Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[DeicideUH]

Void Elves and Silver Covenant are pretty much persona non grata in Quel'thalas. They should move on already and take Feralas instead. There's Eldre'thalas for them for the taking

Upgrade Quel'danil:

The highvale, the Silver Covenant and the void elves unite to create a new home. Quel'danil is perfect for an update, since it has very little content nowadays (in essence, 2 important NPCs and 3 interactable quest objects), so it could be reworked with minimum effort.

The main lodge would house martial classes. The main defenders would be a gestalt group of rangers, formed from all 3 elven groups.

The mage tower over the cliff would be staffed by Silver Covenant mages.

A hidden cave behind the waterfall would be maintained by the ren'dorei and decorated with void elf aesthetics. It would include a portal to Telogrus.

[ravenmoon]

haha lol I forgot I did this. https://imgur.com/bZ1S4ur (compare the upload date to the AR reveal date )

I already get blamed for Mechagnomes you might as well blame me for Vigh Elves too

Don't let it bother you, I was as much a supporter of them, and I love them, so some of my guildies, one of them race changed a character and levelled another mechagnome and was on his third.

Popularity is not a metric or aim for every race, some are just there to give you that alternative option, something different that doesn't have to be popular. Most people don't like gnomes, but they are greatly loved by those that love them, highly treasurd, it's worth doing them and a sub race on them.

We both gnow that any gnome concept will be subject to ridicule and criticism, to this day the original gnome race is the butt of jokes and a joke race, Pandas too.

[Yarathir]

If all of the blood elves (not just the shadow priests) couldn’t control when the void engulfed their body, I’d say no.

You mean the proc?

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Congratulations after years of fighting for something that did not belong to you, you still got it! The power of persuasion is strong

Well, considering that the Alliance didn't get it because it was given to the Horde because they lacked pretty races to begin with, I'm sure you'll be fine. Enjoy the free, hunchless orcs.

[Ardenaso]

Upgrade Quel'danil:

The highvale, the Silver Covenant and the void elves unite to create a new home. Quel'danil is perfect for an update, since it has very little content nowadays (in essence, 2 important NPCs and 3 interactable quest objects), so it could be reworked with minimum effort.

The main lodge would house martial classes. The main defenders would be a gestalt group of rangers, formed from all 3 elven groups.

The mage tower over the cliff would be staffed by Silver Covenant mages.

A hidden cave behind the waterfall would be maintained by the ren'dorei and decorated with void elf aesthetics. It would include a portal to Telogrus.

ayyyy that will greatly conflict with my Alteraci Human suggestion

but if yes, I'd also think some night elven moon wells would do too

[Dommie530]

You mean the proc?

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Well, considering that the Alliance didn't get it because it was given to the Horde because they lacked pretty races to begin with, I'm sure you'll be fine. Enjoy the free, hunchless orcs.

You are aware that high elves and night elves both stemmed from trolls, which are a part of the horde, therefore they should be part of the horde, thats your theory, Damn, thats a fine theory.

They dind't join the horde for a pretty race, they joined the horde for multiple reasons, which you should already know about if you actually would delve into the lore.
They dind't even join the alliance because they WANTED to, but because of an OATH. Now they made a CHOOSE, and guess what. they dind't pick the alliance, how come after so many years, people are so butthurt about it still.

[Yarathir]

You are aware that high elves and night elves both stemmed from trolls, which are a part of the horde, therefore they should be part of the horde, thats your theory, Damn, thats a fine theory.

High Elves are a part of the Alliance right now, so..

They dind't join the horde for a pretty race, they joined the horde for multiple reasons, which you should already know about if you actually would delve into the lore.

I did. I also know my history and know the meta reasons for them joining the Horde.

They dind't even join the alliance because they WANTED to, but because of an OATH. Now they made a CHOOSE, and guess what. they dind't pick the alliance, how come after so many years, people are so butthurt about it still.

Apparently they did choose the Alliance, because here they are!

[Dommie530]

High Elves are a part of the Alliance right now, so..

I did. I also know my history and know the meta reasons for them joining the Horde.

Apparently they did choose the Alliance, because here they are!

Yep, now after all those years they decided to split their nation and join you guys, which is fine by me, I just don't like it when people talk nonsense and twist things. I'm happy you got it, and i hope you enjoy it, truely.
Undead human skin varients incoming! =)

[ravenmoon]

1. not sure what exactly you're asking. Please clarify?

Not asking, just stating that the current in-game lore situation does support natural skinned Thalassian elves with blonde hair, whether they are high elves or blood elves who've come on to the alliance.

That's all, I got the impression fans were in some sort of bidding war with one side offering compromises to the other - which seems totally un-necss, so was just stating.

2. Again, please clarify. Not being rude, I just honestly not sure what you're asking here.

That was point 2, supporting the argument fleshed out above. It has some typos, was just saying the whole point of these customisation is so that your cahacater can now play as groups like High elves, Wildhammers, Sand trolls and a host of other existing iconic factions or new ones or simply have a different look. Doesn't even matter if they're official void elf race, they could be high elf void users.

Void elf is now both a faction and a race and the race void elf isn't necessarily the same as the faction void elf - simply because you can be a part of the faction as a high elf or void elf, because more than one race can now be identified as void elf

With regards to the blonde hair, why I would prefer that blood elves keep their hair colors is to maintain some level of differentiation between the two. They will share skin tones, but the hair can at least offer that point of differentiation.

Also, void elves getting the blood elf skin tone options means they have access to ALL of the blood elves skin options plus their own void options. If they got the blood elves hair options to then they'd have access to ALL (assuming) of the blood elves hair color options plus their own void elf options. Kinda unfair to give the AR all of the original races options plus their own.

I see your point, I thought so at first, but a lack of blonde hair seems a bit silly really, I would make green eyes the prohibition, because at the end of the day, you can choose what type of void elf or void elf faction affliated elf you are, it is odd to just "leave out blonde hair" - seeing that most of the natural skinned elves tagging a long with Alleria are blondies. The difference is more the options you can have, void elves have void effect hair, blood elves don't - they could give blood elves other distinguishing features, like flame hair - similar to some dark iron dwarves.. blood anima effects, I think this is more what they should aim for.

Leaving blonde hair out defeats what this change is basically about, and will only lead to another string of post requests for blond hair. I would say, give them 1 or 2 types of blond hair, maybe blond hair that's going purple or silver at the roots, could be available. But at least 1 pure blond.

Void elf is now both a faction and a race and the race void elf isn't necessarily the same as the faction void elf - simply because you can be a part of the faction as a high elf or void elf, because more than one race can now be identified as void elf.

[Yarathir]

Yep, now after all those years they decided to split their nation and join you guys, which is fine by me, I just don't like it when people talk nonsense and twist things. I'm happy you got it, and i hope you enjoy it, truely.

Well, the High Elves have been in the Alliance for a while and the Void Elves joined the Alliance when the Horde kicked them out and left them on their own after Legion.

Undead human skin varients incoming! =)

Perhaps. Undead are already getting 3 different rot options, new hair and a bunch of eye colors, though.

[Amaterasu65]

It's kinda shocking how anti-HE people still try to devalue what the Alliance players have been rightfully asking for, for ages. It's not like BE lose anything, they have more customizations, they also get blue eyes so they can also RP as HE. What's the problem? The fact that the Alliance can play the High Elf fantasy? They feel their race was stolen?

[Dommie530]

Well, the High Elves have been in the Alliance for a while and the Void Elves joined the Alliance when the Horde kicked them out and left them on their own after Legion.

Perhaps. Undead are already getting 3 different rot options, new hair and a bunch of eye colors, though.

With that assesment, dwarves, humans, ogres, etherals have been part of the horde ashwell. Let them now become playable options to!

[Ardenaso]

With that assesment, dwarves, humans, ogres, etherals have been part of the horde ashwell. Let them now become playable options to!

Make your own thread. No one's stopping you, come on

[Benomatic]

Stromgarde would make a suitable High elf capital/bastion. They are familiar with the lands since the Amani troll wars. Taught humans how to wield arcane in Arathor...

[elbleuet]

With that assesment, dwarves, humans, ogres, etherals have been part of the horde ashwell. Let them now become playable options to!

Night elves, gnomes and Draeneï have been part of the Horde too I guess.

[Aldo Hawk]

Yep, now after all those years they decided to split their nation and join you guys, which is fine by me, I just don't like it when people talk nonsense and twist things. I'm happy you got it, and i hope you enjoy it, truely.
Undead human skin varients incoming! =)

Ok, so, this thread you are commenting on has existed for two years now.

And you honestly believe High elves have -just- 'joined' the Alliance -now-? Just because devs gave a pair of crappy skins to Void elves?

No, you are wrong then, High elves have been in the Alliance longer than they were in the Horde under the name Blood elf, some High elves didn't even returned to their former kingdom ever, and these are in the Alliance.

[Dommie530]

Ok, so, this thread you are commenting on has existed for two years now.

And you honestly believe High elves have -just- 'joined' the Alliance -now-? Just because devs gave a pair of crappy skins to Void elves?

No, you are wrong then, High elves have been in the Alliance longer than they were in the Horde under the name Blood elf, some High elves didn't even returned to their former kingdom ever, and these are in the Alliance.

No sorry, u had a bunch of homeless ELVES, with nothing to back them up. With that assesment, all alliance races have also been a part of the horde for generations.

[Varodoc]

Have you heard the saying "don't count your chickens before they hatch"? They may, they may not, time will tell.

Considering how 3 years ago you and your friends thought pink skin tones for void elves were impossible, be quiet.

[Ielenia]

that the race was already playable

One group was playable. What was being requested was not that group.

And this was not the point that you quoted me so? and again, goblins didn't join the alliance so the horde would want one.

It has nothing to do with "having joined the other side or not". This is about representation within the faction.

and thats why i said most of the spammers, not all of then, its the very first thing i said in the quote you took, what is your point? just to be an agitator?

Because, again, you're being dishonest. You're taking people accepting a compromise as if it means "this is what we wanted all along".

[FlubberPuddy]

lool, such dishonesty, you are telling me putting this and saying it was ogres is the same thing of blizzard giving void elves? when ogres are not in the game and high elves were already in the other faction?

if they give me void ogres i would be completely fine dude, and ogres are not even in the game, i would be completely content with a void ogre instead, im not petty

sidestepping the actual question and example, this is what I mean. You, among majority of others care more about the looks. I remember when people used to say 'ok have high elves but make them FAT like Kul'Tirans, there's your high elves '

I'm proposing the same option to you here and you avoid it, because you care about looks of an ogre as well.

[Aldo Hawk]

No sorry, u had a bunch of homeless ELVES, with nothing to back them up. With that assesment, all alliance races have also been a part of the horde for generations.

I have never seen such wealthy homeless. You know, there's some cash involved when you can have mounts, armor, weapons, buildings, regalia, etc...

Apart from that, honestly, the rest of your post feel like gibberish, pretty please try to rephrase it so it can be understood.