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    Quote Originally Posted by Ielenia View Post
    If you're talking about "actual race", then your points are meaningless
    for you apparently, but this is not for you to decide
    because the idea of "actual race" does not pertain as a pre-requisite for new races or allied races.
    indeed it does, as blizzard own words said the allied races are indeed another races/subraces, and they never added in the game the same race but with another group, neither in the other faction

    If they put alterac humans - the same as stormwind humans - in the horde, then i will agree with you that is meaningless

    If two groups are of the same race, it's meaningless.
    Same as above, nothing implied that, all of your false analogy don't change that
    That doesn't stop them from being valid candidates to become playable "race" options.
    it literally does, just like they are not making wildhammer an "playable race" option as another allied race, they being the same race as dwarves, will come as just customization

    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Well, then why you continue to argue with people that are talking about groups?.
    no one was talking about groups, i was talking with others about races, not a single time the term group, was brought up, him, quoted me arguing for the sake of argue, he keep doing this a lot

    Specially when race as you see it is irrelevant to political affiliation
    nothing in the game say that is irrelevant, per see, we only have different races playable, not groups as their full fledged stand alone thing,

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    Would be nice to have Darkfallen skin/eyes unlocked for Blood Elves after a quest, like Night Warrior Night Elves.
    Something involving vampire Kael'Thas maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alixie View Post
    Why would blood elves get red eyes and grey skin options? Didnt all of the belf dark rangers flew the coop with Sylvanas, or are still working for her undercover? I know the nelf dark rangers took off with Calia, but I assumed Sylvanas's personal entourage left too. And the Darkfallen (the undead belf vampires?) were killed off in Voldun?
    why void elves would get blood elf skin options too? it rly matters anymore?

    If void elves are basically 2 races in one, having all blood elf skin tones, plus their void elf ones, plus apparently unique eye-colors, is only fair that either blood elves get to rp as another race with the darkfallen or all of void elves eye colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
    What I never understood...
    If high elves where mutated high borne... Why do they have blue eyes?
    Speaking of night elves, female will finally get the option to have golden eyes. And so far it's always said that high borne have golden eyes and regular kaldorei blue eyes. So why do high elves have blue eyes?
    Golden eyes were a really, really rare thing back before the Sundering. Only known specimens were Illidan and Azshara. Regular Highborne had silver and blueish eyes like High Elves and Nightborne after them. If you go back to do the Xe'Ra - Illidan flashback questiline in Legion, you will see that Blizzard used Death Knight skins for male night elves in the first flashback cutscene where Stormrages were infants. They did that to give them blue eyes instead of golden, because golden eyes weren't a thing back then. (Since then the Death Knight eye effect change has made that cutscene bit broken).



    Practicing Druidic magic CAN turn Kaldorei's eyes golden, and that is the reason golden eyes are common these days on male night elves. Most of them are druids or very least been near one for the last several thousands of years.

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    Might be cheating to mention it here, but Blood Elf males got some more options now in the Wowhead dressing room (Ears, new beards).

    I just worry I made my character too hot for this world. https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/dres...zLA8M2m8z4J87R

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    indeed it does, as blizzard own words said the allied races are indeed another races/subraces, and they never added in the game the same race but with another group, neither in the other faction

    If they put alterac humans - the same as stormwind humans - in the horde, then i will agree with you that is meaningless
    No, it's not. Kul'tirans are exactly the same race as stormwind humans. Blizzard just made some of the "race" burly and bigger for differentiation. Void elves and gilneans are another example: they are blood elves and humans, respectively. Hell: the gilnean curse is not hereditary, meaning the children of a gilnean is a normal human.

    it literally does,
    Except it doesn't, as shown by our current selection of playable races.

    no one was talking about groups, i was talking with others about races, not a single time the term group, was brought up, him, quoted me arguing for the sake of argue, he keep doing this a lot
    I've already explained that. When people use the word "race" when talking about playable races, it's being talked about groups. Because that's what you are, as a "playable race": a group within said race.
    I did a Necromancer thing. Check it out! All feedback welcome!
    Update 08/17: I changed how the Bone spec's golem mechanic works, as well as some other minor changes.
    I also did a Bard thing! Questions, comments and ideas, all welcome!
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    I'm assuming and hoping these arcane bags under the eyes are not going to be a permanent fixture... ^^'



    (tfw you're hungover on arcwine)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    I think the devs chose to replace the old high elf female eye (which was purplish blue with white schlera) with a full purple eye.
    The males still have teal eyes.

    I think the males will eventually get changed to purple as well. To give high elves their own identity.

    Which is fun. When everyone got blue eyes, high elves get purple. So, no one has high elves!
    I'm thinking since the Silver Covenant is practically persona non grata and they have no more proper connection to the Sunwell, the Dalaran magic crystals is what coped them and that resulted in purple eyes
    Lightbound Orcs > High Elves https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...ace-suggestion

    Blizzard should realize that Alteraci Humans will fulfill the Young Adult Dystopia Anarchy fantasy for Warcraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    The one in the middle is the one that has the most blue out of every of them, but lots of green also.

    The other two are just teal, with equal amounts of green and blue.

    And yeah, by placing these in paint these ones have more blue than the others.

    I don't understand why they even try to make them look different at this point, they should have just released an Allied race, now everyone is just trapped in mediocrity.

    I can see your point, but the difference is too minimal honestly, but it's there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalassian Bob View Post
    I'm assuming and hoping these arcane bags under the eyes are not going to be a permanent fixture... ^^'



    (tfw you're hungover on arcwine)
    They do not look so extreme in-game, it’s a thing with transparency settings in the dressing room. Compare it with my pictures:


    Last edited by DeicideUH; 2020-06-04 at 01:33 PM.
    Whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    They do not look so extreme in-game, it’s a thing with transparency settings in the dressing room. Compare it with my pictures:

    [img]https://i.imgur.com/hHQgflv.jpg[/mg]
    [img]https://i.imgur.com/8bzPftl.jpg[/mg]
    That's true. Thanks for the comparison. Still not keen on how much the eye glow permeates to the rest of the face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalassian Bob View Post
    I'm assuming and hoping these arcane bags under the eyes are not going to be a permanent fixture... ^^'



    (tfw you're hungover on arcwine)
    That is supposed to be glow from the eyes. WoWheads dressing room shows those wrong currently and makes them look like cheap make up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    That is supposed to be glow from the eyes. WoWheads dressing room shows those wrong currently and makes them look like cheap make up.
    Haha! I'm glad it's just a dressing room deficiency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalassian Bob View Post
    Haha! I'm glad it's just a dressing room deficiency.
    It looked awful when they were first datamining female worgen skins. It seemed like that for some reason Blizzard had decided to give them bright neon eye make up. Only later they made the connection that those colors were supposed to be tied to the new glowing eyes female worgen got, and were also displaying completely wrong in WoWHead's datamining tools.
    Last edited by Lahis; 2020-06-04 at 01:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    It looked awful when they were first datamining female worgen skins. It seemed like that for some reason Blizzard had decided to give them bright neon eye make up. Only later they made the connection that those colors were supposed to be tied to the new glowing eyes female worgen got, and were also displaying completely wrong in WoWHead's datamining tools.
    Haha oh yeah! The Lady Gaga worgen were horrifying! xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raivo LV View Post
    I would be totally fine with white hair option to make my Velf look like Helf, and maybe couple of new hairstyles who don't scream edgy, wet emo hair, but Helf.

    Personally, I don't like new darker tones on Belfs at all, they lose their belf look, but if people want them sure, why not.
    Yeah definitely we should get some non-emo/screamo hairstyles. Doesn't have to be same as Blood Elves, but some more normal ones for High Elf aspect would be nice.

    Also that's the best way to be! "I don't personally like this thing, but if others wanted it then ok".

    Unfortunately, not many have this kind of mindset so thank you for having it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    And yeah, by placing these in paint these ones have more blue than the others.

    I don't understand why they even try to make them look different at this point, they should have just released an Allied race, now everyone is just trapped in mediocrity.

    I can see your point, but the difference is too minimal honestly, but it's there.
    Yeah I don't understand why they try for difference either. As I told another poster here, it almost comes off as some internal employee going 'MUST.NOT.GIVE.TRUE.BLUE.EYES.TO.BLOOD.ELVES.' Like they're allergic to having the same customizations show up on the diff sides despite Pandaren existing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brutally Honest View Post
    Bronzebeard and Wildhammer do not have such a distinction. The same racials make sense for them. Although you can argue for certain racials to be unfitting for Wildhammers, like Stoneform, depends on what the lore behind that is.
    No Bronzebeard racial makes sense for Wildhammer dwarves, nor do their voiceovers.

    Stoneform: Learned by tapping into earthen heritage thanks to a ritual discovered with archeology knowledge. Wildhammers may be able to learn it aswell but that's a moot point since they don't really care about archeology in their culture, it would be like saying that an high elf can learn voidform by learning how to tap into void energies.

    Explorer - Archeology bonus : see previous point

    Frost Resistance: Wildhammers live on hills and not on frosty peaks, they should have nature resistance instead with all the storm hammers they like to throw around and their shamanistic attitude.

    Might of the Mountain: They are hill dwarves.

    Blizzard just went the easy route with them and that's it.
    Wildhammers should have racials all about their storm hammers, something about pets because of their gryphon mastery (think Orc Command or Mag'har bonuses) and nature resistance.

    Orcs and Trolls are more lucky in this regard, their racials are very generic (Berserking, Blood fury and so on) and can fit any tribe/clans.

    "High Elves" just being a skin choice are exactly like what is happening with Wildhammer dwarves, an easy and lazy way out but sufficent enough to allow people to roleplay their characters like they want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    Blood Elf fans are going to be real happy with what's coming for em

    The dark skin with the gold eyes looks real good.
    I would like to have tattoos too

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    Wildhammer actually look glorious in the mountain king heritage armor!!

    I really hope the feather accessory comes to the elves (ALL elves)!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I would like to have tattoos too
    Yes please!

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    Omg if you use the short ear option for Blood Elves in the dressing room it finally covers the ears with helmets!!!! YAY

    That's going to be god send to all elf players I imagine.

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