Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[matrix123mko]

aaaaand why they must be distinct from the same race they are? i really don't get it. did they mutated somehow to be more muscular? or Blood elves mutated to more thin bodytype? care to explain if even void infusion wasn't enough to alter elf body type?

They reproduce with lesser races(void corrupted Vrykul) as Elisande said.

[Zorish]

They reproduce with lesser races(void corrupted Vrykul) as Elisande said.

theeeen they are not High elves now? they are HALF elves? and mustn't look like elves by face?

[Deleted]

aaaaand why they must be distinct from the same race they are? i really don't get it. did they mutated somehow to be more muscular? or Blood elves mutated to more thin bodytype? care to explain if even void infusion wasn't enough to alter elf body type?

(As proposed in this thread,) they have a different/more demanding lifestyle than Blood Elves. Void Elves are/were pretty much all Blood Elves to my understanding, though not gonna lie I think their implementation was pretty lazy. High Elves have also been intermingling with Humans, and it's been suggested numerous times that Half Elves/Half Elf customization options could be included with the whole package.

These arguments have made the rounds in this thread countless times.

[Obelisk Kai]

(As proposed in this thread,) they have a different/more demanding lifestyle than Blood Elves. Void Elves are/were pretty much all Blood Elves to my understanding, though not gonna lie I think their implementation was pretty lazy. High Elves have also been intermingling with Humans, and it's been suggested numerous times that Half Elves/Half Elf customization options could be included with the whole package.

These arguments have made the rounds in this thread countless times.

Yes but just because you are satisfied that they are a solution does not mean they are a solution.

Zorish is right, if void energies are not enough to alter a model then there is no real rationale in lore for the Alliance high elves to get a different, more muscular model because of their lifestyle.

There are Blood Elf warriors and Blood Elf hunters. Neither of those deal with magic beyond their addiction, and both of them lead lives as rigorous as you think the Alliance High Elves do.

If you will accept a new model, why not just go the whole shebang and call them Half Elves. Everything you want in that package except a single important adjective.

[Strangewayes]

Yes but just because you are satisfied that they are a solution does not mean they are a solution.

Zorish is right, if void energies are not enough to alter a model then there is no real rationale in lore for the Alliance high elves to get a different, more muscular model because of their lifestyle.

There are Blood Elf warriors and Blood Elf hunters. Neither of those deal with magic beyond their addiction, and both of them lead lives as rigorous as you think the Alliance High Elves do.

If you will accept a new model, why not just go the whole shebang and call them Half Elves. Everything you want in that package except a single important adjective.

It's too late now, someone at Blizzard wanted to play as Drizzt and now you all have to deal with it.

In a certain Blizzard developers famous words... "F#@* those guys"

[Gurluas]

Remember that models are generic to the race archetype as there are no body types in the game atm.

This means that say...Humans are all muscular because their archetype is warrior/Footman.

While Blood elves aren't very buff because their archetype is being a caster.
High elves would have a Ranger archetype, so them being muscular is good.

It's a bit similar as to how Void elves are more muscular since their archetype is also Ranger.

[Zorish]

cool. so you want alter every "High elf" model to more muscular... ok. So you ignore that "ranger" are part of the "High elves" before the fall of the sunwell. And Blood elves leader are actually ranger. And i think entire Windrunner house were rangers based on everything we saw about them.

Summary: "High elves" were rangers with few magical tricks in their pockets, mages, priests and now Blood elves have MILITARY order - Blood knights who are trained to use melee weapons and wear plate armor. Results? i would say that BLOOD ELVES exactly must be more muscular especialy Blood Knight and guards (warriors). So why exactly so called "High elves" must be Muscular if their bodies require (not on mortal level, but still) magic for working on 100%. Like really we saw withered in the suramar. Even if High elves are not "addict" to this degree, they still need magic as i don't know vitamins. And for building "Mass" for "muscular" type - you must have actually ENOUGH of food, vitamins and training. not only training. no okay with training you will develop some musculature, but CLEARLY not "bulker" than someone who have enough recources in their body.

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The physique of a priest. Gurluas is onto something there, just because there are Blood Elven rangers/warriors does not mean High Elves can't have a different "standard" look...?

[Zorish]

and as someone in this thread (or some other) proposed you can have thinnier type of elves if you so eager. Just because they made their choice to be arrogant and suffer. suffering won't help you be bulky.

[matrix123mko]

These models look good, just make a little longer necks.

[Oswen]

https://i.imgur.com/PPJybM7.png.

These look very nice but I'll be honest and say that they give a half elf vibe more than a high elf one though, especially the tanner skin colours.
Add shorter but still pointed ears and that's pretty much how I would imagine a Warcraft Half elf, which wouldn't be that unreasonable considering that the remaining high elves seem to mix with humans more often than not as even Elisande pointed out during the Suramar campaign.

Arathor, Alodi, Kalec and the other characters with mixed heritage could use a better model aswell.

[Magnagarde]

At this point this thread isn't even about wanting high elves, but some nature-based humanesque elves that are now supposed to be close to night elves and even shamanism. There's even black high elves in the pictures with whatever all of the aforementioned has to do with the Silver Covenant.

[Blazindragon1737]

It can't be Thal'Dranath. Thal'Dranath is the original Darnassian name for the Broken Shores. In one of the pre-Legion audio dramas, It was mentionsed that the Tomb of Sargeras was on Thal'Dranath.

The Broken Shore was once a part of Thal'Dranath yes that is true but due to the Corruption of the Tomb of Sargeras it was deemed The Broken Shore and not a part of Thal'Dranath anymore which is why they were also going be separate zones to better imply that. The reasons they didn't add they rest of Thal'Dranath was because they wanted to work on future stuff like Argus and the other reasons that I said beforehand

[Magnagarde]

Whats wrong with black high elves? there were multi cultered elves in the actual movie.

Because lorewise there can't be any black high elves. That's whats wrong with it.

[Blazindragon1737]

I believe the Druid thing was a reference to the WCII manual and was never used in any lore. In my opinion it was retconned away as early as WCIII when proper druid lore was introduced. Do you have any examples of Highvale druids?

There are no High Elf Shamans. It's a change that we've been debating in this thread. Probably the name, "Possible Classes" should be changed. Maybe "Proposed New Class" or something like that.

No sadly I do not. I guess I was seeing things lol I could've sworn a saw a few NPC's but oh well. I do have this though https://wow.gamepedia.com/Elven_druid . Also I figure that if any faction of High Elves could or would be Druids and/or Shamans it would be the Highvale High Elves

That would be great and probably easier to understand tbh

[orukam]

cool. so you want alter every "High elf" model to more muscular... ok. So you ignore that "ranger" are part of the "High elves" before the fall of the sunwell. And Blood elves leader are actually ranger. And i think entire Windrunner house were rangers based on everything we saw about them.

Summary: "High elves" were rangers with few magical tricks in their pockets, mages, priests and now Blood elves have MILITARY order - Blood knights who are trained to use melee weapons and wear plate armor. Results? i would say that BLOOD ELVES exactly must be more muscular especialy Blood Knight and guards (warriors). So why exactly so called "High elves" must be Muscular if their bodies require (not on mortal level, but still) magic for working on 100%. Like really we saw withered in the suramar. Even if High elves are not "addict" to this degree, they still need magic as i don't know vitamins. And for building "Mass" for "muscular" type - you must have actually ENOUGH of food, vitamins and training. not only training. no okay with training you will develop some musculature, but CLEARLY not "bulker" than someone who have enough recources in their body.

I'm going to try to answer your provocations in disguise of doubt using a more accessible example for you.

Let's say you American. So we could say that you're a Caucasian Human.
I am Brazilian. So we could say that I am a Latin Human.

Even though these are not absolute truths, due to the misigenation of peoples of our world, and even BEING THE SAME race, our living conditions, lifestyle, habits and climate create small aesthetic differences between peoples.

So ... now includes in the middle effects of fantasy and magic magic, beyond of course, of habits, living conditions, lifestyle and habits (nor will we include climate).

This is what these people are doing.

Do not make a fool of yourself. People here are struggling to show that what they want is not to steal the precious "blood Elf look" you want to protect so much.
They are being hardworking and creative, as well as developing interesting stories to justify this just so as not to hurt the ego of the "little paladins of aesthetic hordes."

Does not agree? let the staff have fun with his concepts.
Do you think blizz will never implement that?
No problem. People are having fun with no pretense. Stop being annoying

OK?
Thank you!

[Deleted]

I'm going to try to answer your provocations in disguise of doubt using a more accessible example for you.

Let's say you American. So we could say that you're a Caucasian Human.
I am Brazilian. So we could say that I am a Latin Human.

Even though these are not absolute truths, due to the misigenation of peoples of our world, and even BEING THE SAME race, our living conditions, lifestyle, habits and climate create small aesthetic differences between peoples.

So ... now includes in the middle effects of fantasy and magic magic, beyond of course, of habits, living conditions, lifestyle and habits (nor will we include climate).

This is what these people are doing.

Do not make a fool of yourself. People here are struggling to show that what they want is not to steal the precious "blood Elf look" you want to protect so much.
They are being hardworking and creative, as well as developing interesting stories to justify this just so as not to hurt the ego of the "little paladins of aesthetic hordes."

Does not agree? let the staff have fun with his concepts.
Do you think blizz will never implement that?
No problem. People are having fun with no pretense. Stop being annoying

OK?
Thank you!

Nicely written. Summs up pretty well what I think currently about some of these very annoying guys. And it shows pretty easyly that their agenda is not to protect anything or so, they are just making up stuff and once you say: "Fine I respect that, we will change that" they suddenly come up with other things to continue spitting into peoples soup. So that is their whole point. There is no argumentation, they just want to fuck up people.

[Sorrior]

I cannot for the life of me get into the headspace that made them think Void Elves were a good choice.

I can KINDA in the whole "Omg ya know what i heard is cool and popular? Emo goth stuff with darkness and using it. I hear kids talk about it so much and anime has it alot so lets do it"
Basicalllly it would take being VERY VERY out of touch with subcultures these days buut is doable.

[Deleted]

I can KINDA in the whole "Omg ya know what i heard is cool and popular? Emo goth stuff with darkness and using it. I hear kids talk about it so much and anime has it alot so lets do it"
Basicalllly it would take being VERY VERY out of touch with subcultures these days buut is doable.

That is pretty much what I think.

I doubt Blizz had bad intentions. They were about to include High Elves and though they might be a bit boring and people deserve better, so one came up with that "awesome super high elf vampire" which is so much cooler.
Blizz just didn't understand why people wanted High Elves in first place and not super high elves. They just tried to make somethig better, more awesome and cool.
However that backfired heavyly and I am pretty sure Blizz is currently about to fix that with actual High Elves.

[Theodarzna]

I can KINDA in the whole "Omg ya know what i heard is cool and popular? Emo goth stuff with darkness and using it. I hear kids talk about it so much and anime has it alot so lets do it"
Basicalllly it would take being VERY VERY out of touch with subcultures these days buut is doable.

The problem is that it is them literally repeating what they said they'd never do after the Draenei in BC. They said they wouldn't just plop a radical ret con on us or some race out of nowhere like that again,

And yet, here we are with Void Elves.