Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Fortress of Arrogance]

You are the one trying so hard to hate something that is still good, it has been proven that both WoT and RoP are rated as a good series, your personal opinion doesnt change that simple fact.

by way of analogy, Megan Thee WAP is rated as a good singer, though IS she a good singer?

[Vonazak]

It's not a bad show, the only problem I have with it, is that elfs behave like humans, and Galadriel-the-human-warrior is too tiresome, she behaves like a 20yo and not like the thousand-years-experienced military leader she is.

[kenn9530]

As I pointed out in the wot thread, rhorle and kenn's arguments are similar to children's arguments. "I like this so anyone that agrees with me is right, valid, and factual."

Just toss the both on ignore.

You are presented with actual facts and data that proves a show to be good, but you ignore the actual data and claim your own opinion is the right answer, just because you dont like to be proven wrong time and time again.

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by way of analogy, Megan Thee WAP is rated as a good singer, though IS she a good singer?

If more ppl like something than hate it becomes good, its just that simple, you can feel free not to enjoy it but it can still be called good if enough ppl like it.

[Fortress of Arrogance]

If more ppl like something than hate it becomes good, its just that simple, you can feel free not to enjoy it but it can still be called good if enough ppl like it.

You didn't directly answer my question, though.
I'll use your explanation, then, and rephrase it:
If more people liked engaging in pedophilia than hated it, would pedophilia become good?

[rhorle]

though IS she a good singer?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Thee_Stallion

I don't think you are making the point you think you were making.

[Fortress of Arrogance]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Thee_Stallion

I don't think you are making the point you think you were making.

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...or am I?

[Gumble]

I guess that is proof that people will listen or watch crap as long as other people tell them its popular.............

There is a lesson there

[rhorle]

...or am I?

So awards are meaningless yet your subjective taste in music is the ultimate authority? Vulgar music has been good before so I'm not even sure you understand the point you are trying to make.

[Fortress of Arrogance]

So awards are meaningless yet your subjective taste in music is the ultimate authority? Vulgar music has been good before so I'm not even sure you understand the point you are trying to make.

None of what you said was even remotely implied by me, which begs the question of why you said that.
Though I think I know the answer.
I do not think I wish to continue this discussion with you.

[rhorle]

None of what you said was even remotely implied by me, which begs the question of why you said that.

Right. You have no point so don't want to continue. The singer you brought up is a good singer just not a singer you like. Isn't that the biggest thing people have distinguishing with this show? Subjective and not-subjective? This is entire tangent of the discussion is about people finding a way to dismiss ratings and reviews that don't line up with their subjective view of the show.

[Fortress of Arrogance]

Right. You have no point so don't want to continue. The singer you brought up is a good singer just not a singer you like. Isn't that the biggest thing people have distinguishing with this show? Subjective and not-subjective? This is entire tangent of the discussion is about people finding a way to dismiss ratings and reviews that don't line up with their subjective view of the show.

No.
I just don't want to.

[rhorle]

No. I just don't want to.

You continuing to reply indicates otherwise. You just have no argument anymore so you are playing silly games.

[Fortress of Arrogance]

You continuing to reply indicates otherwise. You just have no argument anymore so you are playing silly games.

No.
I just don't want to.

[Khaza-R]

It's not a bad show, the only problem I have with it, is that elfs behave like humans, and Galadriel-the-human-warrior is too tiresome, she behaves like a 20yo and not like the thousand-years-experienced military leader she is.

I just don't get why they didn't invent a new character if they wanted to pursue an angsty, young elf plot line. Just such a bizarre decision to think that massively changing a huge character in lore would be better received than adding an equivalent to a Tauriel

[kenn9530]

You didn't directly answer my question, though.
I'll use your explanation, then, and rephrase it:
If more people liked engaging in pedophilia than hated it, would pedophilia become good?

The few ppl on here complaining are not an authority on what is good or not, we have actual data showing more ppl like something than hate it so that makes the show good regardless of what a minority of ppl seem to think.

[BigToast]

worst thread ever. 0/10. no respect for Tolkien.

[eschatological]

I think there's a huge paranoia about critics being "bought and paid for" in this forum, not only in regards to cultural critics, but every facet of Western life. It rings hollow to me, it's the paranoia of conspiracy theorists who can't believe someone might just love tv and film so much to do it for near no money, and that they might have an expertise in how film and TV is made, and stories written.

They review thousands of film/shows, so obviously what they think of as "good" and "bad" is skewed.

I always compare it to literature. I know fellow nerds who think The Wheel of Time is the peak of literature. I, as an aspiring writer and avid reader, have read enough to know that that isn't true. Dostoevsky, to me, is the peak of literature. But to many people, Dostoevsky would be incomprehensible and perhaps even boring (a thought I can barely fathom). The same is true for people who only watch anime and think anime is the peak of television....and it's like, the best animated show ever, imo, isn't anime (it's BoJack Horseman, if you're curious).

[Berkilak]

I just don't get why they didn't invent a new character if they wanted to pursue an angsty, young elf plot line. Just such a bizarre decision to think that massively changing a huge character in lore would be better received than adding an equivalent to a Tauriel

Can someone explain to me why people think Galadriel is acting out of character?

Tolkien always said she was an arrogant, ambitious spitfire before she settled down in Lothlorien. Hell, she was still leaving Celeborn for centuries at a time to adventure. That's the whole reason that "passing" her test when Frodo offered her the One Ring was such a big deal. Young Galadriel would have taken it without question or hesitation. She proved that she had grown.

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Also, even if they deviate from the source material... that's still mission accomplished for Tolkien. His primary goal was to create a mythology. And any successful mythology is retold. And they diverge from the original telling in the retelling. Even Tolkien himself was constantly reinventing his stories, to the point where the most recent versions constantly contradict each other.

[Levelfive]

I think there's a huge paranoia about critics being "bought and paid for" in this forum, not only in regards to cultural critics, but every facet of Western life. It rings hollow to me, it's the paranoia of conspiracy theorists who can't believe someone might just love tv and film so much to do it for near no money, and that they might have an expertise in how film and TV is made, and stories written.

They review thousands of film/shows, so obviously what they think of as "good" and "bad" is skewed.

I always compare it to literature. I know fellow nerds who think The Wheel of Time is the peak of literature. I, as an aspiring writer and avid reader, have read enough to know that that isn't true. Dostoevsky, to me, is the peak of literature. But to many people, Dostoevsky would be incomprehensible and perhaps even boring (a thought I can barely fathom). The same is true for people who only watch anime and think anime is the peak of television....and it's like, the best animated show ever, imo, isn't anime (it's BoJack Horseman, if you're curious).

I mean, obviously it's Futurama, but otherwise agreed. Also, the argument generally that a show is empirically good or bad based on reviews is weird.

[Orby]

I always compare it to literature. I know fellow nerds who think The Wheel of Time is the peak of literature. I, as an aspiring writer and avid reader, have read enough to know that that isn't true. Dostoevsky, to me, is the peak of literature. But to many people, Dostoevsky would be incomprehensible and perhaps even boring (a thought I can barely fathom). The same is true for people who only watch anime and think anime is the peak of television....and it's like, the best animated show ever, imo, isn't anime (it's BoJack Horseman, if you're curious).

Everything said here is subjective, none of what you said is true, what is best is entirely subjective itself, there is no definitive best movie/book/song/art If someone wants to think Robert Jordan is 'peak literature' they can, you cannot just tell them they are wrong because you think differently... a lesson this forum needs to learn..