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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    10,000 is barely an evolutionary blink of an eye, much less a measly size centuries.
    We're not talking about evolutionary changes. This is about ecology; ecosystems can change greatly in mere decades. Sorry, your idea is horrible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzi View Post
    How is the predator in question foreign again?
    It hasn't existed in the region for 600+ years. The local ecosystem has moved on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeth View Post
    We're not talking about evolutionary changes. This is about ecology; ecosystems can change greatly in mere decades. Sorry, your idea is horrible.


    It hasn't existed in the region for 600+ years. The local ecosystem has moved on.
    Tell that to the wolves of Yellowstone, who were wiped out and brought back years later, causing profound ecological changes that benefited every member of the food chain, what is called a trophic cascade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Tell that to the wolves of Yellowstone, who were wiped out and brought back years later, causing profound ecological changes that benefited every member of the food chain, what is called a trophic cascade.

    ? Wolfs in Yellowstone was only about a 50 year gap from being hunted out to reintroduced. Your talking about animals that have been gone many hundreds of years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orange Joe View Post
    ? Wolfs in Yellowstone was only about a 50 year gap from being hunted out to reintroduced. Your talking about animals that have been gone many hundreds of years.
    Centuries is nothing in evolutionary time. 600 years or even a few thousand years ago we were still in the Holocene. Hell, muskox were extinct in Northern Eurasia for over a thousand years, only to be reintroduced to Scandinavia and Siberia, where they rebound and became reestablished in the ecosystem. Because muskox evolved alongside species like wolves, brown bears, reindeer and tundra foliage, just like how the Haast's eagle and moa evolved alongside kiwis, kakapos and every single endemic plant and animal species in New Zealand.

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    Yes! More giant animals! DO IT NOW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaeth View Post
    It hasn't existed in the region for 600+ years. The local ecosystem has moved on.
    If you mean "has been sustained by the constant need for human intervention to save it" then that is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atethecat View Post
    Haast's eagle was a species of giant eagle with a 8-9ft (2-3 meter) wingspan that went extinct in New Zealand around the year 1400. Like with a lot of island fauna (.i.e. dodo, elephant bird, moa) it's extinction was propogated by human settlers, Polynesians that hunted their primary prey—the moa—to extinction and probably hunted them as well.



    Assuming we ever can viable DNA samples, I think it would be great for some scientists to clone or genetically reconstruct them alongside moas. They would definitely help reduce the deer and boar populations on the islands.

    Besides...who wouldn't want to see a giant ass eagle flying through the skies of Middle Earth?

    wonder what kind of rub would be best with this to slow cook....

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