Coolest De-Extinction Candidate

[Techno-Druid]

You can't just inject a bunch of species and expect things to be balanced instantly.

Nobody is talking about introducing random species, but a ressurected extinct species that was a part of the current ecosystem of New Zealand.

Why do you think invasive species are so bad? because it becomes an escalating situation. You need to keep bring in difference species to control the once before which then kills of current local species.

This wouldn't just be reintroducing an animal for fun, but an effort to restore an incomplete ecosystem that was made incomplete by humans. Haast's eagle, the moa, the adzebill and the laughing owl were all made extinct by humans and if humans had never colonized New Zealand, they would still be around.

In regards to the local species, the eagles themselves are a local species.

[Independent voter]

Lucy, I don't know if she's our direct ancestor or off on her own branch of the Tree of Life.

[Deleted]

Because it'd be funny to see Creationists deal with other species of humans.

Just let them watch Jersey Shore.

[Ghostpanther]

Lucy, I don't know if she's our direct ancestor or off on her own branch of the Tree of Life.

She was just another chimp species.

[Altrec]

I say bring back the Dodo. I hear they tasted good
Anything we bring back should serve multiple purposes including being a food source.

[Drusin]

Oh? NZ has a deer population problem?

Sounds like they need to import some Americans to go huntin

[Orange Joe]

Nobody is talking about introducing random species, but a ressurected extinct species that was a part of the current ecosystem of New Zealand.

This wouldn't just be reintroducing an animal for fun, but an effort to restore an incomplete ecosystem that was made incomplete by humans. Haast's eagle, the moa, the adzebill and the laughing owl were all made extinct by humans and if humans had never colonized New Zealand, they would still be around.

In regards to the local species, the eagles themselves are a local species.

The current ecosystem has already replaced those species. Adding them back would be the same as adding an invasive species.

[Techno-Druid]

The current ecosystem has already replaced those species. Adding them back would be the same as adding an invasive species.

And what species has taken the ecological role of the Haast's eagle?

[Orange Joe]

And what species has taken the ecological role of the Haast's eagle?

What would they prey on now?

[Techno-Druid]

What would they prey on now?

Large terrestrial animals, which could and probably should include the moa, another candidate for deextinction. As New Zealand (and other geographically isolated regions that bore the brunt of human colonization) stands, it's ecosystems are fractions of what they once were and it's because of human overhunting. We think they're complete because we've grown up seeing nothing but those fragments. Like an unfinished puzzle where pieces have been thrown away.

[Queen of Hamsters]

If you ain't talking Dodos, I ain't gon' listen!!!!

WE.NEED.DODOS!!

[Azadina]

I want sabertooth cats back!

[Orange Joe]

Large terrestrial animals, which could and probably should include the moa, another candidate for deextinction. As New Zealand (and other geographically isolated regions that bore the brunt of human colonization) stands, it's ecosystems are fractions of what they once were and it's because of human overhunting. We think they're complete because we've grown up seeing nothing but those fragments. Like an unfinished puzzle where pieces have been thrown away.

Which would then put competition on the current species that eat them. Any any you bring in create more competition for other animal.

They may be fractions of what they were but they are balanced around what they have now. Throwing in something that hasn't been there for hundreds of years is like throwing a wrench in the spokes of a bike.

[Techno-Druid]

Which would then put competition on the current species that eat them. Any any you bring in create more competition for other animal.

That's the thing though, nothing eat thems, because they're mostly invasive. It would essentially be a positive form of rewilding where a native predatory species reduces the population of invasive species to a manageable level like with dingoes being reintroduced to parts of Australia strongly correlating with the decline of invasive cats and foxes.

[Deleted]

bring back neanderthal man, just one bloke, we can call him christopher, put him in a zoo and kids can throw peanuts at him

[SavoirFaire]

Can we all agree that invasive species are bad and stick to what would be cool to see again?

I’ll go with those giant dragonflies. Sure, they’d get re-extincted pretty fast, but I’d make a killing with my new flamethrower business!

[Kaeth]

10,000 is barely an evolutionary blink of an eye, much less a measly size centuries.

We're not talking about evolutionary changes. This is about ecology; ecosystems can change greatly in mere decades. Sorry, your idea is horrible.

How is the predator in question foreign again?

It hasn't existed in the region for 600+ years. The local ecosystem has moved on.

[Techno-Druid]

We're not talking about evolutionary changes. This is about ecology; ecosystems can change greatly in mere decades. Sorry, your idea is horrible.


It hasn't existed in the region for 600+ years. The local ecosystem has moved on.

Tell that to the wolves of Yellowstone, who were wiped out and brought back years later, causing profound ecological changes that benefited every member of the food chain, what is called a trophic cascade.

[Orange Joe]

Tell that to the wolves of Yellowstone, who were wiped out and brought back years later, causing profound ecological changes that benefited every member of the food chain, what is called a trophic cascade.

? Wolfs in Yellowstone was only about a 50 year gap from being hunted out to reintroduced. Your talking about animals that have been gone many hundreds of years.

[Techno-Druid]

? Wolfs in Yellowstone was only about a 50 year gap from being hunted out to reintroduced. Your talking about animals that have been gone many hundreds of years.

Centuries is nothing in evolutionary time. 600 years or even a few thousand years ago we were still in the Holocene. Hell, muskox were extinct in Northern Eurasia for over a thousand years, only to be reintroduced to Scandinavia and Siberia, where they rebound and became reestablished in the ecosystem. Because muskox evolved alongside species like wolves, brown bears, reindeer and tundra foliage, just like how the Haast's eagle and moa evolved alongside kiwis, kakapos and every single endemic plant and animal species in New Zealand.