1. #19821
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    This does not surprise me. I said for a long time that Blizzard seemed to want to give blood elves a fancy high society look. The farstrider tattoos are more due to fans looking back into old games to suggest different looks for high elves than anything Blizzard has done or hinted in over 20 years.

    I do hope blood elves get some sort of runes like in that TBC box art, however. That feels more likely right now. With orcs getting not one or two, but three layers of customizable textures over skins (scars, tatoos AND body paint), I feel more races will get options like those in the second pass. Cross your fingers.

    BTW, the alpha cliente/servers are not updated yet. None of the datamined changes are available yet. I hope Blizzard activate the new build soon.
    Given that there hasn't been a single Blood Elf character that harkens to that Farstrider look that Alleria uses since their introduction, to me it has never felt like a possibility. Even Rommath like tattoos and scar/runes feel unlikely (but a lot less so) cause they are mostly BC concepts that we haven't seen brought forward a lot.

    But, if they can't even bring us back to the start of Blood Elf aesthetics (BC) I certainly doubt a lot more they are going to bring us even further into aesthetics that were never even used on Blood Elves since introduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Coe View Post
    You are being ignorant on purpose.
    You're projecting. Ignorance would be ignoring what the developers have been saying about these new customizations coming to players in Shadowlands.

    In the end players who want their High Elves and Wildhammers are going to enjoy themselves so much they won't even notice the petty people who try and go, 'BUT ACSHULLEE'.

  3. #19823
    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Coe View Post
    And before Blizzard had added Void Elves to the Alliance, they've also said Blood Elves are gonna stay on the Horde side. They've said many things about Pandaren and Demon Hunters. What they say is irrelevant. They say many things that either are outright lies or things they just later change their minds about. Especially if the community convinces them. Are you new?
    Are you?

    Everything even close to High Elves we have now is despite Blizzards incessant need to reinvent the wheel with elves. It budges and budges, but eventually it will no more. VE were the first obvious sign they would rather create a whole type of elf than to make HE's playable, and now the normal skin tones further point to a total lack of intention of making HE's playable on their own.

    The trend is right there. But if you wanna be delusional about it so be it.

  4. #19824
    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    Fully agree it isn't surprising. It was very easy to see the intention Blizzard has had with Blood Elves. They're the uppity/pompous/'I'm better than you' posh types and thus their customizations will reflect that just as most of their /silly and /flirt do right now.

    While the servers aren't up. Wowhead has updated their Dressing Room with the new High Elf skin tones for Void Elves!! That's some proper goodness for now.

    https://www.wowhead.com/news=316788/...tones-vulpera-
    I'm checking the dressing room right now.

    It's interesting that many allied races got some options added. Like Zandalari and Vulpera eye colors, or lightforged and zandalari getting some options (tendrils/facial hair for former, jewelry types for later) split.

    Next builds will be interesting. I feel we will have a lot of minor additions for all races, including allied ones.
    Whatever...

  5. #19825
    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Coe View Post
    We don't have any version of High Elves on the Alliance. We have Void Elves. They will always be Void Elves.
    Void Elves who can look identical to High Elves, can run dungeons with humans and dwarves, and rest in Alliance capital cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    You're projecting. Ignorance would be ignoring what the developers have been saying about these new customizations coming to players in Shadowlands.

    In the end players who want their High Elves and Wildhammers are going to enjoy themselves so much they won't even notice the petty people who try and go, 'BUT ACSHULLEE'.
    Pretty much the point of the new customizations. Stop screeching over High Elves and ask for something new. We're getting them via Void Elves. It's a perfect compromise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyphael View Post
    Void Elves who can look identical to High Elves, can run dungeons with humans and dwarves, and rest in Alliance capital cities.

    Pretty much the point of the new customizations. Stop screeching over High Elves and ask for something new. We're getting them via Void Elves. It's a perfect compromise.
    A-MEN



    Looks very High Elf to me I'm satisfied! All the unique Alliance armors are now going to look sooooooooooo good on the Alliance High Elves!

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    @Allan Coe is right.

    Even tho Alliance players are getting something to play as High elves, we should still bring out the message that an Allied race will always be better for the reasons that go along with it being an Allied race, no matter what we think the odds are or how much it is just covered.

  8. #19828
    I can literally make a Kirin Tor High Elf Mage in the Dressing Room, using the Void Elf features:
    https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/dres...8lZP8tz8pWi87s

    The High Elf fanatics need to give it up. If you make something like her or like the Ranger above - then use your imagination and be creative.

  9. #19829
    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    A-MEN



    Looks very High Elf to me I'm satisfied! All the unique Alliance armors are now going to look sooooooooooo good on the Alliance High Elves!
    That does look awesome. I'm satisfied as well. It just makes sense for present day iteration of The High Elves to be a branch of Alliance-side Thalassian elves. Joke's on the hard ass Horde players who were against High Elves on the Alliance to begin with because now, we have TWO Thalassian elves on Alliance; Void, and what looks identical to High Elves. They just have Blood Elves.

    I call that a win/win.

  10. #19830
    You are aware Blood Elves are also getting the "High Elf" features right? The blue eyes and such...?

    And this makes sense since the Sunreaver forces who stood against Jaina and Vereesa also had blue eyes. It's a win/win for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    I can literally make a Kirin Tor High Elf Mage in the Dressing Room, using the Void Elf features:
    https://shadowlands.wowhead.com/dres...8lZP8tz8pWi87s

    The High Elf fanatics need to give it up. If you make something like her or like the Ranger above - then use your imagination and be creative.
    That's true, people can pick a Void elf and properly roleplay as a High elf.

    Just saying an Allied race would be better in all cases.

  12. #19832
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    You are aware Blood Elves are also getting the "High Elf" features right? The blue eyes and such...?

    And this makes sense since the Sunreaver forces who stood against Jaina and Vereesa also had blue eyes. It's a win/win for everyone.
    Then they're not Blood Elves.

  13. #19833
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    That's true, people can pick a Void elf and properly roleplay as a High elf.

    Just saying an Allied race would be better in all cases.
    This is so unlikely, it's beyond funny now. You ain't getting an allied race for this.

    We've got the two races who can now look akin to High Elves. It's time to move on and either play a blood elf with blue eyes or a void elf with blue eyes and pale skin.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Coe View Post
    Then they're not Blood Elves.
    But they are though. See here:
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunreaver_Frosthand
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunreaver_Captain
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunreaver_Summoner

    These can all be seen with blue eyes and are noted to be "Blood Elves."
    Last edited by Tanaria; 2020-07-08 at 09:30 PM.

  14. #19834
    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Coe View Post
    Yeah, I don't know what any of that gibberish means, but it's not hard to add proper High Elves.
    They're not gonna add 3 separate races that all boil down to pretty much the same thing now that these customization options are here.

    Wildhammer Dwarves are far more different from Bronzebeard Dwarves by comparison and they aren't getting their own race either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    This is so unlikely, it's beyond funny now. You ain't getting an allied race for this.

    We've got the two races who can now look akin to High Elves. It's time to move on and either play a blood elf with blue eyes or a void elf with blue eyes and pale skin.
    Yo pal tone down.

    Just saying keep the message out, just so they don't forget that there could more be done than just external aesthetics.

  16. #19836
    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    Along with access to the new violet eyes!
    Void Elves currently have that as an option on the alpha!

  17. #19837
    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
    Yo pal tone down.

    Just saying keep the message out, just so they don't forget that there could more be done than just external aesthetics.
    Or we don't bother and appreciate what Blizzard has done, for once.
    We can do that, you know...how about just accept that High Elves won't happen and you play as either a blood elf or void elf?

    Blizzard have actually given us far more options that High Elves could legit, have - such as purple hair and purple eyes. This is only for High Elves who are on the Alliance.
    Also - rather than take, take, take from Blood Elves - actually have features from Humans and Night Elves. They love to get it on with Humans and they descend from Night Elves.
    Last edited by Tanaria; 2020-07-08 at 09:34 PM.

  18. #19838
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Wildhammer Dwarves are far more different from Bronzebeard Dwarves by comparison and they aren't getting their own race either.
    No, they are not. It's the other way around. You can't be a void-infused High Elf. That makes you a Void Elf. That is literally the only distinction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    They're not gonna add 3 separate races that all boil down to pretty much the same thing now that these customization options are here.
    2 is ok, 3 is too much?

    We have two types of Draenei, two types of Orcs, two types of Night Elves, two types of High/Blood Elves, two types of Humans (3 if you count Gilneans), two types of Trolls, hell even two types of Gnomes.

    But giving High Elves their own racials, mount and heritage armor is overkill?

    Ok bye

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    But they are though. See here:
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunreaver_Frosthand
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunreaver_Captain
    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Sunreaver_Summoner

    These can all be seen with blue eyes and are noted to be "Blood Elves."
    The concept of a Blood Elf is that of a fel-corrupted High Elf with green eyes.

    You can point to a couple of ingame Elves with blue eyes that are allied with the Blood Elf forces, maybe even identify as Blood Elves. Ok. But that is still not what Blood Elves are on a conceptual level. What Blood Elves are is what Blizzard turned them into with WC3 TFT. Fel-corrupted Elves with green eyes.
    Last edited by Allan Coe; 2020-07-08 at 09:36 PM.

  19. #19839
    Ahh right, so you know nothing about Blood Elves then.

    Ahh well, we can't all hold knowledge on the most played race of the Horde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Or we don't bother and appreciate what Blizzard has done, for once.
    We can do that, you know...how about just accept that High Elves won't happen and you play as either a blood elf or void elf?
    You just assume I don't 'appreciate' the addition just because I insist on it being more complete, that's a big miss.

    And yeah I do play my Blood elf since 2009 and is staying that way because I prefer Blood elves and I prefer the Horde.

    An Allied race will always be better, is that too radical? Too 'fanatic'?

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