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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Tolkien refers to both war like Jews and Gypsy’s as inspirations for his races/culture, while Mabye not directly linked to Iran the country but the region is absolutely represented in the cultures of middle earth as well.

    The tree was just an easy example of a significant part of the lore of middle earth taken from the east but it’s not the only part.
    Right, and there are Mongolian-like descriptions of Easterlings and Middle Eastern/African-like descriptions for the people of Southron and Harad. These are direct references to what these people looked like. So it would be sensible to visually adapt them to look as they are described.

    How they dress, what they eat, what weapons they use and everything else about their culture that hasn't been explicitly described can be then creatively adapted to fill in the blanks. But representing them fully as a 'racially diverse' people wouldn't be filling in blanks, it'd be contrary to the descriptions we have that imply a certain look to them.

    For example, having a racially diverse depiction of Southrons is perfectly fine for any visual adaptation, but may not be considered faithful or sensible to the source material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    the adaptation
    Again I’m not talking about any adaption.

    I’m just talking about rather places other then Europe are Significant to middle earths lore and they are both on in regards to the world and the cultures in it.
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    I know they put the 80s sitcom edited in, but it's fit.

    They paid $1 billion for this shit and this is the best they could do. Like holy fuck.
    Just don't reply to me. Please. If you can help it.

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    They should have just used that first title teaser they did for the intro.

    If this is really the intro thats really sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausr View Post
    [video=youtube;lXuWnfnZmhA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXuWnfnZmhA[video]

    I know they put the 80s sitcom edited in, but it's fit.

    They paid $1 billion for this shit and this is the best they could do. Like holy fuck.
    Jesus Christ.

    How. How did this happen. They had 1 billion and the rights to one of the biggest most popular franchises. They could have any director, any cast, any writer. This show could've been anything. How did they end up with this? Is this some money laundry scheme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausr View Post


    I know they put the 80s sitcom edited in, but it's fit.

    They paid $1 billion for this shit and this is the best they could do. Like holy fuck.
    Is that really legit ? Not a meme or something like that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ausr View Post


    I know they put the 80s sitcom edited in, but it's fit.

    They paid $1 billion for this shit and this is the best they could do. Like holy fuck.
    Uh, yeah, ok that intro is just sad if it's the real deal. Big Bang Theory felt like they put more budget in theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Is that really legit ? Not a meme or something like that ?
    The music is changed but yeah...

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    Every trailer just keeps looking worse and worse as far as the style goes. That opening cinematic didn't take long to get memed on though. Good thing I started The Expanse yesterday, that show is actually great and if it is true that Amazon canned it for this pile of crap, that's a damn shame because it's actually been really good and I'm not even done season 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Specialka View Post
    Is that really legit ? Not a meme or something like that ?
    It's legit. It's already become a meme.
    Just don't reply to me. Please. If you can help it.

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    That's not the intro. It's some promo shit they did.

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    WARNING, THREAD UPDATE: With the premiere of this show tonight, we're going to end lots of this discussion which has taken over this thread. It's tiring and goes in circles, and, in many cases, entirely in bad faith.

    Do not post bad faith YT trash in this thread, whether it's from a YouTube channel with literally 4 subscribers (see above), or the Babylon Bee, a parody site engaged in culture war bullshit. This show is coming out tonight, and the time for these inane discussions of what a faithful adaptation is are done.

    Going forward, the discussion should be centered around what is actual shown in the aired media, which, again, is premiering tonight. And no, the existence of a black elf in a Tolkein adaptation is not permission to continue these previous discussions.

    Further continuation of these topics will be considered off-topic, derailing, and will be infracted.

  14. #3154
    Seen the first two episodes at the premiere already.

    The arguments about the casting will be moot when everyone sees how bland it is.

    A lot of the script and acting is just pretty bad.

    The second episode improves quite a bit though. They really should be showing the first two episodes, as the first might put a lot of people off returning on its own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    Not gunna lie for the first 30 seconds I thought this was legit. I just thought that they were pulling a Disney with that shitty cgi squirrel hoping so they could sell a cutesy toy.

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  17. #3157
    Quote Originally Posted by rogueMatthias View Post
    The second episode improves quite a bit though. They really should be showing the first two episodes, as the first might put a lot of people off returning on its own.
    Is that not the plan with the full release tonight? Is it not 2 episodes?

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    Still halfway into the first episode, and it's really not terrible. Only thing I'm bothered by so far--why is it that like 90% of the Elves are sporting trendy Millennial haircuts? It just feel so damn off and distracting. I feel like long, silky hair has always added to the ethereal characteristics of Tolkien Elves. Really wish they just went a more traditional direction for it.

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    Leagues ahead of WoT.

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    Only watched the first episode but so far Its pretty good with the only real negative being the funky Fight with the Snow troll.

    Really wish it showed more of the war with Morgoth though the eagle bit was a awesome opening for it.
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