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    Herald of the Titans Galbrei's Avatar
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    I'm here dieing for a good blood/iron relic and yet the last 3 chests gave me shadow relics... the last one reducing my Evasion CD. Why the fuck is this even a trait for rogues?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khas View Post
    I remember back in the day there was a similar topic about this. Question was wheter loot specialisation affects weekly chest. If my memory serves me, some people were saying that assassination loot spec favors haste gear, sub is versatility and outlaw is mastery or other way around. I have no idea if that is true or not. Maybe its really RNG playing games on us
    It's odd, but my experience is exactly the same. When I want a certain stat I just switch my loot specialization to a spec for which that stat is suboptimal and I usually get it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omeomorfismo View Post
    i dont know, never experienced dps losses with 2 or 3 mass. how much crit you have from gear?
    32% and then 37% with eoc on target.

    I havnt checked sims in a while(playing has slowed down), but last time checked up on relics, 2nd master ass was a loss with certain combinations and neutral with others, and third was a large increase. That was before balanced blades was buffed through the roof

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    Sim default is for 600 seconds. The only fight in Antorus that lasts longer than that is Argus. No other fight really gets close to that full 10 minutes. Have to check your raid's average kill time to determine the right sim time. This might be worth some time comparing your sim on different times to determine which is better.

    Obviously MA x3 will always be a bit stronger on those very long fights.

    Obviously there are some times in which Mass x3 is best because that is what the sim shows with default settings. But there are some times in which it will not give you an extra cast or a full-length last cast. For all-around I think balanced blades might be better since it's not like you can just swap your relics around depending on the fight.

    There are also some fights like Imonar where if the timings are funny one way or another you will have downtime where vendetta can be cast but you are still in bridge phase. I you manage to get it timed perfectly you will be running on the bridge while vendetta is on CD.

    I was thinking about this in particular around Kin'goroth since I want to bump up to an orange parse on it. It appears most people doing well pool to ensure that they always have vendetta up. I have tried it both ways, though mistakes on the correct approach limited how much I did. We just got our second Argus kill after a long extension and then like ~3 weeks of trying to get a rekill so I have not had that much time to try to improve my parses.

    Since I have not run a bunch of different times yet I am just going to guess that balanced blades 2x Mass 1x 3x Malchemist will be a more consistent performer with the diversity of kill times. Doesn't probably matter enough unless you are just gunning for all orange parses but it's interesting to think about nonetheless.

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    This is why I literally don't do anything in the game anymore. It's just RNGcraft.

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    Doesn't the loot that comes from the weekly chest come from whatever the mythic + dungeons you completed that week? I'm not sure myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elfporn View Post
    32% and then 37% with eoc on target.

    I havnt checked sims in a while(playing has slowed down), but last time checked up on relics, 2nd master ass was a loss with certain combinations and neutral with others, and third was a large increase. That was before balanced blades was buffed through the roof
    Never did quite understand that. Do you mean it's a dps loss compared to an optimal setup, or just a dps loss no matter what? Seems counter-intuitive to me that if i'm replacing a purely defensive trait (to take an extreme example) with a second MA (i.e. 4 extra seconds off the Vendetta cd) that that should result in an actual dps loss, as opposed to simply an insignificant dps gain.

    As always, looking forward to being enlightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blayke View Post
    Never did quite understand that. Do you mean it's a dps loss compared to an optimal setup, or just a dps loss no matter what? Seems counter-intuitive to me that if i'm replacing a purely defensive trait (to take an extreme example) with a second MA (i.e. 4 extra seconds off the Vendetta cd) that that should result in an actual dps loss, as opposed to simply an insignificant dps gain.

    As always, looking forward to being enlightened.
    it was a dps loss as compared to other dps traits. it was some weird math that had to do with 6+4+4 being a much larger dps increase over 6+4. 8 additional seconds of cd reduction was stronger proportionally than 4 seconds(vs the cd). It mathed out that you should either use 1x master ass relic or 3x, and 2x was dps neutral or a loss as compared to other traits.

    Took me a while to wrap my mind around it for some reason. Thankfully, energy gen now is such that master ass relics are less essential (when using boots) than they used to be. Not to mention the huge buffs we got in response to the PK thing that helped shift relic priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phookah View Post
    Doesn't the loot that comes from the weekly chest come from whatever the mythic + dungeons you completed that week? I'm not sure myself.
    No. It comes from any dungeon and raid, world bosses and some world quest pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ymirsson View Post
    No. It comes from any dungeon and raid, world bosses and some world quest pieces.
    You can’t get raid gear from the cache, but it can contain any loot you can use from any Legion dungeon, including Violet Hold.

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