Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Thalassian Bob]

Yeah, who knows. But one thing is sure: They would still not call themselves High elves if that was the case, since bearing the name Blood elf is a badge of honor and refusing it is kinda disrespectful, maybe this also point out at almost anyone called High elf to not want to return given the fact, but well.

It has been stated that the blue eyes were given as a last minute decision of some sorts, so very shortly from the announcement, these were labeled as nonsensical, so I'm curious to see what's the rationale for it, if there's any.

Maybe Blood elves who were outside Quel'thalas, maybe it's the fel fading off, maybe they just clarify if it's their natural color or not instead of assuming that these are like that because of the arcane (I theorize this because I haven't found a source that simply states this, so it's easy to assume that people just assumed these were blue because of the arcane, instead of just being simply a natural color, like almost any other race).

You're right that any Quel'dorei returning home post-Sunwell reclamation would very likely adopt the "blood elf" nomenclature out of respect for the fallen like the rest of the more conventional Sin'dorei we think of (those who were present for the reclamation and were exposed to the fel crystals in some capacity).

I'm actually hoping they don't give us any explanation and leave it up to us players to come up with our own stories for why our characters look the way they do (with people hopefully trying to use established lore to back up their explanations).

I had been saying since their introduction that void elves could be of Quel'dorei origin and now, with the revelation of their new customisation options, people in this thread are accepting that conjecture. Especially after Taliesin's video using the same evidence which I used - the high elf wayfarers (and I also cite the high elf sorceresses walking around Stormwind with void elves).

I think on the blood elven side, the different shades of eye colours tell enough of a story without Blizzard having to spell anything out. The standard green eyes that we have already are probably for the average citizen who spent considerable time in Silvermoon during the reclamation. Then, some of the other shades of green that are being added actually existed on the old model with certain faces - the angry face had the very fel green eyes which probably belong to warlocks (who still use fel energy today), one of kinder faces had the teal eyes that probably would belong to the likes of Halduron or Lor'themar - people who were exposed to fel but probably didn't need it very much - or it might belong to people who did actively use it but stopped after they were more healthy and their eyes are becoming blue again. And, finally, blue could belong to Quel'dorei who became blood elves later, farstriders who were stationed in places like the Ghostlands or the Farstrder Retreat or mages who regularly wield arcane energy.

The less Blizzard tell us explicitly, the more we can imagine for ourselves.

Umbrithas Voidreaver looking good right there

Thanks! Voidreaver is a kickass surname! I did take inspiration from Aethas actually! Thinking I could maybe make his Silver Covenant/void elf foil... Glad that comes across! His name is Ealfric actually, trying to go with the -ic ending names of high elves like Auric and Umbric. I find it interesting that that seems to be a naming convention with high elves but not blood elves, particularly because -ic suffixed names are typical of the Anglo-Saxons. A group one wouldn't usually associate with inspiration for elves!

[Soon-TM]

Always wanted Broken since Warcraft 3.

For some reason, I remembered the pre-BC hype, when everyone in the forums back then thought that belfs were going to go to the Ally, while Horde would be getting Ogres or Broken. Talk about plot twists lol... At all rates, I'm glad that allies are finally getting their own copy of belfs, maybe that will appease their entitlement for a while

[FlubberPuddy]

What are you referring to here?

It's a reference to when Obelisk Kai and others would say the observable numbers of High Elf requesters pales to those who requested Classic WoW servers and thus equating the consistent asking of Classic WoW servers to the consistent asking of High Elves was comparing apples to oranges.

That is, because the observable numbers of High Elf requesters never 'appeared' to go above 1k, there's a minority only asking for High Elves. Contrasted with the amount of players that asked for Classic, where there were over 300,000 signatures pledged for it.

My comment there is to show that Obelisk Kai and others were wrong to state that. It never required say 100,000 people to ask for High Elves, because the request in itself is a much simpler task than rebooting a 15 year old state of the game.

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This. The simple fact that they are now "playable" increases the chance of there being storylines featuring them in the future.

Blizzard purposely hid the high elves in BfA because they wanted to sell their new toy, void elves. If high elves weren't "threatening" to void elves, then they'd probably would had appeared more. They are no longer such a "threat". Blizzard has no reason to downplay their roles anymore.

I agree. Now they're MORE likely to show many High Elves among the Alliance and have them be more involved since they're now supported playable options.

I forgot about that aspect, that's going to be really nice to see so many of them around. It will also kill the 'High Elves population is too low' once and for all (to any it hasn't already).

High Elf fans just keep on winning and the future looks more hopeful!

[Trumpcat]

What I think is that the next step should be to lift class/race restrictions, except for extreme cases like midget Demon Hunters.

[rhorle]

Broken Draenei need to happen and then it would be complete. I'd wanted light forged to be a quest customization with the allied race the broken. Even more so given how Blizzard turned Alt Draenor into a cult take over.

[shoc]

What I think is that the next step should be to lift class/race restrictions, except for extreme cases like midget Demon Hunters.

Would be a cool way to add Fel Orcs, Feltotem Tauren, Man'ari Eredar in a way that makes sense.

[Broflake]

It's a reference to when Obelisk Kai and others would say the observable numbers of High Elf requesters pales to those who requested Classic WoW servers and thus equating the consistent asking of Classic WoW servers to the consistent asking of High Elves was comparing apples to oranges.

That is, because the observable numbers of High Elf requesters never 'appeared' to go above 1k, there's a minority only asking for High Elves. Contrasted with the amount of players that asked for Classic, where there were over 300,000 signatures pledged for it.

My comment there is to show that Obelisk Kai and others were wrong to state that. It never required say 100,000 people to ask for High Elves, because the request in itself is a much simpler task than rebooting a 15 year old state of the game.!

If for 15 years they don't do something, and then choose for other reasons to do it now, that doesn't render the past 15 years wrong.
It just means there were new factors that werent there before.
Classic didn't get meaningful consideration until the pirate servers popped up.
Same for Classic.

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Would be a cool way to add Fel Orcs, Feltotem Tauren, Man'ari Eredar in a way that makes sense.

Would it? I mean...all thoe are enemies that we killed off didnt we?

[Traveler Voltin]

What I think is that the next step should be to lift class/race restrictions, except for extreme cases like midget Demon Hunters.

how about no.
typical keep demanding after you got what you want.

[Yarathir]

I think the Alliance just needs Broken Draenei aswell to be made playable to feel "complete" before moving onto more exotic options, possibly Furbolgs and Frost Dwarves aswell.
On the other hand the Horde really needs to get Forest Trolls, Dragonmaw Orcs, Taunka, Ogres and Mok'Nathal at some point, their omission after all these years is a bit sad.

Mok'nathal and Broken would be a good fit together.

Forest Trolls is a difficult one. If Wildhammer were an allied race, I'd put those two together.

I'd put Ogres with Arakkoa. Though I'm sure people would disagree with me there, because that would make Ogres the Gorian type by default (you can RP them however you want, ofc), and a lot seem to dislike those.

[DeicideUH]

Mok'nathal and Broken would be a good fit together.

Forest Trolls is a difficult one. If Wildhammer were an allied race, I'd put those two together.

I'd put Ogres with Arakkoa. Though I'm sure people would disagree with me there, because that would make Ogres the Gorian type by default (you can RP them however you want, ofc), and a lot seem to dislike those.

The goalposts have moved, I want ogres and broken next.

[FossilFree]

Mok'nathal and Broken would be a good fit together.

Forest Trolls is a difficult one. If Wildhammer were an allied race, I'd put those two together.

I'd put Ogres with Arakkoa. Though I'm sure people would disagree with me there, because that would make Ogres the Gorian type by default (you can RP them however you want, ofc), and a lot seem to dislike those.

Gorian Ogres (or High Ogres as they are also known) would probably go to Alliance.

The Gorian Empire (also referred to as the Gorian ogre imperium or simply the Ogre Empire) was the nation-state of the ogres encompassing various holdings on Draenor. On alternate Draenor, it was notable for being one of the few empires on the world, but lost its former dominance after the rise of the Iron Horde, which forced Imperator Mar'gok to align himself with the orcs to ensure his empire's continued survival. He would have, however, turned himself against the orcs if the situation was favorable.

They are referred to as high ogres.

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Gorian_Empire

[FlubberPuddy]

If for 15 years they don't do something, and then choose for other reasons to do it now, that doesn't render the past 15 years wrong.
It just means there were new factors that werent there before.
Classic didn't get meaningful consideration until the pirate servers popped up.
Same for Classic.

Uh yes it does lol. For what other reasons would they turn around? Ion himself said they 're-examined' it right after the interview he confirmed it wasn't happening.

[Broflake]

Uh yes it does lol. For what other reasons would they turn around? Ion himself said they 're-examined' it right after the interview he confirmed it wasn't happening.

Which says...nothing about what other reasons came up Geisl. I just gave you a good example of when classic was a negative until pirate servers became a factor.

[FlubberPuddy]

Which says...nothing about what other reasons came up Geisl. I just gave you a good example of when classic was a negative until pirate servers became a factor.

private servers were a thing since wrath of the lich king. Don't see how that proves anything.

[delus]

It's a reference to when Obelisk Kai and others would say the observable numbers of High Elf requesters pales to those who requested Classic WoW servers and thus equating the consistent asking of Classic WoW servers to the consistent asking of High Elves was comparing apples to oranges.

That is, because the observable numbers of High Elf requesters never 'appeared' to go above 1k, there's a minority only asking for High Elves. Contrasted with the amount of players that asked for Classic, where there were over 300,000 signatures pledged for it.

My comment there is to show that Obelisk Kai and others were wrong to state that. It never required say 100,000 people to ask for High Elves, because the request in itself is a much simpler task than rebooting a 15 year old state of the game.

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I agree. Now they're MORE likely to show many High Elves among the Alliance and have them be more involved since they're now supported playable options.

I forgot about that aspect, that's going to be really nice to see so many of them around. It will also kill the 'High Elves population is too low' once and for all (to any it hasn't already).

High Elf fans just keep on winning and the future looks more hopeful!

I am wondering what this and the emergeance of the Ren'dorei mean for the blood elves. Will silvermoon lose half, a third or a quarter of it's population to alliance defection? At this rate, why even bother to restore the ruined half of the city?

[Broflake]

private servers were a thing since wrath of the lich king. Don't see how that proves anything.

They hit their peak prior to Classic announcement.

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I am wondering what this and the emergeance of the Ren'dorei mean for the blood elves. Will silvermoon lose half, a third or a quarter of it's population to alliance defection? At this rate, why even bother to restore the ruined half of the city?

Why would silvermoon lose its population to alliance defection? The story could simply refer to them mastering their void energy and looking less voidy.

[delus]

The goalposts have moved, I want ogres and broken next.

Broken could be customization for Draenei. As for ogres... I don't see any way to fit them in as customization options for a playable race.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

If I come back for Shadowlands and I main my warrior (who was my main in MoP, and in WoD), I'll probably race change from Lightforged Draenei to Void Elf and use the High Elf skin tones. I just hope I won't have glowing tentacle hair. Also hope I can have non-glowing blue eyes.

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I also wish I can I have blonde hair like the blood elves but if not at least I have pure blue hair, and the purple hair so that's a win, also I have facial hair so that's also a win

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Might be my new look in Shadowlands (loaded this in the BFA dressing room, as the guantlets are bugged in the beta version)



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Love how this calls back to some of the first few hundred pages of this thread in that it was a request for the Blood Elf pallete and how it was not what they were asking for, but now all of a sudden it's a huge win. Hypocrites the lot of you. xD

But congrats on the "win" I guess, hope y'all enjoy.

Blizzard has refused to give their paying customers what they want for years. Ofcourse the first time they FINALLY do it (because, guess what, ignoring what your customer's desires doesn't retain them!) the remaining people who were holding out for years are going to rejoice.

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Do you think the void elves will soon become the most played allied race?
If it can repopulate the alliance a bit, it's cool.

Depends on customization options. If players can get the same customization options that Blood Elves have but on the Alliance side, they will play them. Ofcourse, there is also the glaring issue of being unable to play as an elf paladin on alliance, but I think there is a decent chance that Blizzard will relent. If they're smart. Blizzard since 2014 hasn't been known for its wise decision making.

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So everyone's pretty happy with these options, right? It seems like it solves almost everything, except that one hypothetical person who wants to play an Alliance High Elf Paladin.

Given how popular paladins are, I'm sure it's more than just one person.

Personally I'm not a fan of paladin gameplay but I'm a proponent of devs giving their paying customers what they want. And besides, playing as an Alliance High Elf Paladin is a no brainer.

[matrix123mko]

Love far left the most, especially with that void decayed left side/jaw!

Thanks. This is my favourite from these too.

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Cool. That could easily be a Kael skin in HoTS.

This is what I made it for.

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Gonna just be honest here, if void elves got the Kael'thas orb look and blood elves didn't, I'd be super jealous.

On the heritage armor topic, though, doesn't the Mag'har set change based on your skin tone or something? Am I just imagining that?

I would be too.

[Trumpcat]

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Might be my new look in Shadowlands (loaded this in the BFA dressing room, as the guantlets are bugged in the beta version)


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Love the look, main material. Velf needs new hair customization options, even if they don't just copy the belf ones and I'm fairly certain at this point they will have more. The Blizzard post mentioned it's only a preview to some of the options coming.

They initially said allied races aren't getting new customization, but I'm glad they walked back on this.

how about no.
typical keep demanding after you got what you want.

Ah, a presumptuous one.
1. I haven't been demanding high elves here or anywhere.
2. I have several posts regarding class restriction removal in more detail so if anything that is what "I have been demanding".
3. You have no arguments so just keep quiet in your corner.