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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    but does Kt and SW humans looks also exactly the same? no, then the situation isn't comparable.

    At least let some visual differences between the races, world will not end because you don't have all the hair shades
    Humans and KT, being of the same race, share similar or the same hairstyles/hair colors.

    Void Elves and Blood Elves, being of the same race, can be concluded to share the same or similar hairstyles/hair colors and other customizations.

    For instance some Void Elf beard options are going to Blood Elves, and we already have the skin tones down.

    People have also suggested different tints if blonde, just like the datamined autumn or sand blonde for Night Elves isn’t the exact same shades of blonde as on Nightborne.

    This level of pedantry you’re showing is really useless at this point.

    Did people of other races who get extra customizations cease asking for more? No, they kept asking for different things after one matter was settled.

    Take Worgen revamp, got a full revamp and then wanted female Worgen to have glowing eyes just like males.

    Did Blood Elf players stop asking for more customization once they got Golden Eyes? Nope.

    Did Night Elf players stop asking for more once they got Night Warrior eyes? Nope.

    Ion even said that character customization is never ending and they always want to add more options so people can express their characters how they want.

    Thus even Blizzard supports people continuing to ask for further character customization options.

    To sum it up:

    1) They’re the same race and shared similar/same styles are allowable

    2) People have suggested different shades that give the same outcome (there’s over 20+ kinds of blonde hair color that exist, use some not used by Blood Elves)

    3) None of the customizations coming in Shadowlands are a “final pass of options” for any race, Allied or otherwise. Ergo, people are supported in asking for further customization options.

    I suggest you stop engaging in pedantry as it’s pretty clear Blizzard doesn’t support your notion.

    Maybe if you spent more time organizing and supporting the requests you want instead of going to other requests and constantly spouting “No no no no no” like Michael Scott from the Office then you’d probably get some options you actually want.

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    To help illustrate my point:



    And since Blizzard gave Void Elves 4 shades of pretty much the same skin color originally and saw that as 'good enough to ship', I'm really sure they can afford giving different shades of 'blonde' to Void Elves as well.

    Especially since Blood Elves have only 4 hair color options that can be considered any semblance of blonde but my picture is already showing 10 diff shades of blonde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddi2 View Post
    Well, considering that he flat out said next after that sentence that they are not planning to add High Elves, you and several other people back then on forums are just wrong.
    ...nope we are not.

    High elves are more then a look. They a culture etc.

    This is just void elves looking like high elves or blood elves.

    Or are we getting a high elf racial, mount, heritage armor, city/starting zone and high elf hero's......?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchvince View Post
    The humans SW/KT are of the same race,
    they clearly aren't the same, KT is another breed of human half giants, the normal humans kultirans aren't playable
    the blood/void elves are also of the same race, the request therefore admissible ...
    they aren't the same race, void elves are being mutated by the void, and the request is nonsensical when just void elves are getting all the blood elf shit and not also the inverse

    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    Humans and KT, being of the same race, share similar or the same hairstyles/hair colors.
    they are not the same race, they are in the same faction and they have different shades, so yes, i still assume difference between races is at least expectable
    Void Elves and Blood Elves, being of the same race, can be concluded to share the same or similar hairstyles/hair colors and other customizations.
    except they also are not the same race, share a few options is understable, but share all is bullshit and not necessary, especially when void elves would get all blood elf options while blood elves can't get any void elf option
    For instance some Void Elf beard options are going to Blood Elves, and we already have the skin tones down.
    what dataminers find, as far i know, is new beards for then, not void elf beard

    People have also suggested different tints if blonde, just like the datamined autumn or sand blonde for Night Elves isn’t the exact same shades of blonde as on Nightborne.
    not necessary
    This level of pedantry you’re showing is really useless at this point.
    the pedantry here is how the alliance are wanting literally, all the options blood elves have, and more including paladins with some edgy void reskin


    Quote Originally Posted by Swnem View Post
    What makes you think that?
    think that what exactly?
    I'm just not selfish and there are other class/race combos i'd probably be interested in. It makes no sense to restrict non-lore characters. I don't see what the problem is or how it's crazy but alas.
    And on that note, how does other people having acess to class combos diminishes what you have? I really don't get that mindset.
    the problem all boils down to how it don't make any sense lore wise, diminish the thematic of the other races and how this nonsense argument is only relevant when its giving more things to the elves, like they already don't have enough shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    they are not the same race, they are in the same faction and they have different shades, so yes, i still assume difference between races is at least expectable


    except they also are not the same race, share a few options is understable, but share all is bullshit and not necessary, especially when void elves would get all blood elf options while blood elves can't get any void elf option


    what dataminers find, as far i know, is new beards for then, not void elf beard



    not necessary


    the pedantry here is how the alliance are wanting literally, all the options blood elves have, and more including paladins with some edgy void reskin
    Yup this post just shows despite the developers saying these are the same races, you simply can't accept it.

    Probably because you're more concerned with denying options from others regardless of anything else.

    That's ok though, seeing as High Elves are happening means the developers don't share your view and that's enough for me to disregard whatever you're saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post





    I think silver-blue, black, white, bege (which can pass as a tainted/pale blonde), dark red and dual colors (like black/red, blue/blonde) for hair could fit well for both high elf and void elf skins.

    Also celtic-style tattoos in void, blue, violet and magenta colors would be perfect for both.
    Oh yeah. White haired void elf with facial tattoos would be insane.
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    I'm fairly certain Blizzard is on record as saying Kul Tirans are in fact the same race as Stormwind Humans. They just went with the large models for players because they thought they were interesting and offered a diverse option that differed from the Stormwind body-type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post


    they aren't the same race, void elves are being mutated by the void, and the request is nonsensical when just void elves are getting all the blood elf shit and not also the inverse
    I'm sorry, but with high elves and blood elves in Telegrus Rift, that wasn't really the case. Now that's even less the case.

    Right now void elf is another term for "Alliance Thalassian elves".

    Blizzard gave you an iconic Alliance race 13 years ago. We can't undo that. But at least we can fix that, and Blizzard decided to do so.
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    I hope all of this backfires on you Helfers. You’re taking a few customization options and running with it faster than I could possibly imagine, and when the Blood Elf fans point out that there’s nothing unique about their race they get ridiculed. You are the most toxic group of people I have ever seen.
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    You are the most toxic group of people I have ever seen.
    IDK, I am looking at someone very toxic right now. You elf fans I swear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmech View Post
    IDK, I am looking at someone very toxic right now. You elf fans I swear.
    Because I’m pointing out that there’s nothing unique left to the race I’ve played most of my gaming life of WoW, I’m the toxic one? I guess me wishing it backfires can be seen as such but it’s obvious that they’re trying to take everything and leave us with nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaelia View Post
    Because I’m pointing out that there’s nothing unique left to the race I’ve played most of my gaming life of WoW, I’m the toxic one? I guess me wishing it backfires can be seen as such but it’s obvious that they’re trying to take everything and leave us with nothing.
    Leave us with nothing ?

    Well. You have Quel'Thalas, Silvermoon, the Sunwell... blond/brown hairs.

    Alliance elves just got a rock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaelia View Post
    leave us with nothing.
    What did you lose?
    Whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    What did you lose?
    We haven’t lost much yet but, the High Elf fans want the moon and the stars. That’s what I’m talking about. All of our skins are gone to Void Elf customizations, on top of their voidy looks, and there’s nothing new but body jewelry and eyes for the Blood Elves. Now you guys want Paladins, access to green and golden eyes, access to all hair styles and colors, and I’ve even seen people kicking around a war for Quel’thalas scenario where the Blood elves lose their home. This is what I’m talking about.
    Giving Blood Elves both dark ranger and san’layn options would appease me but I doubt that will happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaelia View Post
    We haven’t lost much yet but, the High Elf fans want the moon and the stars. That’s what I’m talking about. All of our skins are gone to Void Elf customizations, on top of their voidy looks, and there’s nothing new but body jewelry and eyes for the Blood Elves. Now you guys want Paladins, access to green and golden eyes, access to all hair styles and colors, and I’ve even seen people kicking around a war for Quel’thalas scenario where the Blood elves lose their home. This is what I’m talking about.
    Giving Blood Elves both dark ranger and san’layn options would appease me but I doubt that will happen.
    This is wrong, and just shows you're too focused on pedantry than actually appreciating what you have + are getting. They're further adding more skin tones exclusive to Blood Elves that Void Elves will not get. They even showcase one in blood elf preview.





    2nd from left for male, and 3rd from left for female. Those skins even fit your MMO-C profile pic!

    You're also getting body jewelry as you pointed out, as well as necklaces, a specific hairstyle with a crown for female BEs.

    Yikes you just sound hella upset over Blizzard handling the High Elf request in an amicable manner. And you're the one saying others are being toxic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaelia View Post
    We haven’t lost much yet but, the High Elf fans want the moon and the stars. That’s what I’m talking about. All of our skins are gone to Void Elf customizations, on top of their voidy looks, and there’s nothing new but body jewelry and eyes for the Blood Elves. Now you guys want Paladins, access to green and golden eyes, access to all hair styles and colors, and I’ve even seen people kicking around a war for Quel’thalas scenario where the Blood elves lose their home. This is what I’m talking about.
    Giving Blood Elves both dark ranger and san’layn options would appease me but I doubt that will happen.
    I think the void elves will just have a panel of BE hair colors nothing more ...
    So only the skin and hair colors are shared to be able to make a high elf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    This is wrong, and just shows you're too focused on pedantry than actually appreciating what you have + are getting. They're further adding more skin tones exclusive to Blood Elves that Void Elves will not get. They even showcase one in blood elf preview.





    2nd from left for male, and 3rd from left for female. Those skins even fit your MMO-C profile pic!

    You're also getting body jewelry as you pointed out, as well as necklaces, a specific hairstyle with a crown for female BEs.

    Yikes you just sound hella upset over Blizzard handling the High Elf request in an amicable manner. And you're the one saying others are being toxic?
    You’re right I am upset. Also, that was a brief summation of what the races are getting.

    Additionally, Blood Elves will have the option to choose from a variety of new skin colors and Void Elves will inherit the skin color options that are available to Blood Elves. Here’s a glimpse of the potential characters that you can create with some of the new options.
    I take this to mean that Blood Elves are getting new skins, and void elves are inheriting all of those.
    No one will know for sure until the actual options are available but I’m fairly certain the Void Elves will get all of them. Maybe I’m jumping the gun with my frustrations but I’ve been very against giving the opposite faction options that the other one has. I like the addition of Nightborne to the Horde but I don’t agree with it. If they’re doing this I don’t see why everyone can’t just play whatever race they want regardless of faction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaelia View Post
    You’re right I am upset. Also, that was a brief summation of what the races are getting.



    I take this to mean that Blood Elves are getting new skins, and void elves are inheriting all of those.
    No one will know for sure until the actual options are available but I’m fairly certain the Void Elves will get all of them. Maybe I’m jumping the gun with my frustrations but I’ve been very against giving the opposite faction options that the other one has. I like the addition of Nightborne to the Horde but I don’t agree with it. If they’re doing this I don’t see why everyone can’t just play whatever race they want regardless of faction.
    Mhm, you have enough sense to post that yet are still attempting to be spiteful with your earlier comment on hoping this 'backfires' which btw it cannot, so hope you're ready for that reality.

    Void Elves were the floor, and allowing High Elf options it can only go up higher (heh) from there

    Whether that means more Void Elf specific customization or High Elf specific customization, all of it will be welcome and better than what options were available on Void Elves from the outset.

    You haven't lost anything, you're even gaining some facial hair that Void Elves have.

    To me it appears you don't understand the concept of sharing that Blizzard decided upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    Mhm, you have enough sense to post that yet are still attempting to be spiteful with your earlier comment on hoping this 'backfires' which btw it cannot, so hope you're ready for that reality.

    Void Elves were the floor, and allowing High Elf options it can only go up higher (heh) from there

    Whether that means more Void Elf specific customization or High Elf specific customization, all of it will be welcome and better than what options were available on Void Elves from the outset.

    You haven't lost anything, you're even gaining some facial hair that Void Elves have.

    To be it appears you don't understand the concept of sharing.
    Well congratulations upon stealing our looks. I am glad you’re so happy with it, but can’t see why I’m upset about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I'm fairly certain Blizzard is on record as saying Kul Tirans are in fact the same race as Stormwind Humans. They just went with the large models for players because they thought they were interesting and offered a diverse option that differed from the Stormwind body-type.
    Yes they have, on a couple of occasions. That's not going to stop people from being upset their 2-3 years were wasted trying to deny High Elves and thus engaging in pedantry or coming off as spiteful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phaelia View Post
    We haven’t lost much yet but, the High Elf fans want the moon and the stars. That’s what I’m talking about. All of our skins are gone to Void Elf customizations, on top of their voidy looks, and there’s nothing new but body jewelry and eyes for the Blood Elves. Now you guys want Paladins, access to green and golden eyes, access to all hair styles and colors, and I’ve even seen people kicking around a war for Quel’thalas scenario where the Blood elves lose their home. This is what I’m talking about.
    Giving Blood Elves both dark ranger and san’layn options would appease me but I doubt that will happen.
    sigh, once again it's not pie you still have your rights
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