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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    It also had its AOE, movement and survivability nerfed to the ground though. It's a rather pointless spec at this point.
    You never really Drain Soul much while you're killing trash in keys anyways, so no not really. Drain Soul just allows you to be lazy and not move from shit. Ie. this is why you let Warlocks deal with the red add on Mythic Kingaroth. The spec will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    It also had its AOE, movement and survivability nerfed to the ground though. It's a rather pointless spec at this point.
    I don't see how it's going to be any less mobile? Burning Rush will still be a talent, and so is Nightfall. The fact that Nightfall works with Corruption and not Agony makes it even more busted.

    Like a 3 target council fight.

    http://bfa.wowhead.com/talent-calc/w...ffliction/cHtM

    I hope that sims the best cause that looks fun to play.
    Last edited by muto; 2018-04-09 at 12:22 PM.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by muto View Post
    You never really Drain Soul much while you're killing trash in keys anyways, so no not really. Drain Soul just allows you to be lazy and not move from shit. Ie. this is why you let Warlocks deal with the red add on Mythic Kingaroth. The spec will be fine.

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    I don't see how it's going to be any less mobile? Burning Rush will still be a talent, and so is Nightfall. The fact that Nightfall works with Corruption and not Agony makes it even more busted.

    Like a 3 target council fight.

    http://bfa.wowhead.com/talent-calc/w...ffliction/cHtM

    I hope that sims the best cause that looks fun to play.
    Well, you're not playing affli in dungeons anymore with thier AOE being nerfed to the ground.
    It's also not at all fun to play and you won't be running SE on anything above 2 targets and even that is hard to pull off befor you get way more haste.

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    Really veering off topic with this ish about how Affliction plays vs live and there are plenty of other threads for that discussion.

    Shadow Bolt is long overdue for either an animation redesign, or a reversion to its original vanilla animation which is mostly still used by even newly added npcs because it is superior to that goofy animation it got in late Cata. I do hope to see it updated, but have it draw inspiration from its original animation.

    Anyway to fix some misinformation in this thread:

    • Shadow Bolt's animation was updated in 4.3
    • Rain of Fire was updated in 3.1
    • Soulfire was updated in 3.0 and later 5.0
    • Incinerate was updated in 6.0

    All our animations are dated compared to other casters, but at least Destro is getting a full animation makeover. I do imagine they'll continue with the other two specs as well.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Kanariya View Post
    Really veering off topic with this ish about how Affliction plays vs live and there are plenty of other threads for that discussion.

    Shadow Bolt is long overdue for either an animation redesign, or a reversion to its original vanilla animation which is mostly still used by even newly added npcs because it is superior to that goofy animation it got in late Cata. I do hope to see it updated, but have it draw inspiration from its original animation.

    Anyway to fix some misinformation in this thread:

    • Shadow Bolt's animation was updated in 4.3
    • Rain of Fire was updated in 3.1
    • Soulfire was updated in 3.0 and later 5.0
    • Incinerate was updated in 6.0

    All our animations are dated compared to other casters, but at least Destro is getting a full animation makeover. I do imagine they'll continue with the other two specs as well.
    Don't forget that every caster except Warlocks animations were updated in Legion...Warlock was the only one to get left out...they even slightly improved DK stuff before Warlocks.
    It's like Blizzard telling me I can't have a steak because there aren't enough cows left, but then tell me I can have as many hamburgers as I could possibly eat. That is exactly their logic with Void Elves which literally leaves no excuse as to why there can't be High Elves.

    https://youtu.be/C2Sr-sadSk4 - Check it out, it's enlightening.

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    I did make note of that (though I should have been more clear) in the last sentence about our animations being dated. All other casters got an update, and Fire had its core spells updated twice this expansion. Aff and Demo are really overdue.

  6. #46
    Has anybody tried completing the green fire quest in alpha?
    I'm curious if Demonbolt becomes green if you've completed the quest...

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshraxa View Post
    Has anybody tried completing the green fire quest in alpha?
    I'm curious if Demonbolt becomes green if you've completed the quest...
    Found the answer myself: Farmed the tome on Alpha, completed the quest.

    Results:
    Dreadsteed and Burning rush is the proper green color.
    Demonbolt is not green.
    Incinerate, immolate and Rain of Fire reverts to the old casting animations, but are green.

    Chaos Bolt retains the new casting animation, which makes sense - it's green.
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshraxa View Post
    Found the answer myself: Farmed the tome on Alpha, completed the quest.

    Results:
    Dreadsteed and Burning rush is the proper green color.
    Demonbolt is not green.
    Incinerate, immolate and Rain of Fire reverts to the old casting animations, but are green.

    Chaos Bolt retains the new casting animation, which makes sense - it's green.
    Demonbolt has never been updated for green fire and as far as I am aware Demonbolt still has not been updated in animation at all.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    It's not like anyone will play the current affliction so why bother?
    Might as well put all the effort into the specs that actually work.
    What does burning rush, dark pact, unending resolve, demonic circle and demonic gateway count as then if not survival/ movement abilities? Plus baseline shadowfury. I love the amount of afflocks crying because they don't have the most overpowered sustain ability in the game anymore and they actually can't ignore most mechanics anymore, well boo-hoo

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrece View Post
    Demonbolt has never been updated for green fire and as far as I am aware Demonbolt still has not been updated in animation at all.
    I'm like 99% sure that Demonbolt on alpha is just using Pyroblast's animation. It even has the hadouken-style cast finish that none of our other spells have because the new animations haven't been hooked up yet.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by bio347 View Post
    I'm like 99% sure that Demonbolt on alpha is just using Pyroblast's animation. It even has the hadouken-style cast finish that none of our other spells have because the new animations haven't been hooked up yet.
    Yeah, but I mean the traditional demonbolt. The alpha animation is basically the old soulfire animation. They slashed soulfire but havent replaced the animation for demonbolt, which at least hints that they'll probably update these spells.

    Hopefully they don't forget green fire considering that when they updated our fire effects on handcasting animations orange fire got updated textures but green fire remained old.

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucrece View Post
    Yeah, but I mean the traditional demonbolt. The alpha animation is basically the old soulfire animation. They slashed soulfire but havent replaced the animation for demonbolt, which at least hints that they'll probably update these spells.

    Hopefully they don't forget green fire considering that when they updated our fire effects on handcasting animations orange fire got updated textures but green fire remained old.
    I'm hoping so...asked for green fire for Demonbolt since Legion launched and it never came
    It's like Blizzard telling me I can't have a steak because there aren't enough cows left, but then tell me I can have as many hamburgers as I could possibly eat. That is exactly their logic with Void Elves which literally leaves no excuse as to why there can't be High Elves.

    https://youtu.be/C2Sr-sadSk4 - Check it out, it's enlightening.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by valcrist View Post
    I keep expecting more animations and our over due casting animations as well, we got some at the start of alpha and nothing for awhile. I really hope that isn’t it, we already got major shafted when it comes to getting our animations way way way freaking later.
    It's not. They're still in alpha. We saw animations added/changed in the beta phase of Legion. I know at least Flamestrike had a *completely* different original redesign (which didn't look bad either).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crayola Memes View Post
    Is there a video of that animation they put in during that earlier alpha build?
    no because hes wrong.
    it got a new animation awhile back, the current animation is that one, but no new update has popped up yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    no because hes wrong.
    it got a new animation awhile back, the current animation is that one, but no new update has popped up yet.
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    Thanks for clarifying. I'm hoping they add the new animation when beta comes out.

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