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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Draco-Onis View Post
    The new boy in charge of North Korea is not doing anything new and Trump isn't even doing anything new aside from behaving like a child on twitter. Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, what Trump has done by doing this summit is basically a huge mad gamble. His meeting that he agreed to without any negotiations gives Kim legitimacy on the world stage and North Korea has a long history of not following through with agreements.

    I am not being uptight I do think you have fallen on your head if you believe Kim has just suddenly changed his mind because of Trump but it could just be your blind love for him. The only thing that I agreed with on the Trump campaign was his view on foreign policy and he is failing miserably from gutting the state department to bombing Syria with no plan but hey I am sure you think he is doing awesome.

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    I was hit in the back of the head once with a pair of brass knuckles. lol. Was only a glancing blow, or I might not be typing this now.

    Trump has said recently he hopes the meeting is successful. but he is prepared to walk away if Kim is not willing to agree to some important conditions. We shall see. I personally hope it does result in a peace treaty which makes the countries involved feel safer. And yes, the world and I will give some credit to Trump if it does turn out that way.

    I think he is doing a great job with foreign policy. Not perfect, but no one is. You can continue to wallow in your hatred of him all you want however. And show it at the polls next time.
    The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” - Thomas Jefferson.

  2. #242
    I for one say let the Trumpers claim victory here. If it makes them FEEL better than whatever we can ignore the change in South Korea leadership last year that promised to engage North Korea rather then take a hard line like previous South Korean leaders. Ignoring facts to please Trumper FEELINGS is fine because it's better then them bottling this energy up and then shooting up our high schools/places of work/worship, etc...

  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Woods View Post
    I for one say let the Trumpers claim victory here. If it makes them FEEL better than whatever we can ignore the change in South Korea leadership last year that promised to engage North Korea rather then take a hard line like previous South Korean leaders. Ignoring facts to please Trumper FEELINGS is fine because it's better then them bottling this energy up and then shooting up our high schools/places of work/worship, etc...
    The only known for sure political shooting, was by a registered Democrat voter against some Republicans at a ball game. Besides, no treaty just yet. Celebrating now would be premature.
    The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” - Thomas Jefferson.

  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Yes, it is good news for the world. But the Trump haters will not give him any credit for it. But trade sanctions and a tough stance against NK , getting China to help pressure NK, has been the results of Trump's influence. I hope it does lead to what it looks like it might. It will be a another win notch for Trump.
    Trump didn't do anything, though...if anything it seemed like he was deliberately trying to escalate tensions with NK. China brokered this with South Korea's involvement.

    Actually now that I think about it, you might be right on some level--tensions with the globe and North Korea didn't de-escalate until Trump decided to start a trade war with China, which clearly pissed them off lol. So I suppose you can thank Trump for pissing off China to the point that they decided to steal Trump's thunder from him and handle negotiations themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy Woods View Post
    I for one say let the Trumpers claim victory here. If it makes them FEEL better than whatever we can ignore the change in South Korea leadership last year that promised to engage North Korea rather then take a hard line like previous South Korean leaders. Ignoring facts to please Trumper FEELINGS is fine because it's better then them bottling this energy up and then shooting up our high schools/places of work/worship, etc...
    No, I'm sorry we should not. We can give Trump credit for things he has actually done but this is not one of them.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Trump didn't do anything, though...if anything it seemed like he was deliberately trying to escalate tensions with NK. China brokered this with South Korea's involvement.

    Actually now that I think about it, you might be right on some level--tensions with the globe and North Korea didn't de-escalate until Trump decided to start a trade war with China, which clearly pissed them off lol. So I suppose you can thank Trump for pissing off China to the point that they decided to steal Trump's thunder from him and handle negotiations themselves.

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    No, I'm sorry we should not. We can give Trump credit for things he has actually done but this is not one of them.
    Whatever works to get it done. Which started with Trump's tough stance and the sanctions. Trump is involved in it or there would not be any meeting between Kim and him. :P

    Does not matter much if we here on MMO Champ give him credit. But the world will.
    The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that… it is their right and duty to be at all times armed.” - Thomas Jefferson.

  6. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    I think he is doing a great job with foreign policy. Not perfect, but no one is. You can continue to wallow in your hatred of him all you want however. And show it at the polls next time.
    I am sure it will the 100% approval rating Fox News gives him everyday, republicans should win by a landslide

    Again it is not hatred I actually agreed with him on foreign policy the fact that you too busy licking his boots to hold him accountable says a lot about you. I mean heck even the Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones of the world criticizing him sometime but not you worshipers.

  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    Whatever works to get it done. Which started with Trump's tough stance and the sanctions. Trump is involved in it or there would not be any meeting between Kim and him. :P

    Does not matter much if we here on MMO Champ give him credit. But the world will.
    This is adorable. Fox News is not the world you silly child.

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