarf" as a playable race. It has it's own emotes, voice files, and racial traits.
The game already registers "Dark Iron Dwarf" as a playable race. It has it's own emotes, voice files, and racial traits.

What I'm suggesting is that instead of listing each of those as completely unrelated groups on the character creation screen, they place them all under a single umbrella, specifically for the purpose of categorization and not as a matter of programmed fact. You still have to select "Dwarf" or "Dark Iron Dwarf", and these monikers are still treated as separate races, but it streamlines things for the playerbase and makes adding new variants more tenable. No coding, whatsoever.

[Softbottom]

High Elves are now part of the Horde and Alliance. GG.

[Broflake]

No, they wouldn't.

The game already registers "Dwarf" as a playable race. It has it's own emotes, voice files, and racial traits.
The game already registers "Dark Iron Dwarf" as a playable race. It has it's own emotes, voice files, and racial traits.

What I'm suggesting is that instead of listing each of those as completely unrelated groups on the character creation screen, they place them all under a single umbrella, specifically for the purpose of categorization and not as a matter of programmed fact. You still have to select "Dwarf" or "Dark Iron Dwarf", and these monikers are still treated as separate races, but it streamlines things for the playerbase and makes adding new variants more tenable. No coding, whatsoever.

Okay I see what you are referring t, and, I doubt that is going to happen. From what I have seen, whenever you are spoken to in game they use a %class or %race to speak to you.
Its not that I dislike your idea, i like it. I think its good, but I am not sure if blizzard has coded the game appropriately to do such a thing.
Lua is what they use primarily for such matters, and Lua is really, really, messy since it does not allow for such variation without really messy coding.
I could be wrong though, my experience with Lua is extremely limited compared to ASM and SQL.

[Fyersing]

Okay I see what you are referring t, and, I doubt that is going to happen. From what I have seen, whenever you are spoken to in game they use a %class or %race to speak to you.

I'm genuinely unsure what you're talking about? None of what I've suggested has any affect, whatsoever, in-game. Rather, it is a simple rearranging of the character creation screen to better facilitate new additions going forward.

If you're a Dark Iron Dwarf, the game refers to you as such; if you're a standard Dwarf, the game refers to you as such. Blizzard need not add new code or jump through hoops to achieve this... it's already done.

[FlubberPuddy]

"You won guys, you finally did it! Alliance High Elves are a thing and I could not be happier for you." - Taliesin

Feels good to hear that!

[delus]

That's how I see it. The biggest hump is over, which is getting access to a range of human skin tone options. They are literally copy/pasting the tones, no moneypaw or corrupt wish or ersatz about em.

Thus, the much smaller asks are now more likely as the big asks (having these two elf options looking the same) has been overcome.

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Exactly. This is a big hurdle overcome.

They've stated character customization is never going to stop. People can now continue to further ask for what they wish, given that they've received a very big one!

"Don't give up hope!" Afrasiabi emphasized that for a reason

The monkey paw was for those who wanted blue eyes just to spite Alliance players. I'm happy for those who genuinely wanted blue eyed blood elves though.

[FlubberPuddy]

The monkey paw was for those who wanted blue eyes just to spite Alliance players. I'm happy for those who genuinely wanted blue eyed blood elves though.

Yup, and it's as Tali says in his newest video, doesn't matter that Blood Elves have blue eyes now because Alliance High Elves are here as well.

I do agree though, many suggested it would happen in a monkey paw way due simply out of spite. I am also happy for those that genuinely wanted blue eyes on Blood Elves.

I have read some comments from the wowhead, some here, some on the official forums posts already by some of those genuine, non-spiteful individuals and it makes me super happy to see people grateful for these additions on both sides.

[Doffen]

The hair colours on the Void Elves (and maybe new BE customizations) that are blue, purple etc will fit well with dragon mortal form RP too.

Also the Alliance Vindictive Gladiator set for hunters will look really good on Void Elves going for natural colours.

Same with this. It's the raid-equivalent of the one you mentioned, and it looks very good on Blood Elves, it will look good on Void Elves too as you say.

T19 and Glad was good that season! And fits the Farstrider fantasy, it's a picture of Alleria in same colors above.

[FlubberPuddy]

I mean...its just a typical cringe video.
From a lore perspective, if a high elf chooses to become a void elf, they're giving up everything that they were to become something different.

Nah because my High Elf's look will no longer be defined by a one-time ritual that only affected very few Blood Elves.

You are actually not "giving up everything". Giving up everything is what the status quo was before yesterday's news, wherein you HAD to be a blueberry elf!

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Same with this. It's the raid-equivalent of the one you mentioned, and it looks very good on Blood Elves, it will look good on Void Elves too as you say.

T19 and Glad was good that season! And fits the Farstrider fantasy, it's a picture of Alleria in same colors above.

Oh woah!!! I'm definitely at least making a Mage and a Hunter High Elf for sure then. I always thought being able to emulate this piece of Alleria artwork would be really cool.



Hoping that change in the SL alpha that DeicideUH mentioned where our void proc looks like Alleria's stays as well to Live.

Also hoping for the warpaint that Alleria has.

Then we really can emulate her

[Broflake]

I'm genuinely unsure what you're talking about? None of what I've suggested has any affect, whatsoever, in-game. Rather, it is a simple rearranging of the character creation screen to better facilitate new additions going forward.

If you're a Dark Iron Dwarf, the game refers to you as such; if you're a standard Dwarf, the game refers to you as such. Blizzard need not add new code or jump through hoops to achieve this... it's already done.

Honest question, how familiar are you with coding in general?
I feel like there is a bit of a disparity because mind you, I understand what you want, and its a simple request, but simple things like that get really funky.

[Doffen]

Oh woah!!! I'm definitely at least making a Mage and a Hunter High Elf for sure then. I always thought being able to emulate this piece of Alleria artwork would be really cool.

Hoping that change in the SL alpha that DeicideUH mentioned where our void proc looks like Alleria's stays as well to Live.

Also hoping for the warpaint that Alleria has.

Then we really can emulate her

Yeah, I really love that set. Easily my favorite tier piece since TBC, where we got 3 good sets but after that it's been pretty bad :P

And to me it scream Eversong Woods, like the art of Alleria there running wild into the forest with that good looking equipment^^

And Alleria is my favorite High Elf :>

[Broflake]

Nah because my High Elf's look will no longer be defined by a one-time ritual that only affected very few Blood Elves.

Except they would be, because that is how you become a void elf.
Void elves are like paladins. They are beings who are inundated with the void and infused with it.
Its like Alleria in a sense.
High elves are defined by the fact that they are not corrupted by any magical force, and void elves are the definition of corruption.
Right now, the only uncorrupted variant of the race is still held by Horde.

Of course, that is alore perspective, from a design perspective?
They're the exact same. One just has blue hair.

You are actually not "giving up everything". Giving up everything is what the status quo was before yesterday's news, wherein you HAD to be a blueberry elf!

My only annoyance is mainly the fact that Alliance essentially got everything blood elves are, and blood elves haven't seemingly obtained anything in response. If we're going to melt down the differences between the two races, might as well go all in you know?

Also hoping for the warpaint that Alleria has.

Then we really can emulate her

Maybe?
They haven't shown any tattoos for blood elves either.
Of course its still alpha, so hopefully tttoos will be in themix.

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Yeah, I really love that set. Easily my favorite tier piece since TBC, where we got 3 good sets but after that it's been pretty bad :P

And to me it scream Eversong Woods, like the art of Alleria there running wild into the forest with that good looking equipment^^

And Alleria is my favorite High Elf :>

Alleria is the only windrunner worth mentioning, though I am annoyed ll the windrunners went for human potential.

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We just need some new void elf haircuts but also new hair colors such as light blue white and black.

My Kirin Tor HIgh elf will look so good

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We just need some new void elf haircuts but also new hair colors such as light blue white and black.

My Kirin Tor HIgh elf will look so good

Yeah my high elf paladin is looking good with his silverhand set.

[Amaterasu65]

Same with this. It's the raid-equivalent of the one you mentioned, and it looks very good on Blood Elves, it will look good on Void Elves too as you say.

T19 and Glad was good that season! And fits the Farstrider fantasy, it's a picture of Alleria in same colors above.

This looks really nice, pity I don't enjoy the hunter class that much. I even have Thoris'dal in my bank... on my mage! Wonder if I should switch from Human to VE after this. Can make some really nice pant-mogs which doesn't look good on human males, on cloth at least.

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We just need some new void elf haircuts but also new hair colors such as light blue white and black.

My Kirin Tor HIgh elf will look so good

I'm so happy we can fulfill the Alliance blue eyed fantasy now. Blue with the blue. Also Kirin Tor x High Elf is a really good combo.

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My only annoyance is mainly the fact that Alliance essentially got everything blood elves are, and blood elves haven't seemingly obtained anything in response. If we're going to melt down the differences between the two races, might as well go all in you know?

Blood Elves still have more customizations though, like the Valeera-esque hairstyle, jewellry etc. I know that more customizations will come to those two races as was mentioned in the post, but I think they will try to keep the core race as the more loaded one.

[Doffen]

Alleria is the only windrunner worth mentioning, though I am annoyed ll the windrunners went for human potential.

Yeah, I was a big fan of Sylvanas before, but I don't like the way they went with her. To me she was best when she was lurking behind, scheming.

Alleria is fine I think, she got some personality at least. Looks good as well. As in design, equipment and such.

[Ielenia]

It's the same as Wildhammer/Sand Trolls. Also they are, in fact, a playable option because y'know - people can play as them.

Sorry that you are having trouble with that.

Sorry, but it seems you're the one that don't understand the difference:

You can "play" as an Alliance high elf in Shadowlands just as much as you could "play" as a demon hunter back in TBC by being a rogue and wielding Illidan's warglaives and wearing his blindfold.

You can roleplay as one, but you are not one.