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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    imagine giving a shit about reviews from random cunts on the internet
    Imagine giving a shit about reviews from people who are paid to give their opinion. There's zero incentive for them to be truthful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rennadrel View Post
    They also try very hard to be profound but it becomes pretty obvious that the writers have zero life experience nor the linguistic fortitude that Tolkien had to ever create profound dialogue. The writing overall is very stilted and so the acting suffers because of it. Sure, the CGI is nice, but that is the only thing it has going for it. The costumes look mediocre and the armor looks fake as hell. Makes me wonder where all the money in the budget went if it didn't go to paying off critics for positive reviews of mediocrity.
    The intro dialogue with the rock and the boat and what's up and down... oh boy.

  3. #3543
    If you really need someone's opinion to know if a show/movie will appeal to you do this:

    1) Find someone who likes the things you normally like. If they have good things to say about something you think is going to suck, give it a try.

    2) Find someone else who will normally praise things you dislike. If they sound unsure or worse about something, avoid it.



    Hearing the EFAP crew say they are cautiously optimistic about House of the Dragon? I'm giving it a shot even though I thought it was going to suck.

    Hearing Grace Randolph say Rings of Power sucked. That sure says a lot after the check they no doubt gave her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universalgirl View Post
    I utterly disrespect forced diversity or indoctrination.

    Amazon is pushing a ideology.

    Amazon Inclusion Policy

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    Higher roles on productions like directors, writers, and producers under Amazon Studios will need to meet a minimum of 30 percent of women and people within a marginalized racial or ethnic group. That number will rise to 50 percent by 2024. Casting an actor must match the identity of the character they will be playing.

    You hire now by race,ethnic group, and sexual identity.

    Amazon is also deciding now wich Review is good or bad faith

    Bet their Review Team has also a quota of

    90% 10/10(supporting ideology)
    5% 2-9/10(doesn’t care or mention ideology)
    5% 1/10 (against their ideology)
    racist or maybe bigot. at the least: triggered by diversity

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    Quote Originally Posted by s_bushido View Post
    I think they made an obvious reference with the way he was "talking" to the fireflies. But I think what happened in that scene is a pretty good indication that it's not going to be him.
    It has to be a Maiar. And if not him, then it has to be a new character, as it can't be anyone from the books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universalgirl View Post
    I utterly disrespect forced diversity or indoctrination.
    Its a made up universe where dark skin elves are not excluded, they just never came up in the lore. No such thing as "forced diversity" in that since, that statement is illogical. And if it really bothers you, just pretend the lore show and movies exist in a universe parallel to the books - since the movies aren't 1:1 adaptions anyway.


    Literally trying prove a point that doesn't exist. Not touching the stuff beyond the scope of the show, not sure why any of that applies to Middle-Earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Universalgirl View Post
    nonsense
    Just let me look.
    Wait a minute.
    Almost done.
    Let me see if I can find it.
    Something to give you.
    Found it!

    Oh, wait. I don't give a fuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hansworst View Post
    Just let me look.
    Wait a minute.
    Almost done.
    Let me see if I can find it.
    Something to give you.
    Found it!

    Oh, wait. I don't give a fuck.
    Go cry you in your pillows.

    I dont care about woke fanaticism and their supporters (ignore list hello)

  9. #3549
    Quote Originally Posted by Universalgirl View Post
    I utterly disrespect forced diversity or indoctrination.

    Amazon is pushing a ideology.

    Amazon Inclusion Policy

    Quote

    Higher roles on productions like directors, writers, and producers under Amazon Studios will need to meet a minimum of 30 percent of women and people within a marginalized racial or ethnic group. That number will rise to 50 percent by 2024. Casting an actor must match the identity of the character they will be playing.

    You hire now by race,ethnic group, and sexual identity.
    That isn't true, the policy you are quoting specifies that the first thing to consider is skill set.

  10. #3550
    Finished episode 2 today, and continues to have a few upsides and a lot of downsides.

    large note Details:
    -Okay in episode 1 it bothered me, now it is a large issue. This is supposed to be Tolkien, why the fuck does everyone have access to fast travel? Ep1 Galadriel and company fast travel from the ice back, then they get on the ship and travel the 400 miles to Valinor, and we get o time reference. In this episode we have Elrond going to Eregion instantly, then traveling to Khazad-dum instantly with Celebrimbor (while wearing the same outfits). All with no reference to how long it tooks, all with none of the traveling bits that make Tolkien's work, Tolkien.

    -Not to mention Elrond spends some amount of time in the contest (which was way over explained, show don't tell), before spending time with Durin IV, including having dinner, meanwhile Celebrimbor was just left outside the city?
    -Galadriel jumping into the sea at the entrance of Valinor is still a mindbogglingly dumb decision, that 99.9999% of the time would result in her dying.
    -Like others REALLY hope the wizard/meteor man isn't Gandalf, I wish it wasn't a wizard period, but if Gandalf, SO FUCKING BAD. I suspect they won't name him this season as they will try to acquire more rights from the Tolkien estate before answering who he is.
    -Dwarfs are largely well done, like the looks, Khazad-dum looked great minus a few shots that suffered from CGI abuse (namely the one on the bridge where Elrond was in, could tell with living beings in the CGI cut it was CGI)
    -That said a few of the accents of the dwarfs made me eye roll, but nothing outlandish and a minor nitpick.
    -The Harfoots continue to annoy me, between the accent they can't settle on, to the hair crap, to the badly designed props (they had a torch with the opening at the top where the handle is, thus making the heat rise to your hand which is holding it?)
    -The orc scene I enjoyed with Bronwyn and her son, though I did dislike how the orc looked, and how the scene ended. The orc looked too much like a pig and distracted me, and cutting of the scene it was like Bronwyn complains about "something" then perfectly time orc home invasion and she kills it with neither getting hurt while also perfectly cutting off its head to bring to the tavern? Like I get movie convenience, and in a better show I probably could overlook this, but it just felt so much like this happened in this order because plot demanded it not because it was a natural flow.
    -Another thread I am worried about, they mentioned the Simarils which was cool, then they have the Dwarf king hiding some precious treasure from the Elves. I hope it is mithril, but a small part of me is prepping for the Dwarfs to be holding a Simaril which would be another large lore fuck up.


    Final thoughts: Elves continue to be a large weak point for me, be it in dialogue, the ears/costumes, just about everything. Dislike Harfoots, humans are okay with hits and misses, while Dwarfs carry this episode from bad range to okay range. From a purely watching a fantasy show not by Tolkien standpoint I wouldn't say I hate the show, but I just feel 0 excitement/care for it, and unless some big moments turn me I will probably stop after episode 3 or 4 as I just can't find the will to watch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    That isn't true, the policy you are quoting specifies that the first thing to consider is skill set.

    Yes ofc

    The german woke institute isn’t true
    The Amazon quotas are also a lie
    All Ratings below 6 are racists
    Forced and mixed ethnic and races are good

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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    Finished episode 2 today, and continues to have a few upsides and a lot of downsides.

    large note Details:
    -Okay in episode 1 it bothered me, now it is a large issue. This is supposed to be Tolkien, why the fuck does everyone have access to fast travel? Ep1 Galadriel and company fast travel from the ice back, then they get on the ship and travel the 400 miles to Valinor, and we get o time reference. In this episode we have Elrond going to Eregion instantly, then traveling to Khazad-dum instantly with Celebrimbor (while wearing the same outfits). All with no reference to how long it tooks, all with none of the traveling bits that make Tolkien's work, Tolkien.

    -Not to mention Elrond spends some amount of time in the contest (which was way over explained, show don't tell), before spending time with Durin IV, including having dinner, meanwhile Celebrimbor was just left outside the city?
    -Galadriel jumping into the sea at the entrance of Valinor is still a mindbogglingly dumb decision, that 99.9999% of the time would result in her dying.
    -Like others REALLY hope the wizard/meteor man isn't Gandalf, I wish it wasn't a wizard period, but if Gandalf, SO FUCKING BAD. I suspect they won't name him this season as they will try to acquire more rights from the Tolkien estate before answering who he is.
    -Dwarfs are largely well done, like the looks, Khazad-dum looked great minus a few shots that suffered from CGI abuse (namely the one on the bridge where Elrond was in, could tell with living beings in the CGI cut it was CGI)
    -That said a few of the accents of the dwarfs made me eye roll, but nothing outlandish and a minor nitpick.
    -The Harfoots continue to annoy me, between the accent they can't settle on, to the hair crap, to the badly designed props (they had a torch with the opening at the top where the handle is, thus making the heat rise to your hand which is holding it?)
    -The orc scene I enjoyed with Bronwyn and her son, though I did dislike how the orc looked, and how the scene ended. The orc looked too much like a pig and distracted me, and cutting of the scene it was like Bronwyn complains about "something" then perfectly time orc home invasion and she kills it with neither getting hurt while also perfectly cutting off its head to bring to the tavern? Like I get movie convenience, and in a better show I probably could overlook this, but it just felt so much like this happened in this order because plot demanded it not because it was a natural flow.
    -Another thread I am worried about, they mentioned the Simarils which was cool, then they have the Dwarf king hiding some precious treasure from the Elves. I hope it is mithril, but a small part of me is prepping for the Dwarfs to be holding a Simaril which would be another large lore fuck up.


    Final thoughts: Elves continue to be a large weak point for me, be it in dialogue, the ears/costumes, just about everything. Dislike Harfoots, humans are okay with hits and misses, while Dwarfs carry this episode from bad range to okay range. From a purely watching a fantasy show not by Tolkien standpoint I wouldn't say I hate the show, but I just feel 0 excitement/care for it, and unless some big moments turn me I will probably stop after episode 3 or 4 as I just can't find the will to watch it.
    - Of course they did travel, the show did just cut the boring stuff out because nothing happened during their travels. Keep in mind Middle-Earth is free of Morgoth and Sauron right now and Orcs, Goblins and Dragons aren't everywhere.
    - Elrond did tell Celebrimbor that they would met again in their elven city. Celebrimbor just went home again.
    - I would have done the same as Galadriel in that moment tbh.
    - I also hope it's a blue wizard.

    For your last point, it's 99% mithril. They already showed it in the trailers and it makes sense as they need it to craft the front door we saw in FotR. Also mithril was the reason they awoke the Balrog.

  13. #3553
    Quote Originally Posted by Universalgirl View Post
    Yes ofc

    The german woke institute isn’t true
    The Amazon quotas are also a lie
    All Ratings below 6 are racists
    Forced and mixed ethnic and races are good
    It's easily found online, I mean you just had to read a little bit beyond the words that suit your agenda.

  14. #3554
    Did I miss a scene? How the hell did this bitch swim back to Middle-Earth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    Finished episode 2 today, and continues to have a few upsides and a lot of downsides.

    large note Details:
    -Okay in episode 1 it bothered me, now it is a large issue. This is supposed to be Tolkien, why the fuck does everyone have access to fast travel? Ep1 Galadriel and company fast travel from the ice back, then they get on the ship and travel the 400 miles to Valinor, and we get o time reference. In this episode we have Elrond going to Eregion instantly, then traveling to Khazad-dum instantly with Celebrimbor (while wearing the same outfits). All with no reference to how long it tooks, all with none of the traveling bits that make Tolkien's work, Tolkien.

    -Not to mention Elrond spends some amount of time in the contest (which was way over explained, show don't tell), before spending time with Durin IV, including having dinner, meanwhile Celebrimbor was just left outside the city?
    -Galadriel jumping into the sea at the entrance of Valinor is still a mindbogglingly dumb decision, that 99.9999% of the time would result in her dying.
    -Like others REALLY hope the wizard/meteor man isn't Gandalf, I wish it wasn't a wizard period, but if Gandalf, SO FUCKING BAD. I suspect they won't name him this season as they will try to acquire more rights from the Tolkien estate before answering who he is.
    -Dwarfs are largely well done, like the looks, Khazad-dum looked great minus a few shots that suffered from CGI abuse (namely the one on the bridge where Elrond was in, could tell with living beings in the CGI cut it was CGI)
    -That said a few of the accents of the dwarfs made me eye roll, but nothing outlandish and a minor nitpick.
    -The Harfoots continue to annoy me, between the accent they can't settle on, to the hair crap, to the badly designed props (they had a torch with the opening at the top where the handle is, thus making the heat rise to your hand which is holding it?)
    -The orc scene I enjoyed with Bronwyn and her son, though I did dislike how the orc looked, and how the scene ended. The orc looked too much like a pig and distracted me, and cutting of the scene it was like Bronwyn complains about "something" then perfectly time orc home invasion and she kills it with neither getting hurt while also perfectly cutting off its head to bring to the tavern? Like I get movie convenience, and in a better show I probably could overlook this, but it just felt so much like this happened in this order because plot demanded it not because it was a natural flow.
    -Another thread I am worried about, they mentioned the Simarils which was cool, then they have the Dwarf king hiding some precious treasure from the Elves. I hope it is mithril, but a small part of me is prepping for the Dwarfs to be holding a Simaril which would be another large lore fuck up.


    Final thoughts: Elves continue to be a large weak point for me, be it in dialogue, the ears/costumes, just about everything. Dislike Harfoots, humans are okay with hits and misses, while Dwarfs carry this episode from bad range to okay range. From a purely watching a fantasy show not by Tolkien standpoint I wouldn't say I hate the show, but I just feel 0 excitement/care for it, and unless some big moments turn me I will probably stop after episode 3 or 4 as I just can't find the will to watch it.
    The torch used fireflies, unless you're talking about a different one that used flames?

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  16. #3556
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Did I miss a scene? How the hell did this bitch swim back to Middle-Earth?
    Boats are overrated, if you have ptsd powering your bitch mood.

  17. #3557
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Did I miss a scene? How the hell did this bitch swim back to Middle-Earth?
    If she can travel for hundreds of years throught middle earth she could likely swim however many miles back to land and elves are known for other powers that could help.
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  18. #3558
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    - Of course they did travel, the show did just cut the boring stuff out because nothing happened during their travels. Keep in mind Middle-Earth is free of Morgoth and Sauron right now and Orcs, Goblins and Dragons aren't everywhere.
    - Elrond did tell Celebrimbor that they would met again in their elven city. Celebrimbor just went home again.
    - I would have done the same as Galadriel in that moment tbh.
    - I also hope it's a blue wizard.

    For your last point, it's 99% mithril. They already showed it in the trailers and it makes sense as they need it to craft the front door we saw in FotR. Also mithril was the reason they awoke the Balrog.
    -I mean one of the big things about LoTR is the traveling, and the interactions between people on a journey, having basically 0 showing of people journeying and literally people arriving at places 5 minutes later in the show (or in the case of Khazad-dum after showing a map marking the distance between the two) felt bad to me. Like some of the most iconic lines/moments in LoTR are from them traveling, like the 2nd breakfast scene, potatoes, etc.
    -I mean I guess, still felt awkward/dumb, makes Celebrimbor travel all the way there, then immediately tells him to go home. Like if I spend days traveling with you and you make me go home after you promise me help I would be rightly pissed.
    -...You would have jumped off a boat at least 400 miles from land? With no raft, supplies, nothing but a dagger? Like bro come on it was really fucking dumb. Not to mention the elves that apparently went along with the troops just to remove there armor right before Valinor? They couldn't have done that before they left? Are these helpers getting into Valinor too? It was a bad scene.
    -Agreed but part of me is hesitant with they have already done, not to mention waking the Balrog is another 3rd age happening I hope they don't shoe horn it in but considering trailers x to doubt.
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    Watched ep1 today, will see ep2 tomorrow.

    Alot better then I thought after reading some comments , enjoyed it. Only moment I found unnecessary was the sworddisplay fighting the troll. Other then that, solid start

  20. #3560
    Quote Originally Posted by Fencers View Post
    Did I miss a scene? How the hell did this bitch swim back to Middle-Earth?
    One of the worse segments, which is like most of the series so far, pure fan fiction.

    The Valar placed a ban on the rebelling Ñoldor who followed Fëanor to Middle-earth in pursuit of Morgoth and the Silmarils he stole. The ban came into effect after the Prophecy of the North was delivered as the Ñoldorin host traveled up through Araman, after it became known that Fëanor, with the support of a host led by Fingon, killed the people of Alqualondë to get their ships. The ban fell on the House of Fëanor, the House of Fingolfin, and those members of the House of Finarfin who did not repent their rebellion and turn back with Finarfin. During this time, the Valar hid Aman by meshing the sea around Tol Eressëa and Eldamar with a bewildering shadow and set the Enchanted Isles to ensnare any that set foot upon them. The ban ended after the War of Wrath when the Valar forgave the remaining Ñoldor. Of the leaders who had led the Noldor into exile only Galadriel chose to remain, having wed Celeborn.[1]
    While not confirmed, I hope that guy she met on that dreadful segment isn't going to become one more nail in the coffin for this series because I'm getting some vibes that he might become some kind of love interest. Time will tell.
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