"If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"
Here we go, another "Highborne are a massive part of nelf culture guys plz believe me" post, disguised as a blood elf post, disguised as a faction identity post.Proposal: Switch from 2 faction hub to 4 one. Horde , alliance, night elf, Thalassian elf.
Fix Silvermoon, make it central Thalassian hub, use Suramar for the night elf hub
We're going deep cover lads.
It's exactly what I think, and I hope Blizzard reconsider the addition of more Allied races based on this.
Yeah, both potential Allied races have their problems by just being these aesthetic options, I really think they just thought they could work on it at the same time they did customizations, new customizations are the big characteristic of Shadowlands, like Allied races were for BfA, so it's kinda normal that they try to do that, but obviously it just ends up as half-assed, but surely enough if you at least seek for the bare minimum.
Wildhammer Dwarves have different physical conditions, they are taller than Bronzebeards, maybe not exactly at the middle of humans and Bronzebeards, but taller anyways.
Allied races are just ideal, and criticism about it being too simple is just missing the point, since Allied races were the response to the request from players to have more playable options, and they are not adressing it by the customization side of it, which was another part of the request about these.
Shortly: Allied races are the ideal ground between customizations to add roleplaying possibilities and new races for that purpose, and they are taking steps back by not continuing adding these.
And I think Wildhammers are just being treated too badly because of this, as if they were just tattooed Dwarves, when it isn't the case. But yeah, it just looked too simple, and the discussion about High elves show that players have some sense of Blizzard being too austere about new additions, and endorsing such mentality is just nuts.Also I don't see a 1000-page-long thread about Wildhammer Dwarves on the forum, so who cares.
I still think these two should be added as Allied races, regardless of these new customizations they just added.
Blizzard should just remove racials.
They could allow the elven races to become the first races that are truly neutral to each other in those cities, it solves a ton of issues. Just make them sanctuary and then give each faction 1 new main city. I vote for a rebuilt Undercity to fit the modern look of the Forsaken and allow the denizens of lordaeron who wish to see their undead loved ones visit whenever they like, as well as a rebuilt Gilneas where they will repay the hospitality and debt to the night elves by rebuilding it for both of their communities together.
He always said that High Elves are 'kinda' Blood Elves or 'pretty much' Blood Elves which inherently implies that they are different. He flat out said that High Elves are not planned to be playable, that High Elves don't have major settlements, etc. I just don't get how you see him talking about them as if they are one and the same despite all that. Like, honestly, I don't.
But he pretty much said that. He basically said that the looks of High Elves are already taken by Horde. If you want that looks, go play Horde.
But you are the one that keeps saying "that race was already playable" when it's entirely irrelevant to the point. High Elves exist as another political entity, another group.
Which doesn't make sense from an in universe perspective where several races are present in both factions (thalassian elves, kul tiran, humans, pandaren) and it makes it clear it's a gameplay choice that evidently doesn't reflect in universe politics.nothing in the game say that is irrelevant, per see, we only have different races playable, not groups as their full fledged stand alone thing,
The whole point that "X race can be on only one faction" doesn't reflect the actual nuance of the setting, were not only individuals, but entire organizations exist on both factions.
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Honestly this is just the most inaccurate way to even thinking about what a theme is, dear lord. It makes no sense.
It's just ludicrous how "blood elf theme" and "void theme" are even comparable.
Light worship, Fel usage, Arcane reliance, Wilds marksman; these are ALL different themes each of one comparable to Void Study. The sheer arrogance to pretend that the "void theme" of void elves is even comparable to ALL the blood elven themes combined is just delusional.
Void Elves literally have one theme; they use void, while Blood Elves can go from pious light worshipers with golden eyes to demon hunters.
Trying to define "theme" as "but these to get to be blue and pink and these just pink so it's 2 themes on one side and 1 on the other" is outrageously silly. Especially if there's is literally no addressing why Void Elves get to be pink, it would literally still be just Void Theme with them.
I am 100% into the idea of adding Dark Ranger customization to Blood Elves, but the sheer misunderstanding of what a "theme" actually is, is utterly frustrating.
Just say aesthetics, that's what you mean, and learn what a theme actually is FFS.
My next Alliance High elf mage. What do you think guys ?
"If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"
I think if Blizzard wants to give additional hair styles to Void Elves the easiest thing they can do without just copying everything from Blood Elves is to copy some styles from other Alliance races.
Right now Humans share several hairstyles with Blood Elves. Even if for some reason Blizzard wants to avoid those particular styles, there's still quite a few from Humans alone that Blizzard could share with Void Elves without stepping on Blood Elf toes. And if Blizzard doesn't mind the crossover, they could also share those styles that Humans and Blood Elves have in common, with Void Elves.
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try this... with and without wings!
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This is a pretty recent opinion I have seen and people start t take their loss, This is glorious to read hehe.
Specially from you.
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The crown gives you orange/golden eyes.. I would say ditch the crown, doesn't match what you are trying.
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Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Not a fan of low res transmog, but I can see what you are doing with it.
I made another version, I hope you like it:
Here's a link to the wowhead dressing room if you want to turn it or whatever. https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/dres...B8K8rQy8zA287o Had to use a Blood elf, since the new Void elf skins aren't available in the wowhead dressing room for now, but well, just dummies can care about it.
Man, it's just wonderful people can finally enjoy these.
when we are talking about races, isn't irrelevant,because is the truth, if no one had said race, like the dude clearly was saying race wanting to mean other thing, i would not be here
it makes totally sense in the unvierse eprspective and what the game is about, racial and faction warfareWhich doesn't make sense from an in universe perspective where several races are present in both factions (thalassian elves, kul tiran, humans, pandaren) and it makes it clear it's a gameplay choice that evidently doesn't reflect in universe politics.
and the game since tis concentration is about different races in different factions, there is not other nuances of individuals other than people giving then more meaning that they hadThe whole point that "X race can be on only one faction" doesn't reflect the actual nuance of the setting, were not only individuals, but entire organizations exist on both factions.
none of those things are visually visible apart from just the eyes, in this exchange blood elves get to be 2 races in one(and people asking more) with all blood elf skins and blood elves apparently just getting 3 blue eye colors.It's just ludicrous how "blood elf theme" and "void theme" are even comparable.
Light worship, Fel usage, Arcane reliance, Wilds marksman; these are ALL different themes each of one comparable to Void Study. The sheer arrogance to pretend that the "void theme" of void elves is even comparable to ALL the blood elven themes combined is just delusional.
if they were exact the same they would look exact the same, not look like drusts being half-giants with 8ft
our current selection of playable races is exactly that, races, not groups, nothing changed yetExcept it doesn't, as shown by our current selection of playable races.
if you are talking about groups, say groups, don't try to change the meaning of the word to fit your shenanigasI've already explained that. When people use the word "race" when talking about playable races, it's being talked about groups.
and since there is not 2 groups of the same race playable being the same that is meaninglessBecause that's what you are, as a "playable race": a group within said race.
Yeah, a shirt can do the job, so it doesn't have bare shoulders under the shoulderpads, which is absolutely not of my liking.
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/item...-tooters-tunic
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/item...-shirt&bonus=0
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/item...eregan-doublet
https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/item...exodar-doublet
These have nice matching colors and the right amount of length to it to replace the previous chest piece when you want wings.