Why blizzard didn't put in end of expansion zone wide nerfs in Antorus ?

[kamuimac]

Sitting bored in work i just wonder what theories have people here towards why no nerfs this time around - its the first time in years since they chosen not to do so.

my personal theory is that they are very happy with how wf/tf worked out and they see in their data that ton of people clear whole lower difficulties instead spend time wiping on higher one. (aka they spend time clearing normal on overgeared toons instead try to kill few bosses in hc )

What do you people think about it ? Why did they choose to pursue this way in legion instead do them like in WoLK-WoD period.

[Deleted]

Because the first 9 bosses in Antorus is already laughably easy and both Aggramar and Argus already received nerfs 2 weeks ago?

[nexellent]

because its a joke of a raid

[Jonsno]

because its a joke of a raid

link 11/11m pls

[Low Hanging Fruit]

Tell you the truth I think when 8.0 hits the squish is going to nut the whole thing way way down like what happened with SoO. So people will smoke it just without the achievement.. maybe..

[Coramen]

Probably because of the gradual nerf of people continually getting more powerful from AP, and the titan forging system allowing many of the fights to be "out geared".

While I'm not a part of the mythic raid scene now, if I remember correctly the last two expansions final raid tiers received nerfs through the players receiving more power rather than the bosses getting weaker through VP item upgrades.

[Morgaith]

Because blizzard is a joke these days and they mistakenly thought that ap, crucible, weekly gear and the trinkets would equal a flat 30% raid nerf. What actually happened was that since ap was capped (75 for nlc) long before the raid even opened on mythic it did next to nothing for player power. People also had full 960 gear after only a few mythic clears and this meant that the only realiable player power increase was the weekly boost to the trinkets and the number of trinkets that the raid had (to increase the uptime on the "synergy" proc. This all meant that the raid was the same after people maxed their trinkets and that player power did not have a way to improve outside of personal skill at playing the game. This was clearly a big oversight on blizzard's part but it was an expected one at that because remember, this is the same company that is removing masterloot and is scewing over the game on the BFA alpha/beta.

[JackWest]

Sitting bored in work i just wonder what theories have people here towards why no nerfs this time around - its the first time in years since they chosen not to do so.

my personal theory is that they are very happy with how wf/tf worked out and they see in their data that ton of people clear whole lower difficulties instead spend time wiping on higher one. (aka they spend time clearing normal on overgeared toons instead try to kill few bosses in hc )

What do you people think about it ? Why did they choose to pursue this way in legion instead do them like in WoLK-WoD period.

I think you are right about the TF. In the past TF was quite more, "limited". Thats why you see so many bad players on high ilvl now. Gonna try to keep it on topic though :P. That higher ilvl is what reduces the need for nerfs, as a lot of people keep growing in power, and its not like before where many were BiS(or BiS from HC if they dont do mythic) 2-3 months into the content and have reached the "power ceiling".

[kamuimac]

Because the first 9 bosses in Antorus is already laughably easy and both Aggramar and Argus already received nerfs 2 weeks ago?

you mean mythic - im not speaking about only mythic but all 3 modes .

it just seems strange that after so many years blizzard suddenly changed their minds about zone wide nerfing stuff.

[Tr1n1ty]

Zone wide nerf comes with 8.0 (aka prepatch) ...

[kamuimac]

Zone wide nerf comes with 8.0 (aka prepatch) ...

Possible but that's not what im talking i about . I mean first stacking buff im wolk then stacking debuff in cata and vp upgrades in mop and wod. This time around nothing like that happend . Why do you think Blizzard changed their end of expansion nerfs phylosphy

[Tyron]

Probably because wf/tf and the artifact infinite trait act as a progressive nerf.

[lummiuster]

Sitting bored in work i just wonder what theories have people here towards why no nerfs this time around - its the first time in years since they chosen not to do so.

my personal theory is that they are very happy with how wf/tf worked out and they see in their data that ton of people clear whole lower difficulties instead spend time wiping on higher one. (aka they spend time clearing normal on overgeared toons instead try to kill few bosses in hc )

What do you people think about it ? Why did they choose to pursue this way in legion instead do them like in WoLK-WoD period.

What does wf/tf stands for? "what fuck" and "the fuck"?

[Deleted]

What does wf/tf stands for? "what fuck" and "the fuck"?

war forged/titan forged

[kamuimac]

Probably because wf/tf and the artifact infinite trait act as a progressive nerf.

do they though ? how many people farm ap above 75 with how little ap you get vs how much you need? do you see everyone around runiing in full wf/tf gear ? since i for sure dont see people with gear like that everywhere around.

[JackWest]

do they though ? how many people farm ap above 75 with how little ap you get vs how much you need? do you see everyone around runiing in full wf/tf gear ? since i for sure dont see people with gear like that everywhere around.

You dont have to "farm" it. I play this dk since a week after antorus opened, only "farmed" til my MS became 75. After that I have only passively gotten AP and by now I have 82 frost, 80 blood and 75 unholy. Although, its such small % increase that I wouldnt even count it for "upgrade" or anything
And about TF, I think its mostly the "weekly cache" TF that makes a difference, as tons of people get "fed" 960+ gear from there while their raid equivalent gear would be around 945-950

[Spryte]

Doesn't need it, the first 9 bosses aren't too difficult and they nerfed Aggramar and Argus already.

[Deleted]

if you cant do antorus at this point maybe mythic just is not the place for you - this raid is easier than anything else.

[Argorwal]

if you cant do antorus at this point maybe mythic just is not the place for you - this raid is easier than anything else.

After 5 months, or exactly the same amount of time ToS was current, Antorus had a lower clear count than ToS at only about 800. And we had a lot of tears over how hard ToS was.

Blackhand and guldan had over 2000 kills for CE.

How again is Antorus so easy?

[Zequill]

The number of people here that think mythic is the only mode is too damn high...

For most people, Aggramar and Argus didn't got nerf. They are the same boss they killed 5 months ago.

If your friend and family guild have issue on a boss, they most be stuck here for ever. If you clear heroic without doing mythic, you runs as been rinse and repeat of the same since 5 months.