Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Frenchvince]

Belf = green / golden / blue eyes

Velf = silver / blue / purple eyes

3 color variants each, it's a good sharing I think.

[Ardenaso]

You mean the same eyes on several named horde NPC'?

If you're talking about blue eyes in the Purge of Dalaran they were already ruled as mere oversights and errors

[Broflake]

Belf = green / golden / blue eyes

Velf = silver / blue / purple eyes

3 color variants each, it's a good sharing I think.

....Screw that we demand more.

I want red. >=(

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If you're talking about blue eyes in the Purge of Dalaran they were already ruled as mere oversights and errors

I am not talking about them. I am talking about sunreavers, sunreaver assassins, sunreaver captains, firebought, brightsun, steelweaver, and a number of others.

[Frenchvince]

....Screw that we demand more.

I want red. >=(

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I am not talking about them. I am talking about sunreavers, sunreaver assassins, sunreaver captains, firebought, brightsun, steelweaver, and a number of others.

And undead skin that goes with it. Maybe Blizzard will add it later.

[DeicideUH]

Is it the exact same color? The washed out white in the center of that image doesn't really look right for blood elves imo.

No, they are slightly different, with the belf version having clear pupils:




I see no reason to deny either for players, so I hope the NPC flag is removed.

[protip]

No, they are slightly different, with the belf version having clear pupils:

[img]https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/938480.jpg[img]
[img]https://wow.zamimg.com/uploads/screenshots/normal/938425.jpg[img]

Ok, that's exactly what I was curious about. That looks really good to me, thanks.

[Ardenaso]

I am talking about sunreavers, sunreaver assassins, sunreaver captains

that's exactly what I meant in "blue eyes in the Purge of Dalaran"

Also brightsun and firebough aren't Horde, they're neutral pirates/privateers; if they were Horde they would be openly hostile to the Alliance PC - just as how the Quel'lithians are friendly to the Alliance but aren't Alliance

You're right about steelweaver however, but that makes him an extreme minority that Ion only granted access in Shadowlands

[FlubberPuddy]

https://twitter.com/WatcherDev/statu...44241258950656

I posted under Ion's response, like many others, my request for void elves to get new "more natural" hair colors and new tentacle-free haircuts.
You never know, they could discuss it again around a table.

So Ion's response there confirms that just because they say one thing at a time it doesn't mean that's permanent and never going to change. His answer implies the decision to give High Elves to both came recently.

We'll have to take his word for it though at this point that'd be pretty naive I say.

I just think in general, now that we've seen a lot of inconsistency recently from dev answers, the requests from players will always continue until there's actual finality to something.

Also for High Elf customizations going forward, since we inherited the skin tones of Blood Elves I can see later on inheriting some hair colors also. Maybe not all, but definitely some. As Kyriani pointed out we're def getting black hair for Void Elves as it's on the preview of the male model.

Who knows how many more and if any will be akin to a blonde or blonde-like.

But I am glad that in that twitter post it is showing there's many that do want those options.

ALSO! Looks like it indeed only 'required' sub 1k people to request High Elves and get it granted

[DeicideUH]

New Blood Elf/Nightborne short story featuring Lor'themar and Thalyssra.

“War has come, war will come again, I am old enough to have watched my people rise and fall and rise once more, and I myself have withered like the winter tree before blossoming anew.”

A new World of Warcraft short story is now available to read: A Moment in Verse!

First Arcanist Thalyssra and Regent-Lord Lor'themar Theron set aside the troubles of their individual worlds to spend one beautiful evening in a contest of verse—and in each other's hearts.

We’re excited to share this bright and charming new tale by Madeleine Roux (author of the upcoming Shadows Rising novel) with everyone, and we hope you enjoy a brief escape into the tranquility of Suramar.

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(Horde bias, lol)
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[Yarathir]

There are already purple eyes for the void elf in the presentation of Blizzard, we can say that it is official for them.

They basically just seem like the Void Elf equivalent of golden eyes.

[Varodoc]

Looks like Theron is more concerned with getting laid than ruling Quel'thalas.

I believe a change of regime is in order.

#HailQueenAlleria
#MakeQuel'thalasGreatAgain

[Doffen]

My Void Elf Mage is so going to have purple eyes, Belf skin and purple hair.

My Blood Elf Mage is so going to have blue eyes, Belf skin and the new ponytail in blonde.

This is the closest I get to them I think, but used the Blood Elf options on the "Velf" too.


Didn't find purple hair on the Blood Elf, but it's the closest I could find to purple. And I will also use a bit different hair style on my Void Elf.

[DeicideUH]

Looks like Theron is more concerned with getting laid than ruling Quel'thalas.

I believe a change of regime is in order.

#HailQueenAlleria
#MakeQuel'thalasGreatAgain

Eclipse elves confirmed.

[Lahis]

They basically just seem like the Void Elf equivalent of golden eyes.

Makes sense.

Blood Elves are powered by Arcane and Light. Light gives golden eyes.
Void Elves are powered by Arcane and Void. Void gives purple features.

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Looks like Theron is more concerned with getting laid than ruling Quel'thalas.

I believe a change of regime is in order.

#HailQueenAlleria
#MakeQuel'thalasGreatAgain

Dude takes two days off first time in years and already some asshole is trying to question his work ethic.

[Varodoc]

Makes sense.

Blood Elves are powered by Arcane and Light. Light gives golden eyes.
Void Elves are powered by Arcane and Void. Void gives purple features.

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Dude takes two days off first time in years and already some asshole is trying to question his work ethic.

You are right, the poor guy needs a vacation. Brainwashing any dissident must take a lot of effort.

[ddi2]

to the question about high elves........

Thats like me asking for a apple and you saying...nope we only have a fruit that grows from a tree, fell on newtons head and the nickname for new york share's a bit of the name...aka the big...apple....

Except for the fact that in that interview Ion spoke about High Elves as a different group... Even told that there are no plans to add them to the game. Which would be especially weird if he meant that High Elves are in the Horde. I mean, I am pretty sure he is aware that Blood Elves are a playable Horde race, don't you think?

And if I say purple-skinned, dark-haired, glowing-eyed elves, it doesn't mean I am talking about Night Elves. I might be talking about Nightborne. Races can share many traits, especially if they are very closely related.

[Broflake]

that's exactly what I meant in "blue eyes in the Purge of Dalaran"

Also brightsun and firebough aren't Horde, they're neutral pirates/privateers; if they were Horde they would be openly hostile to the Alliance PC - just as how the Quel'lithians are friendly to the Alliance but aren't Alliance

You're right about steelweaver however, but that makes him an extreme minority that Ion only granted access in Shadowlands

No they aren't, they both give horde only quests, and they HATE the alliance. I don't believe you've done the quest. Nor did I state they were horde, just that they were not alliance.

The sunreaver assassins/captains are also present in the fights prior to MoP' throne of thunder.
You also have lanesh and several other NPC's who are blue eyed high elves.

The fact of the matter is that, it was never a high elf exclusve.
Let alone it cant be exclusive if its on an NPC that is unplayable for the alliance.

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Except for the fact that in that interview Ion spoke about High Elves as a different group... Even told that there are no plans to add them to the game. Which would be especially weird if he meant that High Elves are in the Horde. I mean, I am pretty sure he is aware that Blood Elves are a playable Horde race, don't you think?

And if I say purple-skinned, dark-haired, glowing-eyed elves, it doesn't mean I am talking about Night Elves. I might be talking about Nightborne. Races can share many traits, especially if they are very closely related.

Well you need to understand.

There is a difference between referring to the high elf political group, which you and Ion refer, and the High elf RACIAL group.
The racial group is one that both the high elf and blood elf group both belong. Thalassians.
Hence, when someone says blood elves are high elves, they aren't wrong. They are by all means correct, and this is supported by the devs and story.

on the other hand, the high elves now, are political and not horde affiliated currently. That is the one that you want.
It is why I don't understand why many helfers go "BLOOD ELVES ARENT HIGH ELVES" when it is clear what people are referring to when they say it.
They speak of racial group, not political.

[Maljinwo]

Looks like Theron is more concerned with getting laid than ruling Quel'thalas.

I believe a change of regime is in order.

#HailQueenAlleria
#MakeQuel'thalasGreatAgain

Alleria? The one who abandoned her city because she was more concerned with getting laid with a human?

[Garfurion]

Yes...yes they do. It is stated the high elves always had the knowledge of drawing magic from objects, but that they never knew how to do it to a living being which is what Illidan taught them.

Yes...yes it does. Your racial abilities are essentially your innate birth abilities. Both blood elves and high elves are the samepeople with a difference in only name and political views.

If Mana Tap is an innate birth ability why did they have to learn it from Illidan as you stated above.

If Mana Tap is an innate birth ability, and Illidan taught it to the Blood Elves, does that mean Illidan is/was a Blood Elf ?

If Mana Tap was an innate birth ability how come Blood Elves can no longer use it ? Are they now a different race then they were in TBC ?

That is because void elves were transformed by the void and they no longer can use such an ability. Arcne torrent is its own type of magic.

If that is true then please name/link a lore source for that. Otherwise it's just your personal beliefs and not official canon lore.

There is no information in the encclopedia stating they never used mana tap. They never used mana tap on living things which was the point of contention.

As far as I recall Mana Tap didn't work on stones or plants. Could you please name/link a source stating Mana Tap worked to suck mana from non-living objects.

NPC's dont use racials dude. That is a false argument

Pathaleon the Calculator is an NPC and uses both Mana Tap and Arcane Torrent.

THey've replaced the mass majority of their body Unless you're saying it makes sense for gnomes to have the omnipurpose tool derived from mechanical arms?

As you write Mechagnomes have replaced a major part of their body with mechanical constructs...yet it is the "normal" gnomes who have an engineering specialization racial trait. It seems strange that Mechagnomes lost their engineering skills after replacing parts of their body with mechanically engineered parts. Do you have a lore source explaining how the Mechagnomes lost their engineering skills ?

They're literally called racials for a reason.

Racial abilities are used by Blizzard to make the different races more unique. It doesn't mean that acquiring a certain ability automatically changes your race.

If being able to drain mana from living beings makes you a Blood Elf then Illidan Stormrage is/was a Blood Elf.

Certainly there are cultural aspects, but those for the blood elves represent innate abilities used to take advantage of what they can already do.
Let alone it has been statedhigh elves can mana tap, the only difference is they wont do it on aliving thing, not that they will not use it on magical bjects (which they have).

Being able to consume mana from objects is not the same as Mana Tap. Mana Tap was used specifically on living beings and official lore states High Elves didn't drain mana from living beings.

Blood Elves are High Elves (the species) but they are not the only flavor of High Elves. There are other flavors of High Elves like the ones in Quel'Danil Lodge, the Silver Covenant, the Alliance Expedition and High Elves aligned with neither the Horde or Alliance. High Elven racials should match the theme of the entire High Elven species, not just the Blood Elves.

Btw, according to Ion Hazzikostas Void Elves are also a flavor of High Elves.

[shoc]

There's only one racial group, High Elf. Blood Elf is a political label. Void Elf isn't a political label, its defined by the power they harbor, that causes them to be literal threat to the integrity of the Sunwell, and therefore an existential threat to Silvermoon.

This is such pedantic BS that I'm embarrassed to have typed it