Ok, I'm definetly gonna make a void elf once they do something about that horrible purple goo racial. This is neat.
Ok, I'm definetly gonna make a void elf once they do something about that horrible purple goo racial. This is neat.
You said, that they could leave Horde Sin'dorei and Horde Shal'dorei as homeless as they aren't needed in the lore. So, these races should only be used for visuals and that Horde players are forced to see only Orcs, Trolls and Tauren.
What if, these plans of Alliance taking over Lordaeron, Silvermoon and Suramar are just not what Blizzard is planning now? What if, like they have already said, that a Horde vs Alliance expansion just isn't on the cards after BFA? They stated that BFA would serve as one of the last faction war based expansions for a long while...maybe, after the reception of Darnassus and Undercity, destroying racial capitals or giving them to the alternative factions is just not what they want to do?
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So I'm happy about the new options, but I'm concerned about how the blue post only acknowledged Highmountain Tauren and did not mention Void Elves for new customization in the future. I really, really hope they don't think this is enough as literally all new Void Elf options have been straight up copy pasted aside from the purple eyes, on top of the fact the race was a lazy copy paste from the beginning.
Nightborne look incredible now, they clearly put a lot of work into the new options (more than LFD imo). Disgusts me that some players have the audacity to claim Void Elves are spoiled when it took years and thousands of posts just to get simple copy pastes, when players were asking for modified models, animations, and new hairstyles to differentiate from Blood Elves from the beginning. Horde players are so tunnel visioned on copy pasted Blood Elf options that they're completely ignoring how much love Nightborne just received and pushing this narrative that Void Elves are hogging all the dev resources which is laughable.
If we receive a customization pass in the future, it'll be fine, but like I said, I'm really concerned Blizzard might actually think this is enough and just completely skip out on giving Void Elves new options. Hope I'm wrong.
Just a regular day on PTR the day after high elves are in the game playable xD
There is really some fresh air in the game. Yes yes some people will shout "customisations who cares" but there is sooo much joy suddenly, really cool!
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I've said it elswhere, but I think there's a reason VE's are only getting reused assets for now.
IMO, all the AR customizations were about to come on 10.0, and now they are fast tracking them in order: except for VE's.
Could be just because it was easier for now to just add the BE stuff they already planned on sharing, just like they did with the skins. Like it's not "brand new stuff" but it already gave VEs new options in the meantime. This helps them focus on the AR's that had gotten nothing first.
And speculating a bit, it could also have some lore reasons; as in with the new expansion Void Elves will have evolved more culturally, so perhaps things like hairstyles are linked to that aesthetic evolution. Void Elves NEED a more defined cultural aesthetic, and perhaps it will all be linked together with the narrative of next expansion.
Like we need answers on simple stuff like "can VE's recruit new members?" and if such, how would that impact their cultural aesthetics and identity? Would they delve deeper into Ethereal aesthetics, or evolve a completely new one? A huge issue with VE's is that they don't have a culture, so I'm hoping they are letting that simmer within the narrative to bring it on the forefront next expansion, and to that is what their new customizations will be linked to.
This was exactly what you wrote, there are many other posts where you also say similar things about stripping the blood elves and the nightborne of all their lore and aesthetics and not giving them anything, because the lore and the aesthetics and the development of the story must be only for the alliance
Today it was pretty chill hanging around with HE players outside the barbershop! Been loving how it has become the hangout spot for HE fans and info gets passed around.
Which reminds me! If you set your resolution to 1600x900, the barbershop chairs can be used without crashing (well, it does still crash sometimes, but for me it was like on my 6 change hehe)
Nice!! they look awesome ! Cant wait till next wee for the rest of the colors :3
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I believe that Tanaria tells the truth. you always said that the alliance should conquer suramar and silvermoon, that the few blood elves and nightborne that remained in the horde should not have any development in lore and no city. that all development and all the lore of the elves should only be given to the alliance and that the development of the horde should only be for orcs or tauren.
But tell us how is your vision of what would happen to the blood elves and the nightborne once they lose their homes? What development would they have? Whenever you talked about this, the only thing you said was "give the zulaman horde a change or create a new maghar capital somewhere" but you never said anything about the blood elves and the nightborne because the horde according to you should have the playable model but nothing more than that.
So please tell us what would be the future of the blood elves and the nightborne? I suppose that it would no longer be just that the horde has the model then what will happen to them and their story?
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The only thing Ravenmoon has said that it can be cool and beautiful and telling us to "think Castle Rathria or Nazjatar" neither of which, are Blood Elven or Nightborne. And this is only after about 3 expansions (which is roughly 12 years on average.)
It can be cool, but we need all the lore characters of the Nightborne and Sin'dorei to go Alliance, so I don't know who we've got. "You'll just get new ones" - is the likely response, but Blood Elf fans and Nightborne fans don't want new ones. Even those who'd like Kael'thas back, don't want new characters being made up.
He also talks about fel and death themes being a big thing in Sin'dorei society. No - I can't keep repeating this, but fel magic is NOT a big thing in Quel'Thalas. It wasn't during the TBC era. You could remove the Warlock class from the Blood Elves and it wouldn't make any impact on the future story of the Sin'dorei.
The High Elf exile bore fruit because of the arcane practice of draining magic out of Quel'Thalas mana-wildlife. That is what the Rangers and Priests who took exile, didn't like. They were not fussed of the few who took up to practice fel magic. (And it was a few - many just embraced arcane draining and using fire magic. Indeed, the majority of Blood Elves remained as Mages.)
Death is also something that only impacted those few Sunfury who got lost in Northrend and were then raised into the San'layn. Overall, barring Dark'han, undead Thalassians have no impact in the current Quel'Thalas society. Only Dark'han and Sylvanas did, during the TBC era. Both are now considered traitors to the Elven people.
And I don't understand his idea. It's as though night elves and high/void elves, don't get lore if Sin'dorei or Shal'dorei are getting lore. Did the Darkshore Warfront story not happen in 8.1, because the Sin'dorei heritage armor questline was also happening? No.
And the way Blizzard have wrote the High Elves - they need the Blood Elves to get story. High Elf fans won't like this, but think back to every time we've seen the High Elves in the story, post TBC. For them to be relevant relies heavily on the Blood Elves or Void Elves being part of the story. More so, the former because it gives the few High Elves a story.
And your right, I do tell the truth, even if it means the Blood Elves are not this "big number 1, race."
For example, do Blood Elves make decent Warlocks? Yes, I suppose. Are they masters of wielding fel magic? No, I'd say that goes to the Eredar and if we're talking about the playable races, then the Orcs take that slot.
Castle Rathria?? what is that?
was the warlock leader a human? I think I remember that he was.
I do not remember all the publications of ravenmoon but I do remember his desire to turn the elves of the horde into nothing more than the model and give them nothing else.
But if he now changes his mind I would like to know what he thinks about how the development of the blood elves and the nightborne should be
Sorry, ridiculous auto-correct, I meant to say "Castle Nathria." The Venthyr raid.
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Yes - the most famous Warlock (shock, horror) goes between an Orc (Gul'dan) and a Human (Kanrethad.)
I remember what Ravenmoon has said and basically, Blood Elves are all things "fel" and "death" because "dats so cool guys!" Fel and Death have only come together in 1 instance and that was with the Orcs in the Second War, when the first death knights were raised by the Orc Warlocks. Aside from that, the two areas have been kept apart.
And he won't tell us what Blizzard should do. Only that we can have something that look beautiful and nice, but it comes 2-3 expansions after the next one. (so, it's about 12-14 years.) We need to think of Castle Nathria or Nazjatar, but it can't be Silvermoon or Suramar - we just can't have those anymore. (I mean, it's not like Blizzard are in a rush to repeat Darnassus or Undercity again - not with the horrible messages, that Christie Golden and other employees received. I don't like their writing style, but you are a scummy person if you send threats like that. I know emotions were running high with Darnassus - but that isn't the Blood Elf fans' problem.)
Blizzard have also said that they are not doing another Horde vs Alliance expansion. I mean, it's not only the Horde Elves that he wants out of their rightful homes. Horde Forsaken should go to Icecrown and have "Minas Morgul-like" themes and Highmountain Tauren should move to Stonetalon Mountains, because the Broken Isles should be entirely Alliance.
So Alliance get the whole of the Eastern Kingdoms, all the Broken Isles, Kul'Tiras and good portions of Western Kalimdor.
Horde get a few zones in Eastern Kalimdor, a location or two around Northrend and Zandalar. Oh - we might get Pandaria - because Horde fans go nuts for the Panda People, amiright?
I just ignore anything about Kezan, because the land is inhabitable since Deathwing and the Volcano. Goblins are just a background race, like Gnomes.
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