Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Terongor]

Eventhough void elf gained high elf eyes and belf skin colours they would still be void elves as they have their void themed racial and similiar case would be alleria who is descriped in shadows rising a void elf, void elf starting quest alleria calls player and herself a void elf and 7.3 datamined string calls her a void elf meaning closest thing to a high elf is belf with blue eyes.

[DeicideUH]

I'm against pulling anything more from the blood elves. From now on, blood and void elves should be get different things. You can have colors that feel different yet similar, but wildly different styles. ALso, I think void elf options should aim to fit with the original skins.

Like I posted elsewhere (and more than once):
- Hair colors like: Black, white, silver-blue, dark red, bege, dual color (black/red, blue/blonde)
- New hair styles, with option to toggle between tendrils or braids, so you can select traditional or voidy look.
- Celtic-like markings with cool colors like blue, violet, magenta, or voidy in nature.

Art example of hair with braids in place of tendrils, as well as blue markings:

[Ardenaso]

Might be my new look in Shadowlands (loaded this in the BFA dressing room, as the guantlets are bugged in the beta version)

same energy

[FlubberPuddy]

There is already people in the official forums spamming that void elves should get, literally, all blood elf customization options, should also get their racials or new ones or disable theirs, that they should also get the paladin class and of course their names be changed from void elf to high elf in everything

you give an inch they want a mile, is how they say?

It's really funny seeing some of the salty posts on the official forums. People are even using the notion that since High Elves were granted then 'well let's just ask for anything we want !' and are making some ridiculous requests like dual wielding sharks like that Ogre boss in Freehold!



I fucken love it LOL

[matrix123mko]

same energy

Alas, this is not a model. Nice try.

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I'm against pulling anything more from the blood elves. From now on, blood and void elves should be get different things. You can have colors that feel different yet similar, but wildly different styles. ALso, I think void elf options should aim to fit with the original skins.

Like I posted elsewhere (and more than once):
- Hair colors like: Black, white, silver-blue, dark red, bege, dual color (black/red, blue/blonde)
- New hair styles, with option to toggle between tendrils or braids, so you can select traditional or voidy look.
- Celtic-like markings with cool colors like blue, violet, magenta, or voidy in nature.

Art example of hair with braids in place of tendrils, as well as blue markings:

I hope both factions will get these at some point.

[Ardenaso]

Alas, this is not a model. Nice try..

of course; I just shoved Thalorien's head to Dagren. Though it wouldn't be hard to do this, I think use Thalorien's body and undermail as the base insert Dagren's armor and weapons and then Thalorien's head and probably his Thalassian shoulderpads

[Varodoc]

Yeah, pretty greedy in my opinion. And I mean, If you wanna play a literal Blood Elf (green eyes, blonde hair and same hairstyles), why don't you play one in the Horde? It would be easier for Blizzard to remove the factions or to give the chance to play every race in the opposite faction, would make more sense.

And about Void Elves paladins... makes no sense at all... but well, damn lore already, right? If they ever give Void Elves the option to be paladin I except everyone gets paladins, and druids and so on. Orc and Dwarf druids would make a lot more of sense, for example.

That's what Blizzard said when they approved Lightforged DK and Wildhammer Warlocks, "damn the lore". So yeah, bring on void elf paladins.

[Aucald]

That's what Blizzard said when they approved Lightforged DK and Wildhammer Warlocks, "damn the lore". So yeah, bring on void elf paladins.

I read an interesting lore rationale for Void Elf Paladins (or Void Knights if you prefer). Basically put, the organization of VE Paladins are those Void Elves who feel their transformation by Durzaan has made them monsters, and sought an infusion of the Light as a "cure" for their condition. The infusion was surprisingly successful, but it did not fix the condition of being tainted by the Void - and now the Light and Void exist at once within them, causing violent feedback loops that are exceedingly painful when these Paladins channel their light abilities. A beneficial side-effect, however, is that the surges of pain also blanket out the cacophony of the Void and make the voice of the Light all the more clarion. The Void Knights embrace their self-sacrifice to show that the ren'dorei are not lost to the Void, and that even when shrouded by the Void's touch can still reach out to embrace the Light.

[Alixie]

I read an interesting lore rationale for Void Elf Paladins (or Void Knights if you prefer). Basically put, the organization of VE Paladins are those Void Elves who feel their transformation by Durzaan has made them monsters, and sought an infusion of the Light as a "cure" for their condition. The infusion was surprisingly successful, but it did not fix the condition of being tainted by the Void - and now the Light and Void exist at once within them, causing violent feedback loops that are exceedingly painful when these Paladins channel their light abilities. A beneficial side-effect, however, is that the surges of pain also blanket out the cacophony of the Void and make the voice of the Light all the more clarion. The Void Knights embrace their self-sacrifice to show that the ren'dorei are not lost to the Void, and that even when shrouded by the Void's touch can still reach out to embrace the Light.

I had a similar idea on how Void paladins would work. They would be the plate wearing version of Discipline priests - particularly Forsaken priests who balance light and shadow magic in the Cult of Forgotten Shadows. They'd be a new paladin organization (or not even paladins, just using the class that best represents them, like Sun Druids), of former High/Belf paladins who want a new denomination so to speak. And it fits the velf/belf theme of researching potentially dangerous or taboo magic for the greater good.

[Broflake]

How about we don't give void elves everything that blood elves have including class combos that require the sunwell?
Unless blood elves are getting light tentacles for hair and other unnatural colors.

This is really a case of giving a mouse a cookie.
Why would anyone play a blood elf if void elves offer much more?

[Alixie]

How about we don't give void elves everything that blood elves have including class combos that require the sunwell?
Unless blood elves are getting light tentacles for hair and other unnatural colors.

This is really a case of giving a mouse a cookie.
Why would anyone play a blood elf if void elves offer much more?

You get to be Horde, and change your ear size.

[matrix123mko]

of course; I just shoved Thalorien's head to Dagren. Though it wouldn't be hard to do this, I think use Thalorien's body and undermail as the base insert Dagren's armor and weapons and then Thalorien's head and probably his Thalassian shoulderpads

I think these shoulderpads are Thalassian enough.

[DeicideUH]

You get to be Horde, and change your ear size.

I think the ear size thing will end up ported to void elves as well. No reason to not do it, it's the same model.

Why would anyone play a blood elf if void elves offer much more?

Play on the Horde, with better and more players.
No need to unlock the race.
Has way more hairstyles and better hair colors.
Has more and new jewelry for females.
Has more eye color choices.
Can be paladins and demon hunters.

[Varodoc]

I read an interesting lore rationale for Void Elf Paladins (or Void Knights if you prefer). Basically put, the organization of VE Paladins are those Void Elves who feel their transformation by Durzaan has made them monsters, and sought an infusion of the Light as a "cure" for their condition. The infusion was surprisingly successful, but it did not fix the condition of being tainted by the Void - and now the Light and Void exist at once within them, causing violent feedback loops that are exceedingly painful when these Paladins channel their light abilities. A beneficial side-effect, however, is that the surges of pain also blanket out the cacophony of the Void and make the voice of the Light all the more clarion. The Void Knights embrace their self-sacrifice to show that the ren'dorei are not lost to the Void, and that even when shrouded by the Void's touch can still reach out to embrace the Light.

That's an intriguing backstory that could open up a lot of RP potential. I love the idea of two conflicting forces existing at once within one individual.

How about we don't give void elves everything that blood elves have including class combos that require the sunwell?
Unless blood elves are getting light tentacles for hair and other unnatural colors.

This is really a case of giving a mouse a cookie.
Why would anyone play a blood elf if void elves offer much more?

Friends on the Horde? Better racials? Server faction population? Simply preferring the BE lore?

Just because you're not really a fan of blood elves doesn't mean that the real fans would instantly buy a faction change if VE paladins became playable.

[Broflake]

You get to be Horde, and change your ear size.

So...why would I play a blood elf again?
If there is no difference, and void elves offer "more", why play a blood elf?

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Friends on the Horde?

Friends can be applied to Alliance as well. Why play a BE if there is more to gain from VE? That is just trying to get away from my point.

Better racials?

I would literally sacrifice my right pinkie for people to stop saying this. Literally 39-19 specs in the game have alliance being number 1.
horde don't have better racials.

Server faction population?

Is...this a joke? The only place Horde have an advantage in population wise is in terms of M+/raids.
Anywhere else? Alliance.
RP? Alliance.
Pet? Alliance
Casual gaming? Allince

Simply preferring the BE lore?

Which VE have access to as well?

Just because you're not really a fan of blood elves doesn't mean that the real fans would instantly buy a faction change if VE paladins became playable.

What does being a fan have anything to do with it?
Let alone the hypocrisy is such a statement says quite a bit given all these "high elf" fans are more than happy to take the aesthetics of a blood elf while not being actual high elves they claim to have wanted.

The game makes each faction unique based on what it offers.
Right now, the Horde lost the uniqueness of one race, had it given to the void elves, and gained nothing from it.
now people ALSO want the paladin class that blood elves released with, even though it makes no sense to lore.

So again, if void elves have EVERYTHING blood elves do, and more, why play a blood elf?
Clearly lore doesn't matter if you want VE to have paladins of all things.

[Sharby]

So...why would I play a blood elf again?
If there is no difference, and void elves offer "more", why play a blood elf?

Stop discounting the fact that Belves are on an entirely different faction as if it doesn't matter.

[Varodoc]

If VE paladins are enough to make you abandon blood elves entirely and reroll Alliance, you were never a real BE fan to begin with, and thus shouldn't be bothered that much. It's that simple.

[Broflake]

Stop discounting the fact that Belves are on an entirely different faction as if it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter.
Just like how it doesn't matter for Pandaren.

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If VE paladins are enough to make you abandon blood elves entirely and reroll Alliance, you were never a real BE fan to begin with, and thus shouldn't be bothered that much. It's that simple.

This is just a weak attempt to dismiss the point. Which is the complete watering down and loss of uniqueness of a horde race.
What is the point of the Horde having that core race, is the Alliance gets the same options and better than the original?


Playing the notion of "well you're not a real fan" doesn't matter.
If you're going to play the whole "real fan" nonsense, then why are you accepting these aesthetics for void elves?

[Varodoc]

It doesn't matter.
Just like how it doesn't matter for Pandaren.

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This is just a weak attempt to dismiss the point. Which is the complete watering down and loss of uniqueness of a horde race.
What is the point of the Horde having that core race, is the Alliance gets the same options and better than the original?


Playing the notion of "well you're not a real fan" doesn't matter.
If you're going to play the whole "real fan" nonsense, then why are you accepting these aesthetics for void elves?

Wrong. Void elves still wouldn't have Demon Hunter. So your entire argument is moot.

Also, why should I reject these aesthetics? Alleria is a void elf who can retain her high elf form. Pink skin tones were always part of Void elf identity and aesthetic.

[Broflake]

Wrong. Void elves still wouldn't have Demon Hunter. So your entire argument is moot.

Night elves have demon hunters, it is not an exclusive class to elves.
Only blood elves hold access to paladins.

Also, why should I reject these aesthetics? Alleria is a void elf who can retain her high elf form. Pink skin tones were always part of Void elf identity and aesthetic.

Except Alleria is a void elf, not a high elf, and the devs stated the original void elf look was their identity and aesthetic not Alleria's. So that is something you simply went with because it suits your desires.
I think you're missing my point.
That "true fan" nonsense is nothing but silliness to dismiss another person's legitimate concerns.
Giving the void elves these skins, and giving them an iconic blood elf class, takes away from the uniquness of blood elves.
Where one gains, the other loses.

So despite the whole "it doesn't affect you" nonsense helfers and yourself speak, it really doesn't work that way in practice.