Will $500+ graphics cards kill off PC gaming for good?

[Coldkil]

Also, if 11xx / 20xx depending on the name isn't a big enough jump ahead it may just be as good as buying an (hopefully) smaller priced 1080ti and just go with it for years to come. until you play 4k or 144hz you dont need the top notch of the cards

[Deleted]

Also, if 11xx / 20xx depending on the name isn't a big enough jump ahead it may just be as good as buying an (hopefully) smaller priced 1080ti and just go with it for years to come. until you play 4k or 144hz you dont need the top notch of the cards

Or you know, just lower certain settings that do very little for the performance hit they bring.

[Twoddle]

Or you know, just lower certain settings that do very little for the performance hit they bring.

Or play games that don't require a graphics card at all and play on integrated and turn the settings down.

[Deleted]

you don't need a $500 card to play games.. so no

[Deleted]

Or play games that don't require a graphics card at all and play on integrated and turn the settings down.

This quote is cute, I wonder how much time you spend in options settings in games and actually try them out, mean most people don't even know what render scale is in WoW.

[Spicymemer]

Why would you think a $500 card would kill PC gaming? people have been buying overpriced 1060/1070/1080's for months...

Sounds like a console kid is trying to scare up a thread.

[Vash The Stampede]

Why would you think a $500 card would kill PC gaming? people have been buying overpriced 1060/1070/1080's for months...

Sounds like a console kid is trying to scare up a thread.

People buy those cards but they are probably a fraction of the consumers who buy cards for gaming. There's probably a bunch of people waiting to buy cards once the prices have reached what they consider acceptable.

I would think the inflation of graphic card prices are doing a lot of damage as people will look into console gaming if these prices keep going up. PC gaming used to be competitive to console gaming cause the hardware was so cheap. Keyword here is WAS.

[Shinzai]

Again, I'll just reiterate that the new cards will be above current GTX 1080 levels for the 1170 and potentially the 1160 upwards. With that level of power becoming standard, PC graphics cards will momentarily overtake current graphical standards.

For 95% of the gaming population, the 1170 and potentially 1150/1160 will be overkill for the norm of 1920x1080 60fps gaming.

The 11 range is going to make GTX 1080 performance a standard, not the exception. We've hit a tipping point where graphics will be expanded in new ways ; ie Ray Tracing and such, just to avoid a stagnation of sales. The average gamer and consumer just wants to play Fortnite at 60fps and that's easily done on an existing 1060.

These new cards offer existing casual players literally nothing new. That's why this is all hyperbole and a bunk argument to begin with.

[Spicymemer]

People buy those cards but they are probably a fraction of the consumers who buy cards for gaming. There's probably a bunch of people waiting to buy cards once the prices have reached what they consider acceptable.

I would think the inflation of graphic card prices are doing a lot of damage as people will look into console gaming if these prices keep going up. PC gaming used to be competitive to console gaming cause the hardware was so cheap. Keyword here is WAS.

No PC gamer resorts to console peasant tier just because a few PC components became very expensive for a while.

Most people upgrade their PC every 3-5 years or only upgrade their video card.

If they're the kind of people to upgrade every 1 or 2 years, then money isnt something they worry about anyway.

You're an idiot.

Infracted. Disagree without the insults. - Cilraaz

[Vash The Stampede]

No PC gamer resorts to console peasant tier just because a few PC components became very expensive for a while.

Most people upgrade their PC every 3-5 years or only upgrade their video card.

If they're the kind of people to upgrade every 1 or 2 years, then money isnt something they worry about anyway.

You're an idiot.

That's what people thought until the Xbox 360 and PS3 were released where they offered nearly high end PC graphics for cheap, at the time. That damn near killed the PC gaming market. With high memory and GPU prices, the Xbox One X is looking to be a pretty good alternative over PC gaming. The good news is that PC games are generally console ports, so if your PC could play games in 2013 when the Xbox One was released, chances are it can play games today just as well. The problem is when these prices persist around the release of the Xbox Two and PS5. 2006 could happen all over again.

One of the common complaints of the Xbox One and PS4 was the relatively week GPU's that were put in them. Despite having the equivalent of a Radeon HD 7850, these machines normally performed around a AMD Radeon HD 7770. Remember Crysis in 2007? How much was a good graphics card in 2006-2008? A Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTX was $599, before it dropped to $400. The 8800 Ultra was nearly $1000 and dropped to $800 before being discontinued. All Crysis needed was a GeForce 6800 GT, but nobody was buying this shit because people had jumped onto the $400 Xbox 360.

With Sony looking into Ryzen, you can bet that both Sony and Microsoft won't make that mistake twice. Those machines will have good CPU's with high end GPU's stuck into them for $500. They won't make that mistake twice. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

[m4xc4v413r4]

I don't know where you're getting the information from about games being made for the high-end gfx cards when they're not at all.

The vast majority of games are made for the mid-end cards, usually (and using the current gen of nvidia just for the example) for the 1050-1060 range at the most common resolution which is still 1080p whether some people like it or not.

Knowing this, the entire thread discussion is irrelevant.

[Dreadlack]

Asking if it will kill off PC gaming has to be a joke? Of course it won't. The platform is constantly evolving and with the surge in VR development and products, end-game cards are more attractive than ever.

However, I do think it's a sad state that the card prices are being increased because they're used to mine, and thus a larger segment of consumers are cut off from purchasing due to their budget. If everybody had access to great cards, game devs could push graphics so much more without the risk of alienating any potential buyers of their products.

Does this harm PC-gaming? Doubtful.
But it does, however, put a dampener on how fast and steep game devs are willing to improve the GFX of upcoming AAA titles. Take a game like the next Elder Scrolls, I'd love for Bethesda to be able to dial the requirements up a lot and make the world feel so much more alive and pretty, but if a large part of their playerbase can't handle it? Probably will not be the next "Crysis"

[Grym]

Is $500 a card even expensive?

In UK, a 1080 card would be closer to £600 (around $820) and that is pretty standard.

[Deleted]

Is $500 a card even expensive?

In UK, a 1080 card would be closer to £600 (around $820) and that is pretty standard.

1070ti's for just over £400 at the moment, admittedly you'd need to hybrid/water them to get stable clocks, but a lot better than it was a month or so ago

[Vash The Stampede]

Is $500 a card even expensive?

In UK, a 1080 card would be closer to £600 (around $820) and that is pretty standard.

For most people the idea of dropping that much money on a single computer part would probably be a put off in their budget. The average annual income in the UK is £27,600. Remember average, which means that some people are even bellow that. In the US it's about $31,099 for personal income. Something like $500 or £600 is not a drop in the bucket.

[Kagthul]

You guys realize that people rocking 1070s and higher make up a relatively miniscule portion of PC gamers, right? Like.. sub 10%, if it is even that high.

The reality is most people game on low to mid-range settings, with middling hardware.

[Pum]

bitch i've been gaming on this current PC for 11 years, see ya later honey

[breadisfunny]

Also, if 11xx / 20xx depending on the name isn't a big enough jump ahead it may just be as good as buying an (hopefully) smaller priced 1080ti and just go with it for years to come. until you play 4k or 144hz you dont need the top notch of the cards

pretty sure they announced it as the 11xx line a month or two ago....

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You guys realize that people rocking 1070s and higher make up a relatively miniscule portion of PC gamers, right? Like.. sub 10%, if it is even that high.

The reality is most people game on low to mid-range settings, with middling hardware.

problem is that even the lower end cards are being affected by this.

[Vash The Stampede]

You guys realize that people rocking 1070s and higher make up a relatively miniscule portion of PC gamers, right? Like.. sub 10%, if it is even that high.

The reality is most people game on low to mid-range settings, with middling hardware.

Thanks to the power of denial, every PC gamer is an enthusiast PC gamer. Remember when people were put off because a good gaming PC cost $1000-$2000? At least according to enthusiasts.

[MatthewOU2015]

I think so. As graphics card prices so up and wages stay the same, gamers are going to be faced with the choice of either downgrading or moving to consoles. If the 1170 is $500 that means the 1160 will be around $350-$400 which is way over the budget of many gamers. You'll still have people with disposable income buying the 1170+ but the rest of us will suffer. Either AMD needs to undercut (which they won't) or PC gaming is doomed.


Previous generation cards can only hang around for so long.