Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Veggie50]

Why would any of this be necessary? They literally have Galadriel in the Southlands by ep 6 and it's not like there needed to be an established Elven presence there to make sense of that happening.

1) He's a new character, there's nothing to recognize because he's completely unfamiliar to the franchise
2) Already got this with Galadriel's arc through Halbrand pointing out the map and route of the Orcs
3) This is not really played up after the first couple eps. Heck, the Southlanders are in awe of Galadriel's presence even.
4) We have Galadriel for that. Her scene with Adar was a fantastic moment in the show. Plenty of juxtaposition between them.

Yes, pointing at maps is an amazing tool to really make your audience feel what’s going on.

I am just happy you are not involved with the show… it would be the trainwreck some people here believe the show already is.

[Triceron]

Yes, pointing at maps is an amazing tool to really make your audience feel what’s going on.

Why would you need an Elven perspective to reveal the history of the Southlands? The Humans in the area already illustrated that quite well, like the Traitor dude talking to Theo about Sauron's return. Did you need Arondir holding your hand through the plot to figure that out?

[Orby]

Nerd of the Rings is actually quite positive and awesome to watch, none of this "woke agenda" bullshit. Are the other ones similiar to that?

Besides that, I also watch "Heavy Spoilers" and "Emergency Awesome" which also are on the fair spectrum of reviews, aswell as "New Rockstars" although I think they didn't put out a video about every episode yet.

Yea, you'd find them very much in the same vain. Same more critical than others but not critical in a toxic way. Broken Sword is very much similar to Nerd of the Rings, but British lol.

Daniel Greene is a fantasy booktuber who covers a lot of fantasy news in books, gaming and TV and well as other goofy stuff

Hello Future Me (his second channel I had linked) usually on his main channel is a video essayist of books, usually around 'how to write' type essays, from mental health writing or world building, stuff like that, his second channel I linked is mostly down to breakdowns of TV shows and other stuff, he's currently going through Rings of Power and House of the Dragon on there.

Don't watch Knights Watch though, they are very right leaning conservatives, and their complaints are very nit picky and constantly go on about 'woke agendas' and 'SJW's ruining our shows', while constantly repeating how bad the writing is, Imagine Angry Joe but 5 times worse lol. I am only watching them so I can understand what they are crying about. you can really tell when people on here wathc their channel becuase they repeat what they say nearly verbatim as if its their opinion :P

[Veggie50]

Why would you need an Elven perspective to reveal the history of the Southlands? The Humans in the area already illustrated that quite well, like the Traitor dude talking to Theo about Sauron's return. Did you need Arondir holding your hand through the plot to figure that out?

Ah yes… tell don’t show, a famous lesson.

[Triceron]

Ah yes… tell don’t show, a famous lesson.

I don't see you flipping your shit over how they handled Halbrand's backstory and motivation.

[Romanthony]

I cant believe the sure, Stupidity, of the last Episode. I mean sure, you can defend the show all you want, sure you can point out "Well its not breaking the lroe, its changing it"
Sure you ccan say what ever you want about the show.

But the end scene is stupid, Mount Doom erupting and Volconic ash washes over our heroes, who just shrug it off. because they very next Episode. Shows Galderial, as "Little dusty" Despite the fact this Ash is like 1500 F hot, I mean its the EXACT same thing that happened to Pompeii Im sorry but noone is walking away from that specially someone in full metal armour

[Veggie50]

I don't see you flipping your shit over how they handled Halbrand's backstory and motivation.

We don’t know jack shit about Halbrand at this point. Specifically because they chose to only tell, not show. Im curious to see how it develops, his origins are bound to be dark. I have him pegged for a nazgul myself.

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I cant believe the sure, Stupidity, of the last Episode. I mean sure, you can defend the show all you want, sure you can point out "Well its not breaking the lroe, its changing it"
Sure you ccan say what ever you want about the show.

But the end scene is stupid, Mount Doom erupting and Volconic ash washes over our heroes, who just shrug it off. because they very next Episode. Shows Galderial, as "Little dusty" Despite the fact this Ash is like 1500 F hot, I mean its the EXACT same thing that happened to Pompeii Im sorry but noone is walking away from that specially someone in full metal armour

Im curious how they’ll handle that yea.. perhaps this will be the first instance they show galadriel as a sorceress.

[Lady Atia]

We don’t know jack shit about Halbrand at this point. Specifically because they chose to only tell, not show. Im curious to see how it develops, his origins are bound to be dark. I have him pegged for a nazgul myself.

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Im curious how they’ll handle that yea.. perhaps this will be the first instance they show galadriel as a sorceress.

Halbrand is Sauron.

[Triceron]

We don’t know jack shit about Halbrand at this point. Specifically because they chose to only tell, not show. Im curious to see how it develops, his origins are bound to be dark. I have him pegged for a nazgul myself.

It's too bad you think less of the show because they didn't show Halbrand's backstory. Maybe you'll start enjoying it when they finally reveal his backstory to you with pictures instead of words.

[DarkAmbient]

I cant believe the sure, Stupidity, of the last Episode. I mean sure, you can defend the show all you want, sure you can point out "Well its not breaking the lroe, its changing it"
Sure you ccan say what ever you want about the show.

But the end scene is stupid, Mount Doom erupting and Volconic ash washes over our heroes, who just shrug it off. because they very next Episode. Shows Galderial, as "Little dusty" Despite the fact this Ash is like 1500 F hot, I mean its the EXACT same thing that happened to Pompeii Im sorry but noone is walking away from that specially someone in full metal armour

Yeah, I'm hoping the reason they all survive is going to make sense and won't be a major facepalm moment. It won't be anything Galadriel did because she just stood there. The only person present who might feasibly have the power to save them somehow could be Totally-Not-Sauron, but then why would he save them? Unless he really has been trying to turn a new leaf.

[Syegfryed]

Yes they killed her, since she’s not important to the rest of the story nor the movies….

tbf, they are not following the story anyway, neither is canon to the movies, they can kill her and follow someone else, it would be the same shit

[Triceron]

tbf, they are not following the story anyway, neither is canon to the movies, they can kill her and follow someone else, it would be the same shit

I wouldn't put it past them to give her the Gandalf treatment and make her Galadriel the White.

[Syegfryed]

Well as much as we don't want to admit it, there are a lot of people who generally enjoy the show and didn't care about the sword choreography maybe if you watch nothing but grifter youtube channels you would assume that the show is a flop and no one likes it.

Same way people don't care about the sword choreography they don't care about the story, the writing, the pacing, yada yada, saying some people don't care about does not mean many other people would not care, and even if you shut down your brain you can see something of bad quality.

The show IS a big flop, regardless of the youtubers, people can like bad stuff, you can enjoy certain aspects of it, or even the whole, besides their many, MANY flaws, but it's clear that rings of power is below average in every aspect you look at it besides CGI and Music. And this is unacceptable knowing the IP, the money put into it and the wipe they did.

People should not go easy on it

Luckily for me I watch a few reviewers of the show, and while its easily to flock to one point of view to feed the hivemind, its more healthy to catch a few opinions that differ and offer good and bad, instead of outragers painting with a broad brush with '(X) is bad so all is bad' attitude. And with that said no one I know thinks the show is a masterpiece or a great Tolkien adaptation. I think as an adaptations its failed, but that doesn't mean that you still cannot find things to like or enjoy. And its not my place to tell others they are wrong for liking it as much as me either.

Sure, as adaptation, failed, but first of, it failed as a good show or a good story. there is some medias that screw the original source but can still be fun/enjoyable, because the story ends up good or whatever, but RoP is not one of then, is not a good fantasy show, at all.

Making a comparison with House of the Dragon, a good fantasy show, but also a good story

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I wouldn't put it past them to give her the Gandalf treatment and make her Galadriel the White.

That would explain how she can turn from this insufferable moron and turn into the Galadriel from the movies/books, she has to die and be born again

[Orby]

Same way people don't care about the sword choreography they don't care about the story, the writing, the pacing, yada yada, saying some people don't care about does not mean many other people would not care, and even if you shut down your brain you can see something of bad quality.

The show IS a big flop, regardless of the youtubers, people can like bad stuff, you can enjoy certain aspects of it, or even the whole, besides their many, MANY flaws, but it's clear that rings of power is below average in every aspect you look at it besides CGI and Music. And this is unacceptable knowing the IP, the money put into it and the wipe they did.

People should not go easy on it



Sure, as adaptation, failed, but first of, it failed as a good show or a good story. there is some medias that screw the original source but can still be fun/enjoyable, because the story ends up good or whatever, but RoP is not one of then, is not a good fantasy show, at all.

Making a comparison with House of the Dragon, a good fantasy show, but also a good story

Never make a comparison to House of the Dragon. One is Grim Dark fantasy the other is, (well is supposed to be) classic fantasy.

Also some people may enjoy the story, some people might like some of the characters. Not everyone is a die hard Tolkien fan or may have ever read Tolkien or seen the other movies. I just think its disingenuous to literally hate every aspect of this show like its the worst thing ever. I have seen some bad shows, Rings of Power isn't the worst thing ever. At worst its a horrible adaptation, but at best, I suppose for some people its a fine slice of fantasy.

Taking from myself personally the show isn't great. Its 'fine' I guess. The dialogue consistency, the story and some of the characters are pretty weak, but there are some things that keep me interested, otherwise i would have stopped watching long ago. Also I like this a little more than Wheel of Time and the Halo series. I think at least by the end of this season (unless they really shit the bed), I might want to watch season 2. I have no interest in watching Season 2 of Wheel of Time after how that show went.

Playing devils advocate for the most part here.

[Kumorii]

Yeah, I'm hoping the reason they all survive is going to make sense and won't be a major facepalm moment. It won't be anything Galadriel did because she just stood there. The only person present who might feasibly have the power to save them somehow could be Totally-Not-Sauron, but then why would he save them? Unless he really has been trying to turn a new leaf.

They are not gonna explain it. What have been explained so far?

It's all about filling in the blanks ourselves.

[Xath]

Yea, you'd find them very much in the same vain. Same more critical than others but not critical in a toxic way. Broken Sword is very much similar to Nerd of the Rings, but British lol.

Daniel Greene is a fantasy booktuber who covers a lot of fantasy news in books, gaming and TV and well as other goofy stuff

Hello Future Me (his second channel I had linked) usually on his main channel is a video essayist of books, usually around 'how to write' type essays, from mental health writing or world building, stuff like that, his second channel I linked is mostly down to breakdowns of TV shows and other stuff, he's currently going through Rings of Power and House of the Dragon on there.

Don't watch Knights Watch though, they are very right leaning conservatives, and their complaints are very nit picky and constantly go on about 'woke agendas' and 'SJW's ruining our shows', while constantly repeating how bad the writing is, Imagine Angry Joe but 5 times worse lol. I am only watching them so I can understand what they are crying about. you can really tell when people on here wathc their channel becuase they repeat what they say nearly verbatim as if its their opinion :P

Daniel Greene is an apologist for trash adaptations he's the last person to watch as an authority on series because he will straight up boost terrible adaptations if they give him clout. He gets "not bribes" like being flown out for premieres and meeting the cast. It's nearly impossible to objective about shows when you get benefits like that because of relentlessly pumping even the crappiest of adapts. It's like expecting Taliesin and Evitel to actually be objective when it comes to blizz games when their livlihood depends on getting into alphas and betas to push out content.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I cant believe the sure, Stupidity, of the last Episode. I mean sure, you can defend the show all you want, sure you can point out "Well its not breaking the lroe, its changing it"
Sure you ccan say what ever you want about the show.

But the end scene is stupid, Mount Doom erupting and Volconic ash washes over our heroes, who just shrug it off. because they very next Episode. Shows Galderial, as "Little dusty" Despite the fact this Ash is like 1500 F hot, I mean its the EXACT same thing that happened to Pompeii Im sorry but noone is walking away from that specially someone in full metal armour

I don’t think Lotr cares much about the reality’s of volcanoes, if it did Sam and Frodo would have never gotten off mount doom, even destroying the ring might have been impossible from the heat/fumes.

[Syegfryed]

Never make a comparison to House of the Dragon. One is Grim Dark fantasy the other is, (well is supposed to be) classic fantasy.

Quality is beyond genre, one is well written and have better acting, the other is garbage writing and bad acting.

Also some people may enjoy the story, some people might like some of the characters. Not everyone is a die hard Tolkien fan or may have ever read Tolkien or seen the other movies. I just think its disingenuous to literally hate every aspect of this show like its the worst thing ever. I have seen some bad shows, Rings of Power isn't the worst thing ever. At worst its a horrible adaptation, but at best, I suppose for some people its a fine slice of fantasy.

Like i said, even for people who don't like/hate Tolkien, you know its a bad show, because of quality.

If "every aspect" is bad, is not people hating is people showing the truth. If this was a shit tv show from netflix, maybe people would not be too harsh, but they had the budget, they had the ip, there is no excuse for this to be so bad

[Askyl]

Quality is beyond genre, one is well written and have better acting, the other is garbage writing and bad acting.



Like i said, even for people who don't like/hate Tolkien, you know its a bad show, because of quality.

If "every aspect" is bad, is not people hating is people showing the truth. If this was a shit tv show from netflix, maybe people would not be too harsh, but they had the budget, they had the ip, there is no excuse for this to be so bad

With that logic the show is fantastic though. "Every aspect"

Visuals 10/10
Music 10/10
Dialogue is the drop, sometimes it's a 6/10 sometimes 10/10, giving it a 7.5/10

Story is hard to put a score atm since there are still 2 episodes left and EP6 proved all the nutjobs saying nothing made sense wrong. So far for me it's a solid 8.5/10 and most likely going higher.

People saying writing is bad and give examples and say "lmao how and why" and both those questions are explained in the show. Not sure if people actually watch it or just look at ragebait videos and complain thinking they're right.

If you complain about this show being bad it's simply because you joined the bandwagon of hate and wanted it to be bad in the first place, or wanted the prodoucers to tailor the show to suit your exact needs. Which are both hilariously riddiculus. The show is fantastic.

Even with INSANE review bombing it's almost at a 7/10. Explain to me how you think the majority of people think this show is bad?

Best regards,

One of the most nerdy Tolkien nerds EU.

[Syegfryed]

With that logic the show is fantastic though. "Every aspect"

Like i said, every aspect but music and CGI, and even the music sometimes does not mix well with the scene.

Dialogue is the drop, sometimes it's a 6/10 sometimes 10/10, giving it a 7.5/10

Dialogue is a hard 5 that drops to 2 or 3 real quickly.

Story is hard to put a score atm since there are still 2 episodes left and EP6 proved all the nutjobs saying nothing made sense wrong. So far for me it's a solid 8.5/10 and most likely going higher.

How? shit still don't make sense, EP06 showed hey are going deeper with the BS and nonsense.

If you complain about this show being bad it's simply because you joined the bandwagon

No, i complain because is genuinely bad, you are no g going to put the blame on something else

Best regards,

One of the most nerdy Tolkien nerds EU.

Another one of those super fans? like the ones amazon put to hype the series? that explain how someone can give a 8,5 in this dumpster fire. But for each their own;