Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[FossilFree]

I think evolving the Alliance High Elves down a new path with Void Elves is perfectly acceptable, as it gives them many new possibilities. Now I just want the devs to capitalize on them and advance their story. I don't mean making void portals for the war effort, but rather continuing the story thread set up in 7.3 on Argus with the void Ethereals and Alleria. Plus, AR or not they are likely going to be the new favorite, so them taking the story spotlight will be inevitable at some point.

That being said, after the new skin tones I still think they should get a few more options. I don't necessarily think they need to have everything Blood Elves have, but with the Alliance High Elves intermingling with humans it would be weird if Void Elves couldn't adjust their ear size to be more half-elven. Alliance blue underwear and nail polish would be a good additional change to the new skin tones too. Also, I'd like the Entropic Embrace to look like Alleria's photo-negative version, not this shadow priest looking one we have now. Finally, I want true black hair, true white hair, and maybe a red that is a little less purple than the purplish-red they have already. I won't say no to blonde or brown shades but also won't object to their absence.

[Frenchvince]

Okay, figured it enough to basically make a mannequin head where I can drop the hairstyles!

This blonde is really beautiful and this hairstyle is not bad, I love it.

I find that the hair colors and hairstyles of KTs, especially those of women, would be perfect as a high elf option for void elves.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

This blonde is really beautiful and this hairstyle is not bad, I love it.

I find that the hair colors and hairstyles of KTs, especially those of women, would be perfect as a high elf option for void elves.

Right? I fully agree. IMO it works -giving VE and NB hairstyles/colors from their faction helps differentiate them culturally, which is pretty fitting since the difference between HE and BE is cultural/political/ideological.

I'm actually using KT colors for this! Using human since there are more options, but I do agree that KT hairstyles work better because they are made with no scalp texture. In any case, these is how VE's look with Kul Tiran hair colors done earlier.

[Aldo Hawk]

Don't see that to be the case. The devs abandoned lore restrictions on player customization. That's as far as it goes.

What?

Please be on point, High elves have been added, he was wrong, don't get lost.

Blizzard do share my viewpoint to some degree, else void elves would have never been a thing and high elves would have been the playable AR. Alas, high elves are not a separate playable race so clearly blizzard still place some importance to faction distinction.. they've obviously relaxed their rules a bit but are still standing by them to some degree.

I'm super glad that blood elves continue to remain the main high elven group in WoW, and that I can play a high elven paladin. Super super glad about it! (ps. I'm only reciprocating your smart ass tone)

Isn't this being an angry person, Strippling?

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I'd much rather dark ranger / san'layn be available as customization options, rather than waste another AR slot with an elf race.

That's your wrong opinion.

The rest of what you wrote is not worth my time replying, as you're an angry person and tend to resort to inflammatory remarks when someone does not agree with you.

Please don't try to hit and run with weak statements when you don't have any points, just escape as fast as you can without looking back!

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Valdmir Lenindor.

[Yarathir]

Right? I fully agree. IMO it works -giving VE and NB hairstyles/colors from their faction helps differentiate them culturally, which is pretty fitting since the difference between HE and BE is cultural/political/ideological.

I'm actually using KT colors for this! Using human since there are more options, but I do agree that KT hairstyles work better because they are made with no scalp texture. In any case, these is how VE's look with Kul Tiran hair colors done earlier.

Whoa, I kinda like this.

They could add these colors and then a toggle on/off for tentacles in the hair and that would make people pretty happy I think.

[Combatbutler]

No. Alleria is a High Elf with void powers.

Any Thallassian, who is constantly infused with void powers is a void elf.

[Vaedan]

Any Thallassian, who is constantly infused with void powers is a void elf.

She is also called void elf in Shadow Rising, so all discussions on that matter can end now.

[Kyriani]

Okay, figured it enough to basically make a mannequin head where I can drop the hairstyles!

OMG! I didn't know how much I needed this until now! I hope Blizzard sees this and realizes how awesome it would be!

[Vaedan]

I'd like Human hairstyles more. They can work well for a High Elf theme or a Void Elf theme imo and they make more sense to me since the High Elves and Void Elves are mostly found in Stormwind.

Here's the styles and colors I'd like to see eventually shared with Void Elves:

That is actually pretty reasonable. I think it could silence those blood elf fan that feel void elves are robbing them of something unique then. I especially love male hairstyles, female void elves already have few hairstyles decent enough for high elf fantasy.

Right now, making high elf is not that hard, even without aditional hair colors. I did my try with "silver covenant scout". I believe I could do better, but I like it so far.

[Yarathir]

Any Thallassian, who is constantly infused with void powers is a void elf.

A High/Blood Elf Shadow Priest is a Void Elf?

[Thalassian Bob]

I really love it when I see Umbrithas Voidreaver

We just need a dirty blonde hair colour and a couple of non-voidy hairstyles and I'm set!

[Combatbutler]

A High/Blood Elf Shadow Priest is a Void Elf?

Void elves do not tap into void energy, it is a part of them, hence the constant whispers. Shadow priest tap briefly into it, Alleria and those following her path go much further.

[Yarathir]

Void elves do not tap into void energy, it is a part of them, hence the constant whispers. Shadow priest tap briefly into it, Alleria and those following her path go much further.

So what is it when they go into Shadowform?

As an aside, Alleria and the blueberry elves are not the same thing. Politically, maybe, but that's another case altogether.

[Varodoc]

She's a void elf. This is confirmed in Shadows Rising's description.

[Yarathir]

She's a void elf. This is confirmed in Shadows Rising's description.

Void Elf refers to two things, though.

The political group Void Elves, of which Alleria is the leader.

And the literal race Void Elves, Blood Elves permanently altered by the void (in a manner different from Alleria) that have purple skin and tentacle hair. You'd have to be disingenuous to claim the blueberries and Alleria were biologically identical.

(also, Christie Golden once wrote Genn with a tail.)

[FlubberPuddy]

Blizzard do share my viewpoint to some degree, else void elves would have never been a thing and high elves would have been the playable AR. Alas, high elves are not a separate playable race so clearly blizzard still place some importance to faction distinction.. they've obviously relaxed their rules a bit but are still standing by them to some degree.

I'm super glad that blood elves continue to remain the main high elven group in WoW, and that I can play a high elven paladin. Super super glad about it! (ps. I'm only reciprocating your smart ass tone)

Your viewpoint previously was that Void Elves shouldn't get the same skin tones as Blood Elves because Blood Elves are the High Elves and thus for the importance of faction distinction both VE and BE should keep their skin tone choices separate.

Blizzard did not (does not) agree. They gave the literal same copy/pasted skin tones available to Blood Elves to Void Elves. No ersatz version either like Obelisk Kai kept fighting for and thinking most assuredly would happen.

Nope. VE got straight up a copy/paste of skin tones from BE. Thus your viewpoint of faction distinction and blurred lines was lost the day that happened.

It was an iconic win for High Elf requesters, so much so that many of the antagonists to the request have left this thread entirely. If you wish to be one of the few that stay to continue on pedantically over minute details be my guest.

Like I've said to others, Wildhammer Dwarves are now in by Blizzard developer's words even though it's just some additional tattoos, and the High Elf fantasy was said to be possible with High Elf skins given to Void Elves by another Blizzard developer. That possibility is now here.

Also if you're admitting you're being a smart ass then you're further making your arguments look as weak as they already were.

I think what many detractors to this request should've learned is that it's much better to spend time asking for the things you want rather than trying to deny people's wishlists as we can clearly see in this request alone all the couple years spent arguing against this request was a ton of time wasted in the end.

[Combatbutler]

So what is it when they go into Shadowform?

As an aside, Alleria and the blueberry elves are not the same thing. Politically, maybe, but that's another case altogether.

If shadow priests would permanently tap into the void, then yes they would be void elves as well, and Alleria is different from the void elves in the sense, that she is far more corrupted by the void than they are, she can just hide it better.

Alleria absorbed a fallen Naaru and ate the heart of a void demigod

[Yarathir]

If shadow priests would permanently tap into the void, then yes they would be void elves as well, and Alleria is different from the void elves in the sense, that she is far more corrupted by the void than they are, she can just hide it better.

Just saying it's important to not conflate and to also keep an eye on the fact that Void Elves are both a racial designation and a political. One can be a part of the Void Elves politically but not be one biologically. I don't know what Blizzard considers the most biologically true Void Elf, but I would assume it's the blueberry elves.

And those were a result from a (presumably) one time mishap, lead by a leader who embraces the void but isn't biologically identical to them, and will in 9.0 be joined by other members who will not have undergone the same process (unless Blizzard states that it has become a ritual) and might not have the same qualities, such as the purple skin.

[Frenchvince]

Small detail, the earrings become golden when you choose the high elf skins.

[DeicideUH]

https://www.wowhead.com/news=316803/...view-with-art-

This is another place where there was a race, High Elves, in the game which hadn't really been represented on player characters.

High elves are a race.

Blood Elves were the closest, but had felt green eyes.

Blood elves are not high elves. They had fel green eyes.

It was an opportunity where we had a number of elven races, and we could tie it back to their roots, letting players choose where they want to align and what fantasy to play out.

High elf customization for all.

We did have a lot of discussion about it, ultimately we might do more in the future, but for now we're providing the option to have a few High Elf customizations available.

So, high elf customization. End of discussion for those who insist Blizzard never said they were allowing high elves for us.

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Small detail, the earrings become golden when you choose the high elf skins.

Sounds like a bug due to reusing blood elf skins. Let's see how it evolves from there.