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    NK says they will stop testing Nukes.

    So NK still has nukes and knows how to make nukes?

    Call me highly skeptical. I do hope this is a win for Trump as it would be a good thing if done properly.

    Trump will be known for making "some" progress for this and he should at-least get that merit, but to say How Influential he actually was in the negotiations too is unknown.


    North Korean supreme leader Kim Jong Un announced Friday that he no longer wants to test nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, reported South Korea's official Yonhap News Agency.
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    Trump? He shouldn't even be mentioned in any of this. He was more of an antagonist than anything else. Actually, scrap that part, because that might imply he intimidated NK to comply. He was an insufferable teen on hormones, yelling stupid shit that nobody appreciates or takes seriously.

    No, this is all Korea (and China?).
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    I suspect it has less to do with Trump and more to do with this:
    http://www.newsweek.com/north-korea-...-report-696878

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    Spoiler alert:

    They won't.

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    Trump did jack shit. The negotiations have been done between NK, SK, China, and Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaihiryuu View Post
    Trump did jack shit. The negotiations have been done between NK, SK, China, and Japan.
    I’m guessing this means Trump threat to leave talks in the summer, have been made moot...
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    Does NK even need to test nukes now that it has nukes? Asking for a friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kronik85 View Post
    Does NK even need to test nukes now that it has nukes? Asking for a friend.
    I don’t believe they have nukes. Last I heard is what someone posted above... their nuclear testing facility, collapsed on it self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t believe they have nukes. Last I heard is what someone posted above... their nuclear testing facility, collapsed on it self.
    That would imply they had stored all of their nukes in the testing facility. Somehow I doubt it.
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    NK says they will stop testing Nukes.
    Yeah and OJ said he was going to find the real killers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    That would imply they had stored all of their nukes in the testing facility. Somehow I doubt it.
    They photoshopped their naval forces, because they have so little. If this was Russia or Iran, I would have no doubt... but... they photoshopped tanks... that’s 4Chan level of military capabilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    They photoshopped their naval forces, because they have so little. If this was Russia or Iran, I would have no doubt... but... they photoshopped tanks... that’s 4Chan level of military capabilities.
    So you believe they only had couple prototypes that were in the facility? Maybe, but I wouldn't gamble on that. I think they have couple more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Souls View Post
    Yeah and OJ said he was going to find the real killers.
    Can you name a single person that you believe can do just that... with outmost accuracy... other than OJ? Yeah, I’m pretty sure he found the real killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    So you believe they only had couple prototypes that were in the facility? Maybe, but I wouldn't gamble on that. I think they have couple more.
    Think of it this way. What are they trading for all of the uranium, to occupy 2 to 3 nuclear programs? It’s possible... but, I think it’s as likely as the last NK leader getting a hole in one at every PGA golf course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    Think of it this way. What are they trading for all of the uranium, to occupy 2 to 3 nuclear programs? It’s possible... but, I think it’s as likely as the last NK leader getting a hole in one at every PGA golf course.
    I'm not suggesting they have multiple test facilities, I'm suggesting the possibility of them not having stored non prototypes there. Which would with the collapse leave them working models. How many? Probably not many, which might mean maybe they were dumb enough to store them there too. Who knows. Their nuclear tests did confirm from seismic readings that their nukes did work. No one knows whether they still fit their missiles, they claimed so last year I think it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaihiryuu View Post
    Trump did jack shit. The negotiations have been done between NK, SK, China, and Japan.
    And, again, there is a proven history of difference between "NK says they will denuke" and "NK actually denukes".

    At this point, nobody deserves credit. Trump should continue to draw criticism for threatening war via tweet and then firing all his diplomats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya View Post
    I don’t believe they have nukes. Last I heard is what someone posted above... their nuclear testing facility, collapsed on it self.
    I hadn't heard this. So your telling me that NK is so incompetent that it had nuclear capabilities and then lost them? That's where we are at now?

    I have no idea whlat to do with that. Is it sad, funny, a cause for jubilation? It's been such a year that I just dont even anymore.

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    I doubt very much that NK will stop testing related to its nuclear program.
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    Other tyrants who quit their nuclear program are all dead. Now that they have the bombs... They might actually be more open to diplomacy since they don't need to strongly fear an invasion. They certainly won't de-arm, but I'm not sure where the future is going to go.

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    Nothing short of a surrender will do for most of the US establisment. Any talks of anything less are considered a failure. Crazy. A peace treaty is a massive win.

    This has very little to do with Trump. Its the result of years of grassroots organizing and protests in S.Korea. President Jae-in and the candlelight movement etc.

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