1. #18521
    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    See, that is the thing. When he speaking of it he said if you want to say you are of the sandfury now you can. It does not necessarily mean the tribe itself joined, but you as an individual may have done so. I think its partially to appeal to the rp'ers.
    I am unsure what it means for void elves since they're in unusual circumstances.
    For void elves, I think it means you can roleplay as a void elf that kept his normal skin like Alleria, or as a high elf if you so wish. But I think the former is the more likely intention of the devs.

    And just to clarify: I have no problem with people wanting to be a high elf in the Horde. My problem is people spunning headcanon as if it were lore. There's nowhere saying Auric led a group back to the Horde. What is known is that he is or at least was the high elf representative that watched over high elf pilgrims on Quel'danas, and, as far as we know, is still an Alliance character, as the Auric's Angels team indicates. It's the part of made up lore that I get riled up about.
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    Whatever...

  2. #18522
    Ha, Blizzard actually went and did it, gave fair skin elves to Alliance. Still, these are not High Elves so Blizzard is not getting any money from me.
    But I think this probably does indeed kill potential High Elves for good, so I'll stop getting involved with the topic period. Those who are happy, congrats!

    Quote Originally Posted by baskev View Post
    If you want high elves...the horde is there for you....< his qoute....
    No, he said 'if you want fair-skinned, light-haired, blue-eyed elves, the horde is there waiting for you. Not High Elves.

  3. #18523
    https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statu...44241258950656

    I posted under Ion's response, like many others, my request for void elves to get new "more natural" hair colors and new tentacle-free haircuts.
    You never know, they could discuss it again around a table.

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  4. #18524
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    For void elves, I think it means you can roleplay as a void elf that kept his normal skin like Alleria, or as a high elf if you so wish. But I think the former is the more likely intention of the devs.
    That is what I am thinking as well. That basically, you're like an Alleria void elf.
    I mean either way, this change wasn't good for the Horde.

  5. #18525
    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    That is what I am thinking as well. That basically, you're like an Alleria void elf.
    I mean either way, this change wasn't good for the Horde.
    You'll eventually see it's nowhere as bad as you feel it is after it goes live.
    Whatever...

  6. #18526
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    You'll eventually see it's nowhere as bad as you feel it is after it goes live.
    Uhhh...it pretty much is.
    The horde had their most popular race from a design perspective, made neutral. That is pretty significant.

    The Alliance, not only gets to keep their void elf aesthetics (tentacles, unnatural skin), but also get access to natural skin tones.
    The horde doesn't get anything in exchange, this is a big win for those who really wanted to look like Alleria, but for the Horde they lost out. Simply because the Horde doesn't get anything except blue eyes, which they had through DKs anyway.

    Body jewelry? That was already planned for them.
    Accessories? Same thing.
    Tattoos? Always was on the table.

    Now as I said, I benefit from this because I play alliance. The void elf racial teleport is really good for an immobile DK.
    Objectively speaking though? Unless they drastically change the nightborne and give them a ton of customizations night elves have already, then there won't really be parity. WHich...is not surprising. Horde generally have less going for them unless you're a hardcore raider. Since Alliance wield that M+ torch hard.

    But if we're going to be objective and consider players on both sides of the spectrum, this wasn't something that provided a meaningful benefit for Hordes and it never would have.

    Now the only negative is that these changes now completely overshadow the void elf theme. Doesn't matter what they do.
    It doesn't matter though because you can still access it on a whim.
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  7. #18527
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    Quote Originally Posted by Broflake View Post
    The horde doesn't get anything in exchange.
    I'd say blue eyes, which was High Elf exclusive

    It's not pie you still have your rights. Just be happy already that the High Elf Allied Race will never happen now
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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  8. #18528
    Quote Originally Posted by Rathwell View Post
    Good, the red would look so odd on a Void Elf!
    The preview (and probably first Alpha builds where these are available) were just hastily cobbled together with direct port of Blood Elf textures.

  9. #18529
    Quote Originally Posted by ddi2 View Post
    Ha, Blizzard actually went and did it, gave fair skin elves to Alliance. Still, these are not High Elves so Blizzard is not getting any money from me.
    But I think this probably does indeed kill potential High Elves for good, so I'll stop getting involved with the topic period. Those who are happy, congrats!



    No, he said 'if you want fair-skinned, light-haired, blue-eyed elves, the horde is there waiting for you. Not High Elves.
    to the question about high elves........

    Thats like me asking for a apple and you saying...nope we only have a fruit that grows from a tree, fell on newtons head and the nickname for new york share's a bit of the name...aka the big...apple....

  10. #18530
    At the very least Void Elves ARE getting the same black hair Blood Elves are getting. One of the male Void Elves in the preview is showcasing it.

  11. #18531
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    Hopefully they'll also add arcane eyes for both

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  12. #18532
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    I'd say blue eyes, which was High Elf exclusive
    You mean the same eyes on several named horde NPC'?
    It wasn't exclusive.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    It's not pie you still have your rights. Just be happy already that the High Elf Allied Race will never happen now
    In this case? Yes. It is pie.
    Factions have their diversity based off what they offer. This took away a substantial aspect of what they offer.

  13. #18533
    Quote Originally Posted by Maljinwo View Post
    Hopefully they'll also add arcane eyes for both

    They are in the files for both already, thought they were flagged as NPC-only on last build. However, the void elf preview images had void elves with violet eyes, so I'm also hoping for it.
    Whatever...

  14. #18534
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    They are in the files for both already, thought they were flagged as NPC-only on last build. However, the void elf preview images had void elves with violet eyes, so I'm also hoping for it.
    I'm afraid they'll remain NPC only. With thalassian being so magically gifted, it'd make sense to have those eyes available for players
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  15. #18535
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    They are in the files for both already, thought they were flagged as NPC-only on last build. However, the void elf preview images had void elves with violet eyes, so I'm also hoping for it.
    What he said.

    If I remember right they did show it for both under NPC only but those may have been low res version they use for the NPC's.

    I am extremely hopeful

  16. #18536
    I'd also like to see violet eyes. Seems like an easy win all around in my book.

  17. #18537
    Violet eyes are Void Elves only it seems.

  18. #18538
    There are already purple eyes for the void elf in the presentation of Blizzard, we can say that it is official for them.



  19. #18539
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchvince View Post
    There are already purple eyes for the void elf in the presentation of Blizzard, we can say that it is official for them.


    Just like with the blood elves using DK-only hair colors, I'll wait until it's clarified. Besides, even if the eye may be confirmed for void elves, there's still the question about the blood elven version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    Violet eyes are Void Elves only it seems.
    They are in the files for blood elves as well, thought NPC-only as per the last build.
    Whatever...

  20. #18540
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    They are in the files for blood elves as well, thought NPC-only as per the last build.
    Is it the exact same color? The washed out white in the center of that image doesn't really look right for blood elves imo.

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