Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Syegfryed]

Irrelevant. Because when we're talking about "playable race", which is the context of the word "race" used in this discussion, we're talking about groups within said race.

no, i am talking about race, when you jump in and try to distort the conversation forcing to be about groups and not races the problem is entire on you

i don't discuss about groups, never was my point, never talked about then, my thing is with races, you do well to remember that

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I prefer a sandy beige/blonde over a yellow/blonde anyways :P

Fingers crossed!

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no, i am talking about race, when you jump in and try to distort the conversation forcing to be about groups and not races the problem is entire on you

i don't discuss about groups, never was my point, never talked about then, my thing is with races, you do well to remember that

Well, then why you continue to argue with people that are talking about groups? Specially when race as you see it is irrelevant to political affiliation.

[DeicideUH]

I prefer a sandy beige/blonde over a yellow/blonde anyways :P

I've been saying that for a long time!
Silver-blue, beige, dark red!

[FlubberPuddy]

Well, then why you continue to argue with people that are talking about groups? Specially when race as you see it is irrelevant to political affiliation.

Some people just don't know when to stop, or they like to continue badgering others?

I mean at this point I don't see the purpose of any anti-helfer anymore trying to continue to argue.....what? What is there left to argue?

Even ObeliskKai and Broflake left because they already conceded their position lost and people that wanted High Elves won.

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I've been saying that for a long time!
Silver-blue, beige, dark red!

Really hope for those selections, as well as a black. But the black seems given seeing as it was part of the official preview.

[DeicideUH]

I made a small gallery of randomized blood elf appearances from alpha:

https://imgur.com/a/bTRWqGP

[Ielenia]

no, i am talking about race, when you jump in and try to distort the conversation forcing to be about groups and not races the problem is entire on you

i don't discuss about groups, never was my point, never talked about then, my thing is with races, you do well to remember that

If you're talking about "actual race", then your points are meaningless, because the idea of "actual race" does not pertain as a pre-requisite for new races or allied races. After all, trolls and zandalari trolls are the same "actual race". Highmountain tauren and and tauren are also the same "actual race". Humans and Kul'tirans, humans and gilneans, etc, etc.

If two groups are of the same race, it's meaningless. That doesn't stop them from being valid candidates to become playable "race" options.

[FlubberPuddy]

I made a small gallery of randomized blood elf appearances from alpha:

https://imgur.com/a/bTRWqGP

Blood Elf fans are going to be real happy with what's coming for em

The dark skin with the gold eyes looks real good.

[Ielenia]

I made a small gallery of randomized blood elf appearances from alpha:

https://imgur.com/a/bTRWqGP

Some of them have the glow of one of their eyes dimmer than the other, like, for example, pictures #1 and #2, there are others, though. Is that a graphical bug, or intended?

[Phaelia]

Blood Elf fans are going to be real happy with what's coming for em

The dark skin with the gold eyes looks real good.

Still no Dark Ranger or San’layn options, which I really would love to see. I’ve already conceded to all other arguments and I’m not trying to start one but I’d love some extra options for Blood Elves, especially if they’re darker in nature.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Still no Dark Ranger or San’layn options, which I really would love to see. I’ve already conceded to all other arguments and I’m not trying to start one but I’d love some extra options for Blood Elves, especially if they’re darker in nature.

I mean I do agree, but don't you think that's more of a "BE thread" issue? But yeh, I do agree red eyes would be 100% amazing and I want them.

[Phaelia]

I mean I do agree, but don't you think that's more of a "BE thread" issue? But yeh, I do agree red eyes would be 100% amazing and I want them.

I wasn’t aware there was a Blood Elf Customization thread. I’d gladly post there

[DeicideUH]

Some of them have the glow of one of their eyes dimmer than the other, like, for example, pictures #1 and #2, there are others, though. Is that a graphical bug, or intended?

It's intended. Blind eye options. There's even one with both eyes blinded!

Still no Dark Ranger or San’layn options, which I really would love to see. I’ve already conceded to all other arguments and I’m not trying to start one but I’d love some extra options for Blood Elves, especially if they’re darker in nature.

After noticing how good some of the skins would be with red eyes, I'm now defending red and fiery orange eyes for blood elves. It would make a lot of people happy.

[Dunkelzahn]

Can someone please tell me why these players need to see "High Elf" as their race name in order to be happy?

I think I'm missing something really, seriously, and deeply fundamental about this argument.

[Kallisto]

It's kinda shocking how anti-HE people still try to devalue what the Alliance players have been rightfully asking for, for ages. It's not like BE lose anything, they have more customizations, they also get blue eyes so they can also RP as HE. What's the problem? The fact that the Alliance can play the High Elf fantasy? They feel their race was stolen?

The problem is that right now from what it seems EVERYTHING blood elf is going to Void Elf without something on the Blood elf side that keeps things separate. Void Elves still have the void stuff that makes them unique. So a skin type or something major should remain on the blood elf side to let them have something unique to blood elves. Jewellery under armour really isn't going to cut it. Essentially it needs to be something you can see at first glance like skin tones. Maybe undead elf skins to balance the void skins.

[Redzonetode]

The problem is that right now from what it seems EVERYTHING blood elf is going to Void Elf without something on the Blood elf side that keeps things separate. Void Elves still have the void stuff that makes them unique. So a skin type or something major should remain on the blood elf side to let them have something unique to blood elves. Jewellery under armour really isn't going to cut it. Essentially it needs to be something you can see at first glance like skin tones. Maybe undead elf skins to balance the void skins.

"Everything"

hairstyles, hair colors, jewelry (the necklaces on female go over armor), golden eyes, green eyes

stop exaggerating. all of these are visible on first glance

[Kyriani]

The problem is that right now from what it seems EVERYTHING blood elf is going to Void Elf without something on the Blood elf side that keeps things separate. Void Elves still have the void stuff that makes them unique. So a skin type or something major should remain on the blood elf side to let them have something unique to blood elves. Jewellery under armour really isn't going to cut it. Essentially it needs to be something you can see at first glance like skin tones. Maybe undead elf skins to balance the void skins.

I'm all for Darkfallen aesthetics for the Blood Elves!

[FlubberPuddy]

"Everything"

hairstyles, hair colors, jewelry (the necklaces on female go over armor), golden eyes, green eyes

stop exaggerating. all of these are visible on first glance

Yup, and those are all huge things that are kept unique. You can very firmly be an iconic Blood Elf and the Alliance players do not get that at all!

Conversely, you can be an iconic Void Elf and Horde players do not get that at all!!

What's shared are the iconic 'High Elf' look. Which is pretty much human skin tones + blue eyes.

An argument for hair color can be made, but there's at least one regular hair color coming to void elves (black) which fits with the normal hair colors High Elves often have.

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Still no Dark Ranger or San’layn options, which I really would love to see. I’ve already conceded to all other arguments and I’m not trying to start one but I’d love some extra options for Blood Elves, especially if they’re darker in nature.

The more the merrier! They should allow it at this point imo!

[matrix123mko]

I'm all for Darkfallen aesthetics for the Blood Elves!

I hope we will get that with return of the rightful king.

[Edoll]

It's not just the race name. It's also the racials, heritage gear, race mount etc. Everything that makes a race distinct in the game.

Void Elves are just not High Elves. They are corrupted, and you can't ignore that. It's part of their identity. Just making the hair blonde and the eyes blue won't change that.

It can if you let it. It’s called role play or head cannon. Your night elf can be from Darnassus or Dire Maul. Your human can be from Stormwind, Gilneas, Alterac, Lordearan, or Stromguarde. My gnome is from Dalaran and if gnomes get glowing eyes, she’ll use the purple ones.

You don’t have to use the heritage armor or the mount. Racials are easy to ignore and quest text calling you a “void elf” is as inconsequential as calling you a troll if you’re playing a Zandalari.

Jaina is a Kul Tiran even if she looks nothing like the playable ones and doesn’t have the racials.

[Amaterasu65]

It's not about where your character is from. If you have Void racials and you start out with all your Void buddies in a Void rift, you're a Void Elf. You can pretend you're not, but you'd be wrong.

Jaina being a Kul Tiran is a completely inadequate comparison. Not all Kul Tirans are fat.

With that logic, Wildhammer tattoos being added for dwarves still make them Bronzebeard. Even though they were added for the sole reason to allow Wildhammer Dwarves as a playable option without having to create an AR.

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The problem is that right now from what it seems EVERYTHING blood elf is going to Void Elf without something on the Blood elf side that keeps things separate. Void Elves still have the void stuff that makes them unique. So a skin type or something major should remain on the blood elf side to let them have something unique to blood elves. Jewellery under armour really isn't going to cut it. Essentially it needs to be something you can see at first glance like skin tones. Maybe undead elf skins to balance the void skins.

A fully armored VE could not be told apart from a BE til now. BEs still have more customizations like hair, ornaments etc.