Syria Sarin Gas Attack - 100+ Casualties

[Mavett]

Why in gods name would Assad use CW's?
He is by any and all measures completely and totally winning - Resistance is literally months away from collapsing.

Because months of fighting with dug in opponent in an urban environment is hundreds if not thousands Syrian/their allies deaths, gasses that are used are heavier than air and will descend and clear out the enemy more effectively than conventional means.

[downnola]

Many dead, including women and children, in mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria. Area of atrocity is in lockdown and encircled by Syrian Army, making it completely inaccessible to outside world. President Putin, Russia and Iran are responsible for backing Animal Assad. Big price to pay. Open area immediately for medical help and verification. Another humanitarian disaster for no reason whatsoever. SICK!

MFW the neo-cons got to Trump and now he's going to MSGA.

[Deleted]

Because months of fighting with dug in opponent in an urban environment is hundreds if not thousands Syrian/their allies deaths, gasses that are used are heavier than air and will descend and clear out the enemy more effectively than conventional means.

and the clearly logical reason that it will force a surrender, why lose more men when there are bigger fights to come in idlib.
also the people of Damascus are tired of being shelled from there so are happy with anything goes.

There is a thread that @Skandulous already posted about the deal


Important: Here's how the Russian brokered deal to evacuate #Douma involving #SAA & Jaysh al Islam (JAI) went sour, paving the way for a widespread military operation today in the last trapped rebel enclave in East #Ghouta
1. Yesterday the Russian negotiator & Jaysh al Islam agreed on several points & a deal was made pending final confirmation which would see weapons handed over, some militants taken to #Jarablus & others to stay
2. Then when the meeting occurred (Yesterday) to formalize the arrangement’s Jaysh al-Islam withdrew from some of the agreed points & were given a time-frame to respond to
3. Jaysh al Islam changed their negotiator for the meeting replacing Abo Ammar Dalwan (Head of JAI’s political office) to Abo Qusay al-Deirani assistant to the head of JAI & security official.
4. One of the reasons for JAI’s withdrawal from the negotiations at end of the meeting was due to issues over giving over heavy weapons, preferring to only give it over till a wider political solution is made, in Syria in terms of those wanting to stay in #Douma
5. The idea was those whose wanting to stay could stay and become an auxiliary force to the #SAA fighting #Nusra & #ISIS or guarding #Douma as a local police force
6. Those who wanted to leave would be taken to #Jarablus in Aleppo which is held by Turkish backed Euphrates Shield
7. The agreement was that JAI gives over its heavy weapons only at the start of the process and the #SAA withdraws its heavy weapons from around #Douma in a de-escalation phase
8 .JAI asked the Russians If they could guarantee whether the #SAA would withdraw their heavy weapons to which the Russians replied we can guarantee that warplanes won’t be used & some heavy weapons would be withdrawn accordingly
9. Heavy weapons would be handed over to #SAA with Russian military police observing the whole process over a period of three days
10. Then over a period of 1 week, JAI handover its light and medium weapons, and the #SAA withdraws its fighting units from the area
11. Those who hand over their weapons can enter a reconciliation agreement & apply for joining the police force over a 2 week period and thus guard their area with #Russia being the guarantor
12. A fighting brigade of JAI remnants would also be created allowing those to fight alongside #SAA against extremist groups elsewhere
13. The new brigade & Police force made up of JAI remnants are given weapons and support by the Russians
14. Russian military police was meant to be present at the checkpoints and the area to guarantee all of this
15. After weapons are handed over to #SAA a committee from the Damascus C.S governorate comes into #Douma and attempts to solve all of the issues the city is suffering from – services – water ect.
16. All civilians set to return to their homes, those in #Douma facing military service would be given a temporary amnesty
17. #SAA and security forces won’t enter the city, then the pro government captives get handed back over to the #SAA through the Russians
18. Russians left meeting stating that they are awaiting a written response from JAI by 8.00 PM affirming that the handing over of weapons is compulsory for any deal to continue
19. After that the negotiations stopped and a response never came, and since the afternoon today all hell has been breaking loose in #Douma with heavy fighting and shelling, in both #Douma & #Damascus
20. Negotiations set to continue within 2 hours between JAI & #Russia as front-lines in #Douma go through a temporary ceasefire
21. Syrian State T.V reporting that Jaysh al-Islam requested the meeting, sides set to meet over next couple of hours, watch this space
22. In the lead up to 8.00 this morning when the #SAA paused operations, the shelling & bombardment on #Douma was among the fiercest so far, hundreds of strikes. Parting Shot before negotiations?
23. Syrian MOD source states that any negotiations are directly done by #SAA & they have final say, possibly a reference to the increased coverage the Russians are getting over #Douma negotiations role
24. Meeting over #Douma has just taken place between #Russia #SAA & JAI
25. Breaking - JAI has returned to #Douma to gather a list of all #SAA civilian & military captives to hand to #SAA
26. List of names of captives held in #Douma set to be given to #SAA by JAI as prerequisite for larger talks to define fate of the enclave
27. First group of captives from governments side held in #Douma set to be released at some point this evening as wider agreement is reached, ceasfire in effect for time being.
28. Breaking: Agreement reached in #Douma
29. All captives to be handed over to #SAA & entirety of Jaysh al Islam will head to #Jarablus in #Aleppo
30. Within 48 hours the deal should be completed, which draws to a close the Russian backed #SAA operation to retake the whole of Eastern #Ghouta
31. Buses enter #Douma just now to start process of taking JAI to #Jarablus under terms of agreement
32. 100+ buses have entered #Douma so far
33. First group of captives held in #Douma have been handed over to #SAA, thousands of families waiting at the corridor for more to arrive
34. A total of 48,000 people will leave #Douma, that's 8,000 JAI fighters & members with 40,000 civilians including fighters familes. Huge!

[Sylvestra]

Western citizens fall for war propaganda so easily. Like people never learn from previous lies...

[Deleted]

MFW the neo-cons got to Trump and now he's going to MSGA.

Trump today: "Assad's an animal for killing women and children."
Trump last week to CIA: "Why didn't we kill women & children in that drone strike?"


The french are in a position to strike assad and are taking this to the UNSC

[Deleted]

Because months of fighting with dug in opponent in an urban environment is hundreds if not thousands Syrian/their allies deaths, gasses that are used are heavier than air and will descend and clear out the enemy more effectively than conventional means.

This is true - But large scale strategic bombardment will not provoke the US to intervene, the only entity that could alter the facts on the ground to any meaningful degree.

[Deleted]

False flag, it's not even subtle in timing.

[Independent voter]

Why in gods name would Assad use CW's?
He is by any and all measures completely and totally winning - Resistance is literally months away from collapsing.

Cities are famously hard to take, especially those in Syria that are 99% concrete. If you bomb them it just makes rubble and rubble is even easier to defend.

Nerve agent gets around that, it disperses through the rubble and kills.

Assad, a Shiite from the Alawite who are Shiites, doesn't care about Syrian Sunni casualties.

For his buddy Putin Assad drove Syrian Sunni refugees into Europe like cattle.

[Allybeboba]

Donald Trump's red line moment has arrived.

We launched some TLAMs at about this time last year after a gas attack as a “deterrent” against another one.

OFP

[Super Kami Dende]

At this point I think everyone should just withdraw from Syria. Let themselves sort themselves out. then just deal with whatever remnants are left afterwards.

[Deleted]

At this point I think everyone should just withdraw from Syria. Let themselves sort themselves out. then just deal with whatever remnants are left afterwards.

But then there would be no war. Because contrary to what western media says, most of those "rebels" aren't from Syria. If US stops funding those nutjobs, they might get upset and fly few more planes into buildings.

[Deleted]

Cities are famously hard to take, especially those in Syria that are 99% concrete. If you bomb them it just makes rubble and rubble is even easier to defend.

Nerve agent gets around that, it disperses through the rubble and kills.

You say that as if indiscriminate bombing and starvation isn't the primary tactic already?

[Ripster42]

MFW the neo-cons got to Trump and now he's going to MSGA.

At least john bolton is there to keep the president calm...

So anyway, about that war we're having next month.

I really, really hope I'm joking.

[Elba]

Why in gods name would Assad use CW's?
He is by any and all measures completely and totally winning - Resistance is literally months away from collapsing.

Because he is pure evil?

[Deleted]

Apparently Assad doesn't like winning the war and US pulling out so he again chem attacks just when terrorist forces are about to loose another region, he must save them in time from himself!

You have to be totally brain dead to believe Assad is behind this.

[Deleted]

Because he is pure evil?

Sure - The question is whether or not he is rational though.

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Apparently Assad doesn't like winning the war and US pulling out so he again chem attacks just when terrorist forces are about to loose another region, he must save them in time from himself!

You have to be totally brain dead to believe Assad is behind this.

Now now, to be fair, you could also believe that Assad is brain-dead, either or.

[Deleted]

Now now, to be fair, you could also believe that Assad is brain-dead, either or.

Have you seen his interviews? Guy is intelligent.

Guy may be ruthless, but stupid? No.

[Skandulous]

Cities are famously hard to take, especially those in Syria that are 99% concrete. If you bomb them it just makes rubble and rubble is even easier to defend.

Nerve agent gets around that, it disperses through the rubble and kills.

Assad, a Shiite from the Alawite who are Shiites, doesn't care about Syrian Sunni casualties.

For his buddy Putin Assad drove Syrian Sunni refugees into Europe like cattle.

You do know the majority of Soldiers in the Syrian Arab Army are Sunni right?

[Kuntantee]

real ones being used on civilians!

That's what Western media claims. Surely it must be true

[Skandulous]

Because he is pure evil?

Pure evil Western educated Eye doctor