Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[BeepBoo]

I'm interested in seeing where the plot goes but god damn. I've never seen so many forced scenes that are invented just because I feel like the videographers were like "we want to shoot a scene with <insert situation here>!"

As well, the disbelief I get from the characters actions, because they're either braindead, inconsistent, or just mismatched is extremely high. This show might be worse than WOT. For all it's transgressions on the source material, obvious pandering, and really stupid characters, at least they were consistent in their personalities.

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Sad but true

I get the murder references, but is there some special meaning behind the reaper's portrayal? Or just a generalization on the target audience every bozo executive producer seems to be marketing to?

[rhorle]

Did you notice how every time an orc was going to attack an important character, he was just fucking unarmed? no weapons, just trying to grapple someone, like he also don't have teeth

That isn't true at all. There was an occasional orc without a weapon but it wasn't every time. There is no need to invent things just to continue to hate on the show.

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I get the murder references, but is there some special meaning behind the reaper's portrayal? Or just a generalization on the target audience every bozo executive producer seems to be marketing to?

It is the brainless, and unfounded, claim that "woke" kills things.

[Syegfryed]

That isn't true at all. There was an occasional orc without a weapon but it wasn't every time. There is no need to invent things just to continue to hate on the show..

Yep it is true, when they fight the protagonists they try to grapple, even when one had a dagger.

There is no need to invent because the episode show that

[BeepBoo]

It is the brainless, and unfounded, claim that "woke" kills things.

It's entirely possible that woke-ifying things does kill the versions of stuff people previously really liked, though, but it's also nearly impossible to tell if it's a chicken or the egg, or if bad writing and having a care about those things is completely unlinked, or what the impact of directives from higher-ups has on the quality of the show, etc.

[rhorle]

Yep it is true, when they fight the protagonists they try to grapple, even when one had a dagger. There is no need to invent because the episode show that

It isn't true for every time. I even did a casual skip through the episode and saw plenty of cases where Orcs were armed. You are over exaggerating because of your dislike for the show.

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It's entirely possible that woke-ifying things does kill the versions of stuff people previously really liked, though, but it's also nearly impossible to tell if it's a chicken or the egg, or if bad writing and having a care about those things is completely unlinked, or what the impact of directives from higher-ups has on the quality of the show, etc.

If people stop liking something just because it is more inclusive or shows diversity then that is one them. It is still a brainless take because "woke" is used for anything that shows women as powerful, non-normal skin tones, etc. The presence of black people on Rings of Power literally has no impact on the quality of the show. That is something that is labeled "woke". It is just a silly insult and it is even sillier to defend the use of it.

[BeepBoo]

You're going off on a tangent that has been beat to death. Also, I doubt anyone would call Alien or Aliens woke, so your "anything that shows women as powerful" goes out the window.

And again, it's really hard to separate all causation from correlation. I can easily envision where the reason the writing is bad is because these people are more concerned with other things, up to and including diversity, just as easily as I can envision one where the two are completely unrelated.

I digress.

Show keeps getting worse from a writing and consistency perspective, and I don't give a damn about black elves or Galadriel being a woman (she was always a woman and incredibly badass in the Silmarillion).

[rhorle]

You're going off on a tangent that has been beat to death.

Yet that is what "woke killed X" implies. It isn't a tangent but central to the meme.

[bledgor]

This is appropriate https://imgur.com/lyAIuwo

[Triceron]

This is appropriate https://imgur.com/lyAIuwo

Rofl, seems accurate.

Losing 2 ships didn't phase their numbers at all, they just stuffed the bottom.

[Syegfryed]

It isn't true for every time. I even did a casual skip through the episode and saw plenty of cases where Orcs were armed

I never said "orcs were not armed" i said "in the precise moments where orcs target special characters they were not armed"

as always, fallacies

[Kumorii]

Speaking of Orcs attacking main cast.
The orc that pulled arondir on the roof so they both roll down the house just stood up and walked off after they landed.

Perfect opportunity to kill him? Nah, my job is done as an extra so I just walk out of view.

[frn1]

Did Tolkien ever describe Elves going to the toilet ? If not, can we assume they do not need to go to the toilet ?

Thanks to Durin we know they do, but they think about it for a week or so.

[Syegfryed]

I still can't wrap my head of how this show makes you feel more sympathetic and care more about Adar than all the other protagonists, this is bogus.

Well, maybe they are just too good and we mere mortals can't understand this new writing age, villains are show as the good guys and good guys as morons

Speaking of Orcs attacking main cast.
The orc that pulled arondir on the roof so they both roll down the house just stood up and walked off after they landed.

Perfect opportunity to kill him? Nah, my job is done as an extra so I just walk out of view.

That reminded me of Book of Boba Fett, when Black chewbacca Woke up him so he could kill him,it was like "hey, wake up, you ahve to see me killing you" then he throw his across the room.

That you can even shove some lame headcnaon to say Black Chewbacca wanted to fight "fair', in RoP its just dum nonsense.

[DarkAmbient]

I still can't wrap my head of how this show makes you feel more sympathetic and care more about Adar than all the other protagonists, this is bogus.

Well, maybe they are just too good and we mere mortals can't understand this new writing age, villains are show as the good guys and good guys as morons

He's easily the best character in the show. Perfectly cast and very well acted, and his sympathy for the uruk make him uniquely interesting. I hope he remains part of the show for a good amount of time.

[s_bushido]

Speaking of Orcs attacking main cast.
The orc that pulled arondir on the roof so they both roll down the house just stood up and walked off after they landed.

Perfect opportunity to kill him? Nah, my job is done as an extra so I just walk out of view.

That's literally the first orc he killed after they both recovered from the fall. He landed in front of the camera, stands up and walks left as the camera moves to the right...enters frame back from the left and attacks Arondir. The whole time you can hear him panting until Arondir stabs him. That's what the elf is recovering from when he backs into the big orc.



I don't know why people insist on trying find flaws that simply aren't there...

[Kumorii]

That's literally the first "orc" he killed after they both recovered from the fall. He landed in front of the camera, stands up and walks left as the camera moves to the right...enters frame back from the left and attacks Arondir. The whole time you can hear him panting until Arondir stabs him. That's what the elf is recovering from when he backs into the big orc.

I don't know why people insist on trying find flaws that simply aren't there...

That's the orc that pulled him.
And you are correct, instead of attacking Arondir here as Arondir tries to recover. The Orc moves left for roughly 5 seconds before attacking.
So we agree.

You are correct though that he got killed by Arondir, I forgot about that. However, that wasn't exactly the point of the post.

My post is clearly talking about the Orc having a good opportunity in killing Arondir and he just decides to fuck off for 5 seconds before coming back. For no reason whatsoever except giving Arondir time. Which you recounted as the events as well.

I don't know why people insist on trying to justify clear flaws...

[s_bushido]

That's the orc that pulled him.

...that's the orc he stabs. You can see the same straps on his back from when he's tumbling down the roof.



The other orc, the one wearing a helmet that Arondir was fighting before the 2nd one hooked him off the roof, hits the ground and never gets up.

You're wrong. Deal with it.

[Syegfryed]

It is also dumb how that big orc just keep trashing Arondir around, for a good moments before the woman kills it, like, what the fuck dude, where is your goddamn weapon, this pretending to build up tension when there is none is just boring.

Two, they low-key tough abandoning that place to make a last stand in the shit ass village, and had the audacity to say it was a better position or that they had the advantage there, when they were in fact fucked, its just phenomenal absurd

And of course not-sauron ship with Galadriel, dear lord

But hey he might be the king of angmar but either way is fucked.

He's easily the best character in the show. Perfectly cast and very well acted, and his sympathy for the uruk make him uniquely interesting. I hope he remains part of the show for a good amount of time.

He is a good character and its sad that he his on the hands of bad writers(like when he flip flops about the orcs being his children, then his brothers and sisters, despite they not showing any female orcs there.

He could be so much more with competent people, he is truly unique, like, the show kinda imply he is one of the few orcs who were changed to be orcs, but jut half-way trough, or something like that, and had to "produce" more of him, some sad backstory and all

then you have our hero saying she will genocide all orcs just to make him feel pain, before kill it, just before preaching how revenge is bad and Hallbland should not do it, despite also revenge being her only motivation.

This show is trully something else, By now i think Sauron is going to be an amazing character and actually look like a good guy.

[Kumorii]

...that's the orc he stabs. You can see the same straps on his back from when he's tumbling down the roof.

The other orc, the one wearing a helmet that Arondir was fighting before the 2nd one hooked him off the roof, hits the ground and never gets up.

You're wrong. Deal with it.

What? I even pointed out that's the orc... It's the same orc we point out. I just took the picture after the fall when he moved away for 5 seconds before attacking...

We point out it's the same orc.
We point out the same exact events.

Only thing we differ, where I misremembered was that Arondir killed him. Which I clarified you were correct about but it also wasn't the flaw I was talking about... I talked about THIS ORC not killing Arondir when he had the chance and instead fucked off for 5 seconds before coming back.

Are you smoking?

[s_bushido]

Are you smoking?

I see. Instead of just admitting you were wrong and getting over it, you instead admit that you were wrong but have to salvage it with this "they both fell off a roof, but it's bad because they didn't instantly recover and start fighting again!!!" bullshit. /wanking motion

Couldn't take a moment to consider that maybe he was dazed/winded after hitting the ground? You know...since he was panting heavily? Or that he lost his weapon in the fall and had to go pick it up before attacking again?

No. Of course not. Because "the show's bad, so I'm going to be as uncharitable as possible about every little detail to make it seem even worse."

It's downright pathetic.

On second thought, I was wrong: It's fucking pathetic.