Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[gurutikka]

I think this is going to have to happen. Blizzard is so, so close to pleasing all the "give us High Elves" folk, but if we're stuck with Sort-of-high-elves with high elves skin and eyes, but tentacle-hair and no light hair colours then they're just tripping on the finish line.

All they need to do is to let Void Elves use non-tentacle-y hair and some regular hair colours and they're golden

Exactly. 100% Agree.

And also they need to update Void Elf lore and mention that since the events of BFA, many High Elf wayfarers and scholars arrived in Telgrus rift and decided to learn the ways of the Void. They did not undergo the same sacrificial ritual which explains why their skin color didn't change but they did successfully manage to bend the Void to their will thanks to the teachings of Locustmaster and Alleria Windrunner.

[Rhlor]

I think this is going to have to happen. Blizzard is so, so close to pleasing all the "give us High Elves" folk, but if we're stuck with Sort-of-high-elves with high elves skin and eyes, but tentacle-hair and no light hair colours then they're just tripping on the finish line.

All they need to do is to let Void Elves use non-tentacle-y hair and some regular hair colours and they're golden

hair colors make them different from blood elves, void hairstyles are part of the aesthetics of void elves.

[FlubberPuddy]

you know i wish void elves would get black, brown, red hair too because the high elf skin tones look rather odd with void elf hair colors.

I'm sure it's coming. Every race so far has gotten new hair colors, it would be odd for any single race to not get additional hair colors (or "fur" colors in the case of taurens/vulpera/pandas).

Just like how Void Elves are receiving additional eye color options, same with Night Elves, because with the character creation overhaul it would be weird to have races with no eye color selection.

And yeah I know there's already multiple hair colors vs eye color for some races, I'm just saying more hair colors are pretty much a given. What kinds of color is truly the question.

[elbleuet]

hair colors make them different from blood elves, void hairstyles are part of the aesthetics of void elves.

Don't be too confident. For 2 years we have been told fair skinned is what made them different from the void elves...

But I agree. Just give us some new cold colors and hairstyles. Let the Blood elves keep the blond/brown hairs.

[gurutikka]

I'm sure it's coming. Every race so far has gotten new hair colors, it would be odd for any single race to not get additional hair colors (or "fur" colors in the case of taurens/vulpera/pandas).

Just like how Void Elves are receiving additional eye color options, same with Night Elves, because with the character creation overhaul it would be weird to have races with no eye color selection.

And yeah I know there's already multiple hair colors vs eye color for some races, I'm just saying more hair colors are pretty much a given. What kinds of color is truly the question.

Another thing that will be odd is that it will be hard to roleplay as a High Elf wayfarer because as far as we know High Elves don't have a British type accent. All the High Elf npcs ingame don't have these accents, they have the regular accents so when you hear this British accent coming out of mouth of your High Elf-Void Elf character, it will odd.

[Varodoc]

Keep in mind that these are just the skin tones.... we have yet to see the new hairstyles, hair color, jewelry, etc. that void elves will receive.

[FlubberPuddy]

Another thing that will be odd is that it will be hard to roleplay as a High Elf wayfarer because as far as we know High Elves don't have a British type accent. All the High Elf npcs ingame don't have these accents, they have the regular accents so when you hear this British accent coming out of mouth of your High Elf-Void Elf character, it will odd.

I think at that point it's too little of difference for Blizzard to care.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=311958/...in-shadowlands

But using that wowhead link, and going through every race's early preview - only 2 races (Gnomes and Humans) didn't get additional hair colors in the first pass previews.

Out of the 11 options there, 9 have received NEW hair colors. That's ~82%.

So it's highly likely every race is going to get at least 3 additional hair colors (3 is the minimum I saw for those that did have new colors).

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=312076/...in-shadowlands

Goblins also get new hair colors. Brings it to ~83%.

So out of the 12 original races, 10 have new hair colors, and it's very likely so will gnomes and humans.

[gurutikka]

I think at that point it's too little of difference for Blizzard to care.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=311958/...in-shadowlands

But using that wowhead link, and going through every race's early preview - only 2 races (Gnomes and Humans) didn't get additional hair colors in the first pass previews.

Out of the 11 options there, 9 have received NEW hair colors. That's ~82%.

So it's highly likely every race is going to get at least 3 additional hair colors (3 is the minimum I saw for those that did have new colors).

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=312076/...in-shadowlands

Goblins also get new hair colors. Brings it to ~83%.

So out of the 12 original races, 10 have new hair colors, and it's very likely so will gnomes and humans.

Until Blizzard lore team actually inserts more story to the Void Elves adding the fact that High Elves joined the ranks of the Void Elves, I still kinda will feel even with all those customizations that they aren't the race we originally wanted. I am happy to a certain extent but also not fully happy because it is kinda of a cheap way to avoid adding high elves as an alliance allied race.

[Yarathir]

Literally, guys. LITERALLY!

Man, High Elf fans are such monsters! How dare they do this?!

I don't know man I'm literally crying and shaking the High Elf fans I know wouldn't do that.

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I hate the idea of undead using blood elves, if you want to play as an undead elf play a DK or a forsaken that's the undead fantasy!

if you want to give elf ears to the forsaken model I agree

like this

Wtf I love our new High Forsaken, High Orc and High Dwarf allied races.

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Keep in mind that these are just the skin tones.... we have yet to see the new hairstyles, hair color, jewelry, etc. that void elves will receive.

Can't wait for some more eldritch void tentacle hairstyles. :b

[Rathwell]

Keep in mind that these are just the skin tones.... we have yet to see the new hairstyles, hair color, jewelry, etc. that void elves will receive.

What is making you feel like they're going to get hairstyles and hair colors? Didnt Blizzard say that the upcoming overhaul to the customization system would only apply to the original races, not the new ones? The Void Elves getting skin tones was just for the High Elf debacle, other than that I don't think any other Allied races are getting anything?

[Frenchvince]

I think at that point it's too little of difference for Blizzard to care.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=311958/...in-shadowlands

But using that wowhead link, and going through every race's early preview - only 2 races (Gnomes and Humans) didn't get additional hair colors in the first pass previews.

Out of the 11 options there, 9 have received NEW hair colors. That's ~82%.

So it's highly likely every race is going to get at least 3 additional hair colors (3 is the minimum I saw for those that did have new colors).

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https://www.wowhead.com/news=312076/...in-shadowlands

Goblins also get new hair colors. Brings it to ~83%.

So out of the 12 original races, 10 have new hair colors, and it's very likely so will gnomes and humans.

It's not updated on wowhead! XD
Gnomes and humans have also received new hair colors, we saw them in Stiven's video datamining.
All races received 3 or more new hair colors.

Gnomes https://youtu.be/u17mnWw_PuI
Humans https://youtu.be/YXoSDkU0eCs

[Oswen]

I can see Void Elves getting a pale blonde Alleria-like hair colour option, not sure about new hairstyles though.

Ranger war paints can work for both Void and Blood Elves, they could just differentiate them by colour (Void Elf=Blue, Blood Elf=Red), by patterns or both.
Blood Elves should also get runic tattoos, Void Elf somekind of void versions of that.

[Varodoc]

What is making you feel like they're going to get hairstyles and hair colors? Didnt Blizzard say that the upcoming overhaul to the customization system would only apply to the original races, not the new ones? The Void Elves getting skin tones was just for the High Elf debacle, other than that I don't think any other Allied races are getting anything?

Wrong. Mechagnomes received new customization options. Plus they can change their mind. I'd say the High Elf debate proved that.

[Frenchvince]

Ranger war paints can work for both Void and Blood Elves, they could just differentiate them by colour (Void Elf=Blue, Blood Elf=Red), by patterns or both.

I would even see two different colors for each, blue / purple for the void elves and red / green for the blood elves.

[Rathwell]

Random suggestion, but I noticed in the previews, all the non-Voidy Void Elves were given regular Blood Elf underwear. Why not give them something recolored to fit the Alliance elves, and distinguish them slightly more from the Belves?

[DeicideUH]

and why do we have blue eyes now? What are you saying that we cannot be the high elves that returned home next to auric? I think you are wrong about that.

It is part of our aesthetic, the void elves have their own aesthetic. remember that umbric is a magister they could use void tattoos with arcane styles.

You have blue eyes because Blizzard is allowing people to make their character as they envision it. There could always be some high elves returning to Silvermoon, you can just make your character one of them if you so wish. Enjoy it, but it doesnt mean there was a big shift in the story. Blizzard, thankfully, is just allowing more options for players.

Perhaps he would be loyal to Silvermoon but not Horde just as how Valeera is loyal to Wrynns but not Alliance

Considering the Alliance just got "Auric's Angels" in BfA, I'd say he's still Alliance.

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Random suggestion, but I noticed in the previews, all the non-Voidy Void Elves were given regular Blood Elf underwear. Why not give them something recolored to fit the Alliance elves, and distinguish them slightly more from the Belves?

It's confirmed they will have regular void elf underwear. The images are just mock-ups.

[Broflake]

Some players are complaining that BE & HE will now be exactly the same. An excellent way to create the distinction is to give high elves their legacy warpaint. Blood elves design diverged from this in WC3, and it would be silly to revert BEs to high elf designs. Part of the whole point of high elves is that they never left that way of thinking behind. BEs would get their acane runes that fit the BE design philosophy and way of thinking. Problem solved.

High elves didn't have warpaint, the only character that did was in WC2 and that was Alleria.
It i also stated that the blood elves have maintained their way of thinking. It is the high elves that have left their traditions and their people behind.

[Yarathir]

Random suggestion, but I noticed in the previews, all the non-Voidy Void Elves were given regular Blood Elf underwear. Why not give them something recolored to fit the Alliance elves, and distinguish them slightly more from the Belves?

They'll have Void Elf underwear.

[Broflake]

Light and void are cosmically opposite forces only after the Chronicles have been released, giving us an actual chart to compare cosmic forces to begin with. Only a couple of years after the Chronicles were released, we've already seen a senior storyteller say how that's basically what the titans thing of the universe, leaving everything up in the air depending on how truthful the titans' takes are. Up untill at least Cataclysm, light was the stark opposite of death too and they changed that very easily.

My entire point is that whatever lore is canon right now is pointless to latch onto because it can change within a single patch, let alone an expansion or major story source like a book, novel and so on. Don't be surprised if they turn their back on their own lore as it stands today and make void elf paladins in the future. That is all I am saying.

The one that wanted Illidan to the "Chosen One" was Xe'ra, a Naaru, and Naaru have shown us to be no less the individuals than any other characters we've met. We've seen that their ideas differ, as is witnessed through A'dal's take on things.

That is a fair point, and honestly I don't like how things have been shifted about purely for the sake of jutifying design choices. Again, I would not be surprised if suddenly there were void elf paladins.

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Literally, guys. LITERALLY!

Man, High Elf fans are such monsters! How dare they do this?!

Monsters? Hardly, but t would be false to not say essentially what occurred is the copy pasta of a horde race

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Well Alleria is a "normal elf" and is considered Ren'dorei. I would imagine it would take more than just "showing interest" but rather "active study". I can't speak for the devs of course, but I would say its not unreasonable to assume that anyone willing to study the void would be welcome as members of the Ren'dorei, though you might not be considered a "graduate" from "void school" until you can take on your void form.

Uhhh, Alleria is not a "normal"elf. She is considered a Ren'dorei because like them, she has changed in such a fundamental way that calling herself a high elf doesn't really fit. Plus, void elves bleed purple. Very anti-elf like

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Don't be too confident. For 2 years we have been told fair skinned is what made them different from the void elves...

But I agree. Just give us some new cold colors and hairstyles. Let the Blood elves keep the blond/brown hairs.

Can we get tentacle hairs too since those are void elf exclusive?
I mean,if we're swapping stuff and VE get skin tones, I think its fair to get tentacle hair made of light.
Xe'ra had light tentacles

[DeicideUH]

I would even see two different colors for each, blue / purple for the void elves and red / green for the blood elves.

Let's raise to three: blue, violet and magenta for void elves; red, green and gold for blood elves.