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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Sorry, but it seems you're the one that don't understand the difference:

    You can "play" as an Alliance high elf in Shadowlands just as much as you could "play" as a demon hunter back in TBC by being a rogue and wielding Illidan's warglaives and wearing his blindfold.

    You can roleplay as one, but you are not one.
    So you are also saying that wildhammer Dwarves and sandfury trolls aren't coming to the game either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    Meh...im annoyed because their story always involves a human as their lover influencing them in some way.
    I want independence!
    I WANT ANGER!
    I WANT ELF RACISTS!
    we need questlines where a Blood Elf guy tells you to kill some Human/Draenei for "stealing" his Blood Elf girlfriend
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    I would rather see them rejoin the blood elves.
    With Sylvanas gone, there is no windrunner representation for the Horde.
    The Horde doesnt need any.
    But Vereesa could act as an Alliance representative in Silvermoon. That would be awesome.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  4. #18264
    Quote Originally Posted by delus View Post
    So you are also saying that wildhammer Dwarves and sandfury trolls aren't coming to the game either?
    That is a case of false equivalency.
    The difference between a wildhammer dwarf and sandfury troll is skin deep.
    The difference between a void and a high elf literally has an entire questline dedicated to what makes them different.

    high elves rely on the sunwell.
    Void elves dont.
    High elves have normal hair.
    Void elves have tentacles.

    Alleria is classified as a void elf despite her appearance, and not a high elf.
    So, why is it that you want the looks of Alleria, the powers of Alleria, but not the racial classification?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    we need questlines where a Blood Elf guy tells you to kill some Human/Draenei for "stealing" his Blood Elf girlfriend
    YES!
    This would be hilarious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    Sorry, but it seems you're the one that don't understand the difference:

    You can "play" as an Alliance high elf in Shadowlands just as much as you could "play" as a demon hunter back in TBC by being a rogue and wielding Illidan's warglaives and wearing his blindfold.

    You can roleplay as one, but you are not one.
    Same goes for Blood Elves with blue eyes. Still not a High Elf and we all have to roleplay as Quel’dorei. Nothing has changed except that the Alliance doesn’t have to suspend disbelief as much anymore.

  6. #18266
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    The Horde doesnt need any.
    But Vereesa could act as an Alliance representative in Silvermoon. That would be awesome.
    Sure they do, it creates parity between the factions which is important.
    Lor'themar has made it quite clear he has no interest in anything to do with the Alliance, so there will never be an ALliance representative in Silvermoon.
    It wouldn't make much sense story wise either since Vereesa and Lorthemar hate each other for unknown reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Covenant View Post
    Same goes for Blood Elves with blue eyes. Still not a High Elf and we all have to roleplay as Quel’dorei. Nothing has changed except that the Alliance doesn’t have to suspend disbelief as much anymore.
    The description of blood elves calls them high elves. The devs state they are high elves.
    I cannot understand this insistence on refusing what has been reiterated over the past 15 years on the blood elf title being a title.

  7. #18267
    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    That is a case of false equivalency.
    The difference between a wildhammer dwarf and sandfury troll is skin deep.
    The difference between a void and a high elf literally has an entire questline dedicated to what makes them different.

    high elves rely on the sunwell.
    Void elves dont.
    High elves have normal hair.
    Void elves have tentacles.

    Alleria is classified as a void elf despite her appearance, and not a high elf.
    So, why is it that you want the looks of Alleria, the powers of Alleria, but not the racial classification?

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    YES!
    This would be hilarious
    So you're saying that they are different because high elves can't learn to use void magic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    Sure they do, it creates parity between the factions which is important.
    Lor'themar has made it quite clear he has no interest in anything to do with the Alliance, so there will never be an ALliance representative in Silvermoon.
    It wouldn't make much sense story wise either since Vereesa and Lorthemar hate each other for unknown reasons.
    Vereesa hates Rommath, not Lorthemar
    Auric Sunchaser is still Alliance given that Auric's Angels exist
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Quote Originally Posted by delus View Post
    So you're saying that they are different because high elves can't learn to use void magic?
    No. Let me go into detail to help clarify.
    What is the difference between a demon hunter and a warlock?
    Demon hunters have a demon in them, and are infused with fel energy.
    Warlock's aren't infused with it, and simply use it.
    Its the difference between someone who holds a sword in hand and swing it at you, versus someone who is part sword and conjures them from their hands.

    Void elves are the latter category. They ARE the void.
    Shadow priests are the former. They USE the void but are not the void.

    This is the same for Death knights versus necromancers.
    One is MADE of death magic while the other uses it.


    This is why Void elves are different from high elves/blood elves.
    They don't need a sunwell which is a huge change from what high elves/blood elves are.
    Void elves also have tentacle hair...which is certainly different from high/blood elves who dont.

    It is why the insistence of the claim is silly.
    If you really think that having a pale skin tone changes what you are, then what was it you really wanted in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    Vereesa hates Rommath, not Lorthemar
    Auric Sunchaser is still Alliance given that Auric's Angels exist
    Auric's sunchasers is a reference to Charlie's angels. Auric himself never formed such a group. Last we saw, he was at the Sunwell wanting the high elves an blood elves to re-unifiy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    Meh...im annoyed because their story always involves a human as their lover influencing them in some way.
    I want independence!
    I WANT ANGER!
    I WANT ELF RACISTS!
    Sounds like you'd love the Blood Elves. They're all those things among more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    No. Let me go into detail to help clarify.
    What is the difference between a demon hunter and a warlock?
    Demon hunters have a demon in them, and are infused with fel energy.
    Warlock's aren't infused with it, and simply use it.
    Its the difference between someone who holds a sword in hand and swing it at you, versus someone who is part sword and conjures them from their hands.

    Void elves are the latter category. They ARE the void.
    Shadow priests are the former. They USE the void but are not the void.

    This is the same for Death knights versus necromancers.
    One is MADE of death magic while the other uses it.
    Maybe that's not true anymore.

  12. #18272
    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    Sounds like you'd love the Blood Elves. They're all those things among more.
    I have a blood elf, but I want to see the story illustrate this as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delus View Post
    Maybe that's not true anymore.
    Always a possibility, Blizzard is using shadowlands as an opportunity to walk back on a lot of their lore and design philosophies.
    Frostmourne originally was demon made, now it is from the Shadowlands.

    I do hope they don't, because it just removes any other unique aspects void elves had left.
    If people perceive WoW is a game where factions are in name only, then the only thing WoW will have is sunk costs to it.

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    That post about the future culture that finds this thread made me giggle.

    Also: maybe people can finally understand the horde as the bad choice that it is now that those anime elves are available to both. Recently played a be dh for the two sides of every tale achievement for the cool wolf and myyyyyy god... War campaign is ultra lame,ogrimar is super annoying, the pyramid is super annoying, the whole faction is so bad I just think that people race changing to horde for reeeeasons is one of the biggest myth and fake tale of the internet. The players in random dungeons were ultra bad. Not a hundred of my dream elves of pure azsharian glory could convince me to play horde
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  14. #18274
    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    I would rather see them rejoin the blood elves.
    With Sylvanas gone, there is no windrunner representation for the Horde.

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    The matters I am hoping to cope with go beyond the matter of pixels. Best keep your psychic roleplay to yourself.
    But hey, if you need to pretend someone is salty over something to feel good, go for it. Seems a little sad though.


    Maybe.
    They did show purple for blood elves in the past datamine despite it being NPC flagged along with blue eyes
    Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    Sure they do, it creates parity between the factions which is important.
    Lor'themar has made it quite clear he has no interest in anything to do with the Alliance, so there will never be an ALliance representative in Silvermoon.
    It wouldn't make much sense story wise either since Vereesa and Lorthemar hate each other for unknown reasons.
    And Vereesa has made it quite clear she hates the Horde and especially the blood elf leadership. See the Thas'dorah questline.
    You will never get any of the Windrunner sisters.

    But for the sake of "parity", just give us the western, unused part of Silvermoon please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.
    It would be damn exciting to witness a civil war in Quel'Thalas.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.
    Honest question...I remember in three sister the voics in Alleria's head said she had rights to the throne.
    I don't get how that was the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    Fair enough on the others, but I mean post-WotLK especially on WoD and BFA when they were absent
    Well, maybe some of the blood elf "high elves" we will see running around will be some of those Argent high elves who came home to help rebuild after the Northrend campaign, but the Silver Covenant is probably another story. Think about their actions in that time. After Northrend, Vereesa sneaked a cadre of rangers into Quel'Thalas (admittedly at Halduron's behest), breaching their exile, they then violently purged the Sunreavers from Dalaran, murdering resistant civilians, they subsequently worked against blood elven efforts on the Isle of Thunder campaign. It was only in Legion when the Silver Covenant started working indirectly with the blood elves through pledging allegiance to the hunters of the Unseen Path.

    All of those actions are gonna lead to Lor'themar probably extending the ban on entry to Quel'Thalas for high elves who pledge themselves to Vereesa indefinitely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Don't worry. Soon the blood elves will have a new monarch, and this one will be a Windrunner.
    Quel'Thalas has no king. Quel'Thalas needs no king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    And Vereesa has made it quite clear she hates the Horde and especially the blood elf leadership. See the Thas'dorah questline.
    You will never get any of the Windrunner sisters.

    But for the sake of "parity", just give us the western, unused part of Silvermoon please.
    Vereesa made it clear she sympathized with her people more.
    Western silvermoon is rebuilt post TBC.
    What makes you think the blood elves would tolerate void elves being in their home after practicing forbidden magic?
    Or alliance high elf loyalists who abandoned their home? Seems a stretch.


    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    It would be damn exciting to witness a civil war in Quel'Thalas.
    You mean an invasion ~_^

  19. #18279
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I think we all win, everyone has what they want, you have your void elves with more customizations that are still void elves. and we have new eyes and hair color !! blue hair!!!
    congrats to all !! The purple eyes for my mage are coming !!! blue will be for my hunter and blue hair !!!
    How dare you be so reasonable!!

    I think in the end we do need to concentrate on getting some of the things we wanted. It's true not everyone got exactly what they wanted but at least the begging for alliance high elves will finally stop.
    Blood Elves are High Elves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalassian Bob View Post
    Well, maybe some of the blood elf "high elves" we will see running around will be some of those Argent high elves who came home to help rebuild after the Northrend campaign, but the Silver Covenant is probably another story. Think about their actions in that time. After Northrend, Vereesa sneaked a cadre of rangers into Quel'Thalas (admittedly at Halduron's behest), breaching their exile, they then violently purged the Sunreavers from Dalaran, murdering resistant civilians, they subsequently worked against blood elven efforts on the Isle of Thunder campaign. It was only in Legion when the Silver Covenant started working indirectly with the blood elves through pledging allegiance to the hunters of the Unseen Path.

    All of those actions are gonna lead to Lor'themar probably extending the ban on entry to Quel'Thalas for high elves who pledge themselves to Vereesa indefinitely.



    Quel'Thalas has no king. Quel'Thalas needs no king.
    I can also see that, especially after the alleria incident. It is a shame she got screwed over.
    Void elvesshould have been a horde thing.

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