Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varodoc]

Night elves have demon hunters, it is not an exclusive class to elves.
Only blood elves hold access to paladins.


Except Alleria is a void elf, not a high elf, and the devs stated the original void elf look was their identity and aesthetic not Alleria's. So that is something you simply went with because it suits your desires.
I think you're missing my point.
That "true fan" nonsense is nothing but silliness to dismiss another person's legitimate concerns.
Giving the void elves these skins, and giving them an iconic blood elf class, takes away from the uniquness of blood elves.
Where one gains, the other loses.

Paladin shouldn't be exclusive to elves in the first place. They were neither the first nor the most iconic paladins in the franchise.

Alleria is a void elf who can switch back to her high elf form. As a result, switching back to your high elf form was always part of void elf identity and aesthetic. I was right, Blizzard agreed with me, and you people were wrong. This debate ended 3 or so days ago. Can we move on?

VE paladins are not Blood Knights and thus wouldn't take anything away from BEs.

[Ardenaso]

That's an intriguing backstory that could open up a lot of RP potential. I love the idea of two conflicting forces existing at once within one individual.

I read an interesting lore rationale for Void Elf Paladins (or Void Knights if you prefer). Basically put, the organization of VE Paladins are those Void Elves who feel their transformation by Durzaan has made them monsters, and sought an infusion of the Light as a "cure" for their condition. The infusion was surprisingly successful, but it did not fix the condition of being tainted by the Void - and now the Light and Void exist at once within them, causing violent feedback loops that are exceedingly painful when these Paladins channel their light abilities. A beneficial side-effect, however, is that the surges of pain also blanket out the cacophony of the Void and make the voice of the Light all the more clarion. The Void Knights embrace their self-sacrifice to show that the ren'dorei are not lost to the Void, and that even when shrouded by the Void's touch can still reach out to embrace the Light.

Cool. Blood Knights 2.0, perhaps they will now be the ones to enslave a (voidified) naaru and bend its powers to their will or revel in pain as they try to redeem/balance themselves with the light

[AwkwardSquirtle]

Is...this a joke? The only place Horde have an advantage in population wise is in terms of M+/raids.
Anywhere else? Alliance.
RP? Alliance.
Pet? Alliance
Casual gaming? Allince

RP is the only one of those where population matters. Casual gaming and pet battles are solo content.

[matrix123mko]

RP is the only one of those where population matters. Casual gaming and pet battles are solo content.

And for RP you need more people than for M+.

[Broflake]

Paladin shouldn't be exclusive to elves in the first place. They were neither the first nor the most iconic paladins in the franchise.

This is you completely misconstruing my statement. Considering Vanilla WoW started with Humans/dwarves being paladins....obviously they're not the first or most iconic.
For the Horde though? Blood elf paladins are indeed iconic, and lore wise, neither void elves or night elves should be paladins. It maintains distinction for blood elves,and follows thelore many claim is important.

Alleria is a void elf who can switch back to her high elf form. As a result, switching back to your high elf form was always part of void elf identity and aesthetic. I was right, Blizzard agreed with me, and you people were wrong. This debate ended 3 or so days ago. Can we move on?

I mean...they call Alleria a void elf in both farms, and she bleeds purple in both forms.
If you think skin color dictates whether they are are a high elf or not...why request it in the first place with blood elves being there?
Let alone, that isn't the point of my argument. This is a tangent you brought up by demonstrating your hypocrisy about true fans and the like.

VE paladins are not Blood Knights and thus wouldn't take anything away from BEs.

Right, and thats why when TBC was released, shamans should not have gone to the Alliance because taking the paladin class from the alliance wouldn't affect them because blood elf paladins are blood knights!

Press X to doubt!

Seriously, none of the logic you are pushing forward is consistent in this regard.

A void elf paladin is a paladin, just as a blood knight is a paladin.
Beings infused with light who follow the light.

That is what a paladin is.
Void elves shouldnt be paladins because they are Void elves.
If you want that, hey, that gives you a reason to play a blood elf.

Otherwise, might as well delete blood elves from the game since VE are getting everything and then some.

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Cool. Blood Knights 2.0, perhaps they will now be the ones to enslave a (voidified) naaru and bend its powers to their will

Paladins are infused with the light.
Void elves are already infused with the void, and they wouldn't be paladins anyway. Since...paladins are light users.

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RP is the only one of those where population matters. Casual gaming and pet battles are solo content.

Its a population argument dude, and as much as people want to cry and pretend the Alliance is having issues in terms of numbers, it isnt.

[Ardenaso]

Paladins are infused with the light.
Void elves are already infused with the void, and they wouldn't be paladins anyway. Since...paladins are light users.

I'm just riding along with the jest that "Void Elves are what Blood Elves should have been"

[Broflake]

I'm just riding along with the jest that "Void Elves are what Blood Elves should have been"

You broke the quoting system Arden!

[Ardenaso]

You broke the quoting system Arden!

bruh moment right there, how

[Ogren]

I think the ear size thing will end up ported to void elves as well. No reason to not do it, it's the same model.



Play on the Horde, with better and more players.
No need to unlock the race.
Has way more hairstyles and better hair colors.
Has more and new jewelry for females.
Has more eye color choices.
Can be paladins and demon hunters.

This really, why anyone thinks this news won't mean Void Elves are now basically Diet Blood Elves is beyond me.

Also it should be mentioned that Void Elves are still stuck with bad lore and downsides like whispers always in their head and not being able to make physical contact with Light wielders, which make up a very large roster of the Alliance and limits Void Elf RP. Blood Elves don't have such limitations and they also still have some of the best accessory customization we've seen so far.

[Varodoc]

Cool. Blood Knights 2.0, perhaps they will now be the ones to enslave a (voidified) naaru and bend its powers to their will or revel in pain as they try to redeem/balance themselves with the light

They are not like Blood Knights at all.

[Broflake]

bruh moment right there, how

I don't know...did you copypasta his quote tag?

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They are not like Blood Knights at all.

From a gameplay perspective they would be.

[matrix123mko]

This really, why anyone thinks this news won't mean Void Elves are now basically Diet Blood Elves is beyond me.

Also it should be mentioned that Void Elves are still stuck with bad lore and downsides like whispers always in their head and not being able to make physical contact with Light wielders, which make up a very large roster of the Alliance and limits Void Elf RP. Blood Elves don't have such limitations and they also still have some of the best accessory customization we've seen so far.

They can't touch Lightforged. Paladins are still touchable.

[Broflake]

They can't touch Lightforged. Paladins are still touchable.

They cant be paladins tohugh since paladins are filled with the light. Something about lightforged makes them different though

[matrix123mko]

They cant be paladins tohugh since paladins are filled with the light. Something about lightforged makes them different though

Paladins aren't filled with light. This is a popular headcanon.

[Broflake]

Paladins aren't filled with light. This is a popular headcanon.

Its because i Arthas, when he becomes a paladin is able to lift his hammer as if it is nothing.
Furthermore, it has been shown void and light cancel each other out entirely.
This is supported by the nature of the blood knights as well who infused themselves with the Naaru' power to be blood knights.

[Ardenaso]

Paladins aren't filled with light. This is a popular headcanon.

given that Paladins are immune to blight and disease I'd say yes

[Varodoc]

I don't know...did you copypasta his quote tag?

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From a gameplay perspective they would be.

No, they would not be at all. Blood Knight is not a class.

[Broflake]

No, they would not be at all. Blood Knight is not a class.

Blood knights are paladins Varadoc. Seriously, I fail to understand your recalcitrance.

[Swnem]

How about we don't give void elves everything that blood elves have including class combos that require the sunwell?
Unless blood elves are getting light tentacles for hair and other unnatural colors.

This is really a case of giving a mouse a cookie.
Why would anyone play a blood elf if void elves offer much more?

I mean... lightforged shadow priests are a thing, so i don't see why not. Heck, there are even undead paladins in lore.
Stop wanting to restrict choices. It's the dumbest thing in wow.
Said it time and again. Our characters are not canon. Makes no sense to limit player choices. They are our original creations with whatever story we want to imagine they have. It has zero impact in the game story or lore.
Only druids make some sense cause they require unique models and dev time. But, aside from that, all class combos should be possible.

[Syegfryed]

Wrong. Void elves still wouldn't have Demon Hunter. So your entire argument is moot.

Also, why should I reject these aesthetics? Alleria is a void elf who can retain her high elf form. Pink skin tones were always part of Void elf identity and aesthetic.

mind you, people are also asking void elves to be demon hunter, so no he isn't wrong.

people literally want everything blood elves have and more, something we warned before, and is a completely stupid and entitled attitude

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I mean... lightforged shadow priests are a thing, so i don't see why not. Heck, there are even undead paladins in lore.
Stop wanting to restrict choices. It's the dumbest thing in wow.

and void elves are already disc and holy priests, is enough

if you rly want a paladin elf, go horde, ask night elves to be one, i agree we should ease the class/race combo, but lets not get too crazy